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Best schools for extreme splitters?

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 9:12 pm
by dpk711
So while I'm a splitter myself (3.5/172) because I have already been accepted to some t14 schools and a plethora of t25 schoos, this thread is more for some advice that I will give to one of my students (I tutor the LSAT privately). The student in question has some serious potential as she got over a 160 in her first diag, but the only problem is that she has a GPA of lower than 2.7 from a mediocre state school. I am confident that she eventually will be able to score in the 170s. I know that schools like WUSTL and NU ed (w/ work experience) do well to accommodate applicants with high LSATs but sub 3.0 GPAs. Any other schools that you would recommend for my student, a potential extreme-splitter, to apply for next year?

Thanks guys.

Re: Best schools for extreme splitters?

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 9:25 pm
by dpk711
perhaps UVA ED? although UVA doesn't seem to take many sub-2.7s...

Re: Best schools for extreme splitters?

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 9:30 pm
by blink
use the search function. this topic has been hashed out time and again.

Re: Best schools for extreme splitters?

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 9:37 pm
by mettasutta
Mid-western schools tend to be very splitter-friendly for some reason. If your student hits 170+, she'll get very generous scholarships to UIUC, IU--Bloomington, Iowa, UMinn etc.

Re: Best schools for extreme splitters?

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 9:45 pm
by dpk711
mettasutta wrote:Mid-western schools tend to be very splitter-friendly for some reason. If your student hits 170+, she'll get very generous scholarships to UIUC, IU--Bloomington, Iowa, UMinn etc.
It seems though that UIUC WLs a lot of their 170+/2.7s

Re: Best schools for extreme splitters?

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 10:00 pm
by Bumi
mettasutta wrote:Mid-western schools tend to be very splitter-friendly for some reason. If your student hits 170+, she'll get very generous scholarships to UIUC, IU--Bloomington, Iowa, UMinn etc.
Similar GPA and a 170+ here. I got a generous scholarship at IUB, but WL at UIUC and UMinn FWIW.

Re: Best schools for extreme splitters?

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 10:14 pm
by TatteredDignity
With a 2.4/175 I got WL'd at IUB but 60k at WUSTL.

Re: Best schools for extreme splitters?

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 10:20 pm
by dpk711
do any t14s regularly admit sub2.7/170s?

Re: Best schools for extreme splitters?

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 10:21 pm
by paulinaporizkova
dpk711 wrote:perhaps UVA ED? although UVA doesn't seem to take many sub-2.7s...
unless she's working on a successful cure for AIDS, i don't think that's happening. 2.7 is hella rough...............

Re: Best schools for extreme splitters?

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 10:22 pm
by paulinaporizkova
dpk711 wrote:do any t14s regularly admit sub2.7/170s?
probably Northwestern if the person has work experience. Everywhere else (t14s) not so much

Re: Best schools for extreme splitters?

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 10:22 pm
by dpk711
Georgetown?

Re: Best schools for extreme splitters?

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 10:27 pm
by mettasutta
dpk711 wrote:Georgetown?
Based on a cursory glance of the charts on LSN, highly unlikely unless URM.

Re: Best schools for extreme splitters?

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 10:27 pm
by paulinaporizkova
dpk711 wrote:Georgetown?
better bet for ED than UVA. Actually didn't think of that one. I know of at least one 2.7/172 currently going to Georgetown. I also know of a 2.95??ish/171-172 who recently got waitlisted ED

the 2.7 is a nonURM

ETA: also an engineering major i believe, so.....

Re: Best schools for extreme splitters?

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 10:33 pm
by dpk711
paulinaporizkova wrote:
dpk711 wrote:Georgetown?
better bet for ED than UVA. Actually didn't think of that one. I know of at least one 2.7/172 currently going to Georgetown. I also know of a 2.95??ish/171-172 who recently got waitlisted ED

the 2.7 is a nonURM
yeah, unfortunately my student is non-URM as well...

Re: Best schools for extreme splitters?

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 10:52 pm
by FiveSermon
dpk711 wrote:perhaps UVA ED? although UVA doesn't seem to take many sub-2.7s...
UVA doesn't take sub 3.0

Best t14 school she could get into barring URM status is NU with work experience. Maybe Georgetown if she ED's there. All other T14's are 100% out with a 2.7 GPA, no URM, no work experience, no cancer curing softs.

Re: Best schools for extreme splitters?

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 10:58 pm
by Bumi
dpk711 wrote:do any t14s regularly admit sub2.7/170s?
My T14 experience with those stats, non-URM, great WE: Cornell rejection, Georgetown rejection, UVa instate ED waitlist, NU admit.

