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[law4vus]

The other day I was at the grocery store and saw a guy with a "Thomas M. Cooley Alumni" shirt. He was using food stamps.

Tell your friend she's a bloody fool and to do something else with her life if she's not willing to retake.

[PiersonVee]

Cooley is okay if you plan on starting your own practice. Seriously, I know someone that graduated summa from Cooley, and she could not find a job.

[zanda]

YEAH YOU AWFUL BIGOT HOW DARE YOU IMPLY THAT THE MAJORITY OF WOMEN ARE HETEROSEXUAL SIMPLY BECAUSE THE MAJORITY OF WOMEN ARE HETEROSEXUAL!!

I think it's pretty clear that the post wasn't meant to discredit notion that the majority of women are heterosexual. It simply attacked the implied idea that it'd be nonsensical to suggest OP was interested in women because she's a woman herself.

Don't capslock the strawman, it's bad practice.

TITCR.

wow. kid got worked.

[gothamm]

The other day I was at the grocery store and saw a guy with a "Thomas M. Cooley Alumni" shirt. He was using food stamps.

Tell your friend she's a bloody fool and to do something else with her life if she's not willing to retake.

This is stupid. Do you have any idea how many chicks he must get rocking a TC alumn shirt?

[law4vus]

The other day I was at the grocery store and saw a guy with a "Thomas M. Cooley Alumni" shirt. He was using food stamps.

Tell your friend she's a bloody fool and to do something else with her life if she's not willing to retake.

This is stupid. Do you have any idea how many chicks he must get rocking a TC alumn shirt?

You know, I never thought of that. He was probably modest though and told them it was only ranked 5 in the country. Chicks did modesty.

[Andrzej]

if it ranked #5 in all of U.S.A than it is clearly a fine instititution of law. I will go.

[minnesotasam]

YEAH YOU AWFUL BIGOT HOW DARE YOU IMPLY THAT THE MAJORITY OF WOMEN ARE HETEROSEXUAL SIMPLY BECAUSE THE MAJORITY OF WOMEN ARE HETEROSEXUAL!!

I think it's pretty clear that the post wasn't meant to discredit notion that the majority of women are heterosexual. It simply attacked the implied idea that it'd be nonsensical to suggest OP was interested in women because she's a woman herself.

Don't capslock the strawman, it's bad practice.

TITCR.

wow. kid got worked.

Reading: how does it work?

[Total Litigator]

I would say just have your friend read this thread. But she will probably only actual absorb the following post:

Cooley if she wants to explore business applications to the law and wind up in Biglaw, Hamline if she's looking for a better LRAP and more traditional academic training.

and go hmm, interesting, now I have a decision to make.

[Verity]

I would say just have your friend read this thread. But she will probably only actual absorb the following post:

Cooley if she wants to explore business applications to the law and wind up in Biglaw, Hamline if she's looking for a better LRAP and more traditional academic training.

and go hmm, interesting, now I have a decision to make.

ROFL, yes, yes, TITCR!


In truth, I think she'd read this thread and be like, "Girl, whatch you think, I'm STUPID???"

[2014]

I'm confident I could pull off a 138 while blacked out drunk.

[northwood]

I'm confident I could pull off a 138 while blacked out drunk.

only one way to prove it

[Fred_McGriff]

Dude, you were so wasted last night, you blacked out, went to a local college, took the LSAT and got a 140.

[aspire2more]

I am very good friends with a Cooley Law alum. She's not successful in the sense that your friend is thinking, but she's happy. Her specialty is highly marketable right now in the non-profit/public interest realm, which she enjoys working in because it allows her to have the whole husband-baby-house package on top of her career. Is she going to rake in six-figures every year (not including her husband's salary)? Of course not. She's not in private practice or a big organization with room to move way up the ladder. But her office pays her the same as the other newer attorneys and she's definitely not on food stamps or destitute. Her baby will be in the same financial position I was when I grew up - far from the top of the so-called middle class, but still comfortably above a paycheck-to-paycheck existence.

I'm not saying that going to Cooley is a great career choice for prospective attorneys. For a lot of people, even if they do make it out of there with a degree (instead of being asked to leave early), Cooley is just not worth the debt and the three years of time they could spend studying something else, saving money, or improving their LSAT score. I'm just saying that Cooley is not going to necessarily be THE END OF THE WORLD OMGZ!!!! for your friend if she decides to go.

Instead, your friend has deeper problems, that my friend did not have:

1. Your friend bombed the LSAT. Bombed it. In fact, there is a really good chance she won't get in to these schools and this discussion will be completely irrelevant.

2. Your friend has unrealistic expectations. My friend is not a millionaire. I have other friends who have bachelor's degrees (but no advanced degrees) and they make more than she does. If she wants to become rich, she is going about it the wrong way.

3. Your friend hasn't thought this through. Does she have significant work experience? Any legal-related experience? Has she picked the brains of any actual attorneys (esp. those who graduated from her "reach" schools)? Or is she basing her decision off of Law and Order reruns?

Really, the only thing you can do as a friend is warn her. Make sure to explain how much of a difference taking time off (not a cycle, but years), scoring ~300% better on the LSAT, and determining whether or not she actually wants a J.D. can mean for her future happiness. If she doesn't listen, don't worry about it. You care about this person, sure. But she has to live her own life, just like you have to live yours. Be kind and be a friend (no matter what ultimately happens) and at the end of the day, you've done the right thing.

[Verity]

I am very good friends with a Cooley Law alum. She's not successful in the sense that your friend is thinking, but she's happy. Her specialty is highly marketable right now in the non-profit/public interest realm, which she enjoys working in because it allows her to have the whole husband-baby-house package on top of her career. Is she going to rake in six-figures every year (not including her husband's salary)? Of course not. She's not in private practice or a big organization with room to move way up the ladder. But her office pays her the same as the other newer attorneys and she's definitely not on food stamps or destitute. Her baby will be in the same financial position I was when I grew up - far from the top of the so-called middle class, but still comfortably above a paycheck-to-paycheck existence.

I'm not saying that going to Cooley is a great career choice for prospective attorneys. For a lot of people, even if they do make it out of there with a degree (instead of being asked to leave early), Cooley is just not worth the debt and the three years of time they could spend studying something else, saving money, or improving their LSAT score. I'm just saying that Cooley is not going to necessarily be THE END OF THE WORLD OMGZ!!!! for your friend if she decides to go.

Instead, your friend has deeper problems, that my friend did not have:

1. Your friend bombed the LSAT. Bombed it. In fact, there is a really good chance she won't get in to these schools and this discussion will be completely irrelevant.

2. Your friend has unrealistic expectations. My friend is not a millionaire. I have other friends who have bachelor's degrees (but no advanced degrees) and they make more than she does. If she wants to become rich, she is going about it the wrong way.

3. Your friend hasn't thought this through. Does she have significant work experience? Any legal-related experience? Has she picked the brains of any actual attorneys (esp. those who graduated from her "reach" schools)? Or is she basing her decision off of Law and Order reruns?

Really, the only thing you can do as a friend is warn her. Make sure to explain how much of a difference taking time off (not a cycle, but years), scoring ~300% better on the LSAT, and determining whether or not she actually wants a J.D. can mean for her future happiness. If she doesn't listen, don't worry about it. You care about this person, sure. But she has to live her own life, just like you have to live yours. Be kind and be a friend (no matter what ultimately happens) and at the end of the day, you've done the right thing.

Thanks. I actually had a talk with her recently and she flipped out, and was like "you just think you're so much better than me," and called me a "hater" a few times. So, I'm just throwing in the towel. It will probably fizzle out, like that one time she seriously wanted to be a rapper. The only real work experience she has is working at CVS. I feel like a true shit for being this negative about her future, but she needs to grow up.

Would've liked to read some of her future briefs though...

[stratocophic]

I am very good friends with a Cooley Law alum. She's not successful in the sense that your friend is thinking, but she's happy. Her specialty is highly marketable right now in the non-profit/public interest realm, which she enjoys working in because it allows her to have the whole husband-baby-house package on top of her career. Is she going to rake in six-figures every year (not including her husband's salary)? Of course not. She's not in private practice or a big organization with room to move way up the ladder. But her office pays her the same as the other newer attorneys and she's definitely not on food stamps or destitute. Her baby will be in the same financial position I was when I grew up - far from the top of the so-called middle class, but still comfortably above a paycheck-to-paycheck existence.

I'm not saying that going to Cooley is a great career choice for prospective attorneys. For a lot of people, even if they do make it out of there with a degree (instead of being asked to leave early), Cooley is just not worth the debt and the three years of time they could spend studying something else, saving money, or improving their LSAT score. I'm just saying that Cooley is not going to necessarily be THE END OF THE WORLD OMGZ!!!! for your friend if she decides to go.

Instead, your friend has deeper problems, that my friend did not have:

1. Your friend bombed the LSAT. Bombed it. In fact, there is a really good chance she won't get in to these schools and this discussion will be completely irrelevant.

2. Your friend has unrealistic expectations. My friend is not a millionaire. I have other friends who have bachelor's degrees (but no advanced degrees) and they make more than she does. If she wants to become rich, she is going about it the wrong way.

3. Your friend hasn't thought this through. Does she have significant work experience? Any legal-related experience? Has she picked the brains of any actual attorneys (esp. those who graduated from her "reach" schools)? Or is she basing her decision off of Law and Order reruns?