Re: Best schools for extreme splitters?

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 11:06 pm
by dpk711
Bumi wrote:
dpk711 wrote:do any t14s regularly admit sub2.7/170s?
My T14 experience with those stats, non-URM, great WE: Cornell rejection, Georgetown rejection, UVa instate ED waitlist, NU admit.
may I ask how early u applied? and I'm assuming that you didn't apply NU ed?

Re: Best schools for extreme splitters?

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 11:11 pm
by king3780
dpk711 wrote:So while I'm a splitter myself (3.5/172) because I have already been accepted to some t14 schools and a plethora of t25 schoos, this thread is more for some advice that I will give to one of my students (I tutor the LSAT privately). The student in question has some serious potential as she got over a 160 in her first diag, but the only problem is that she has a GPA of lower than 2.7 from a mediocre state school. I am confident that she eventually will be able to score in the 170s. I know that schools like WUSTL and NU ed (w/ work experience) do well to accommodate applicants with high LSATs but sub 3.0 GPAs. Any other schools that you would recommend for my student, a potential extreme-splitter, to apply for next year?

Thanks guys.
3.5, 172 counts as a splitter nowadays?

Re: Best schools for extreme splitters?

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 11:12 pm
by Bumi
dpk711 wrote:
Bumi wrote:
dpk711 wrote:do any t14s regularly admit sub2.7/170s?
My T14 experience with those stats, non-URM, great WE: Cornell rejection, Georgetown rejection, UVa instate ED waitlist, NU admit.
may I ask how early u applied? and I'm assuming that you didn't apply NU ed?
All my apps were in halfway through October. Not ED at NU.

Re: Best schools for extreme splitters?

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 11:13 pm
by dpk711
king3780 wrote:
dpk711 wrote:So while I'm a splitter myself (3.5/172) because I have already been accepted to some t14 schools and a plethora of t25 schoos, this thread is more for some advice that I will give to one of my students (I tutor the LSAT privately). The student in question has some serious potential as she got over a 160 in her first diag, but the only problem is that she has a GPA of lower than 2.7 from a mediocre state school. I am confident that she eventually will be able to score in the 170s. I know that schools like WUSTL and NU ed (w/ work experience) do well to accommodate applicants with high LSATs but sub 3.0 GPAs. Any other schools that you would recommend for my student, a potential extreme-splitter, to apply for next year?

Thanks guys.
3.5, 172 counts as a splitter nowadays?
by defenition yes, since I was under the 25th percentile for my GPA and over the 75th percentile for my LSAT at some of the schools that I applied to...

Re: Best schools for extreme splitters?

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 11:16 pm
by barry
from what i hear the best T14's for this is either NU ED w/ WE or GULC ED Part Time

Re: Best schools for extreme splitters?

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 11:21 pm
by king3780
dpk711 wrote:
king3780 wrote:
dpk711 wrote:So while I'm a splitter myself (3.5/172) because I have already been accepted to some t14 schools and a plethora of t25 schoos, this thread is more for some advice that I will give to one of my students (I tutor the LSAT privately). The student in question has some serious potential as she got over a 160 in her first diag, but the only problem is that she has a GPA of lower than 2.7 from a mediocre state school. I am confident that she eventually will be able to score in the 170s. I know that schools like WUSTL and NU ed (w/ work experience) do well to accommodate applicants with high LSATs but sub 3.0 GPAs. Any other schools that you would recommend for my student, a potential extreme-splitter, to apply for next year?

Thanks guys.
3.5, 172 counts as a splitter nowadays?
by defenition yes, since I was under the 25th percentile for my GPA and over the 75th percentile for my LSAT at some of the schools that I applied to...
Huh. Learn something new every day.

Re: Best schools for extreme splitters?

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 11:24 pm
by dpk711
barry wrote:from what i hear the best T14's for this is either NU ED w/ WE or GULC ED Part Time
haven't thought of this before, the PT program at GULC is 4-years right?

Re: Best schools for extreme splitters?

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 11:30 pm
by Miracle
barry wrote:from what i hear the best T14's for this is either NU ED w/ WE or GULC ED Part Time
There are people who got in G-town as a full time student such as me, and I was a splitter

Re: Best schools for extreme splitters?

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 11:30 pm
by mettasutta
PT programs at most schools that have them have historically been easier to get into than FT, but thanks to USNWR now factoring the numbers for incoming PT students, this sadly may change.

Quote from TLS profile on GULC: "Traditionally, the part-time program has been easier to gain acceptance to, but with US News’ recent decision to take part time numbers into consideration when determining a school’s overall ranking, this disparity might soon vanish."