Really, the only thing you can do as a friend is warn her. Make sure to explain how much of a difference taking time off (not a cycle, but years), scoring ~300% better on the LSAT, and determining whether or not she actually wants a J.D. can mean for her future happiness. If she doesn't listen, don't worry about it. You care about this person, sure. But she has to live her own life, just like you have to live yours. Be kind and be a friend (no matter what ultimately happens) and at the end of the day, you've done the right thing.

Thanks. I actually had a talk with her recently and she flipped out, and was like "you just think you're so much better than me," and called me a "hater" a few times. So, I'm just throwing in the towel. It will probably fizzle out, like that one time she seriously wanted to be a rapper. The only real work experience she has is working at CVS. I feel like a true shit for being this negative about her future, but she needs to grow up.

Would've liked to read some of her future briefs though...

Should've requested that she direct her attention to the



Also, a rapper? Hilarious

[emmbar53]

I am very good friends with a Cooley Law alum. She's not successful in the sense that your friend is thinking, but she's happy. Her specialty is highly marketable right now in the non-profit/public interest realm, which she enjoys working in because it allows her to have the whole husband-baby-house package on top of her career. Is she going to rake in six-figures every year (not including her husband's salary)? Of course not. She's not in private practice or a big organization with room to move way up the ladder. But her office pays her the same as the other newer attorneys and she's definitely not on food stamps or destitute. Her baby will be in the same financial position I was when I grew up - far from the top of the so-called middle class, but still comfortably above a paycheck-to-paycheck existence.

I'm not saying that going to Cooley is a great career choice for prospective attorneys. For a lot of people, even if they do make it out of there with a degree (instead of being asked to leave early), Cooley is just not worth the debt and the three years of time they could spend studying something else, saving money, or improving their LSAT score. I'm just saying that Cooley is not going to necessarily be THE END OF THE WORLD OMGZ!!!! for your friend if she decides to go.

Instead, your friend has deeper problems, that my friend did not have:

1. Your friend bombed the LSAT. Bombed it. In fact, there is a really good chance she won't get in to these schools and this discussion will be completely irrelevant.

2. Your friend has unrealistic expectations. My friend is not a millionaire. I have other friends who have bachelor's degrees (but no advanced degrees) and they make more than she does. If she wants to become rich, she is going about it the wrong way.

3. Your friend hasn't thought this through. Does she have significant work experience? Any legal-related experience? Has she picked the brains of any actual attorneys (esp. those who graduated from her "reach" schools)? Or is she basing her decision off of Law and Order reruns?

Really, the only thing you can do as a friend is warn her. Make sure to explain how much of a difference taking time off (not a cycle, but years), scoring ~300% better on the LSAT, and determining whether or not she actually wants a J.D. can mean for her future happiness. If she doesn't listen, don't worry about it. You care about this person, sure. But she has to live her own life, just like you have to live yours. Be kind and be a friend (no matter what ultimately happens) and at the end of the day, you've done the right thing.

Thanks. I actually had a talk with her recently and she flipped out, and was like "you just think you're so much better than me," and called me a "hater" a few times. So, I'm just throwing in the towel. It will probably fizzle out, like that one time she seriously wanted to be a rapper. The only real work experience she has is working at CVS. I feel like a true shit for being this negative about her future, but she needs to grow up.

Would've liked to read some of her future briefs though...

Should've requested that she direct her attention to the



Also, a rapper? Hilarious

Don't laugh. I am considering a dual degree with Michigan's JD+Lyrical Engineering Program.

[stratocophic]

I am very good friends with a Cooley Law alum. She's not successful in the sense that your friend is thinking, but she's happy. Her specialty is highly marketable right now in the non-profit/public interest realm, which she enjoys working in because it allows her to have the whole husband-baby-house package on top of her career. Is she going to rake in six-figures every year (not including her husband's salary)? Of course not. She's not in private practice or a big organization with room to move way up the ladder. But her office pays her the same as the other newer attorneys and she's definitely not on food stamps or destitute. Her baby will be in the same financial position I was when I grew up - far from the top of the so-called middle class, but still comfortably above a paycheck-to-paycheck existence.

I'm not saying that going to Cooley is a great career choice for prospective attorneys. For a lot of people, even if they do make it out of there with a degree (instead of being asked to leave early), Cooley is just not worth the debt and the three years of time they could spend studying something else, saving money, or improving their LSAT score. I'm just saying that Cooley is not going to necessarily be THE END OF THE WORLD OMGZ!!!! for your friend if she decides to go.

Instead, your friend has deeper problems, that my friend did not have:

1. Your friend bombed the LSAT. Bombed it. In fact, there is a really good chance she won't get in to these schools and this discussion will be completely irrelevant.

2. Your friend has unrealistic expectations. My friend is not a millionaire. I have other friends who have bachelor's degrees (but no advanced degrees) and they make more than she does. If she wants to become rich, she is going about it the wrong way.

3. Your friend hasn't thought this through. Does she have significant work experience? Any legal-related experience? Has she picked the brains of any actual attorneys (esp. those who graduated from her "reach" schools)? Or is she basing her decision off of Law and Order reruns?

Really, the only thing you can do as a friend is warn her. Make sure to explain how much of a difference taking time off (not a cycle, but years), scoring ~300% better on the LSAT, and determining whether or not she actually wants a J.D. can mean for her future happiness. If she doesn't listen, don't worry about it. You care about this person, sure. But she has to live her own life, just like you have to live yours. Be kind and be a friend (no matter what ultimately happens) and at the end of the day, you've done the right thing.

Thanks. I actually had a talk with her recently and she flipped out, and was like "you just think you're so much better than me," and called me a "hater" a few times. So, I'm just throwing in the towel. It will probably fizzle out, like that one time she seriously wanted to be a rapper. The only real work experience she has is working at CVS. I feel like a true shit for being this negative about her future, but she needs to grow up.

Would've liked to read some of her future briefs though...

Should've requested that she direct her attention to the



Also, a rapper? Hilarious

Don't laugh. I am considering a dual degree with Michigan's JD+Lyrical Engineering Program.

See now that's different, dropping a rhyme in oral argument and taking your opponent's position apart in rhythm is a completely different kettle of fish from the undiscovered --> international superstar dream

[Eponymous]

Thanks. I actually had a talk with her recently and she flipped out, and was like "you just think you're so much better than me," and called me a "hater" a few times. Would've liked to read some of her future briefs though...[/quote]

"Hater" is a relatively new iteration of a perfectly good word. However, in its newest incarnation, "hater" is used by the lazy/unintelligent/disorganized/dysfunctional/chaotic among us, and its meaning is roughly equivalent to : "annoying bearer of rational, fact-based analysis who is trying to pull me out of my warm bath of happy delusion and baseless self-esteem"

[alexonfyre]

"Hater" is a relatively new iteration of a perfectly good word. However, in its newest incarnation, "hater" is used by the lazy/unintelligent/disorganized/dysfunctional/chaotic among us, and its meaning is roughly equivalent to : "annoying bearer of rational, fact-based analysis who is trying to pull me out of my warm bath of happy delusion and baseless self-esteem"

wtf are you talking about, and why did you bump a 4 day old thread with this?

[emjay]

Definitely Hamline. Also, good luck to your "friend" OP,

[Linksys]

138 what the fuck?

[Easy-E]

"Hater" is a relatively new iteration of a perfectly good word. However, in its newest incarnation, "hater" is used by the lazy/unintelligent/disorganized/dysfunctional/chaotic among us, and its meaning is roughly equivalent to : "annoying bearer of rational, fact-based analysis who is trying to pull me out of my warm bath of happy delusion and baseless self-esteem"

I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

[ahduth]

BTW, your friend's logical thinking skills are probably more at fault here than your advocacy skills. You can't convince someone of anything if they aren't capable of comprehending your argument. It's like trying to explain tides to Bill O'Reilly.

[Verity]

Just thought I'd bump this thread to update that this girl was rejected at both.

What did she learn? Nothing. She keeps blaming me for my "negativity," and also cites her late applications as the reason why she was rejected.

She is determined to get HLS next cycle. She's toying with the idea of a retake.

Her fucking scumbag, weirdo boyfriend keeps pushing her to become a lawyer, because the idiot thinks it will make her rich, and he'll be able to freeload for life. He also wanted her to become a rapper, when that was her fad.

Her father is never home, and her mother is a space cadet with no education, ambition, or helpful advice.

She's currently working at K-Mart. She makes less than $250/week. She gets into fights with her co-workers. She's basically on K-Mart probation.

She keeps injecting inapt legalese when we're talking. "Do you like this dress?" "SUSTAINED!"

What the fuck?

[rinkrat19]

Just thought I'd bump this thread to update that this girl was rejected at both.

What did she learn? Nothing. She keeps blaming me for my "negativity," and also cites her late applications as the reason why she was rejected.

She is determined to get HLS next cycle. She's toying with the idea of a retake.

Her fucking scumbag, weirdo boyfriend keeps pushing her to become a lawyer, because the idiot thinks it will make her rich, and he'll be able to freeload for life. He also wanted her to become a rapper, when that was her fad.

Her father is never home, and her mother is a space cadet with no education, ambition, or helpful advice.

She's currently working at K-Mart. She makes less than $250/week. She gets into fights with her co-workers. She's basically on K-Mart probation.

She keeps injecting inapt legalese when we're talking. "Do you like this dress?" "SUSTAINED!"

What the fuck?

The situation is just sort of sad, but the 'SUSTAINED!' made me lol