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Extracurriculars?
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 2:44 am
by espressocream
Recently had a conversation with a friend of my dad's who thinks I'm not doing enough.
I've started a group on campus for my major which takes up a lot of my time, frequent the Amnesty International club and work part-time. On the quarter system this gets difficult when I'm also taking 18 credits every single quarter.
I've applied for internships that I'm actually interested in, but have yet to hear back.
I'll be studying abroad next fall in London and will most likely have an internship there though. Maybe.
He basically said that I need to do more - mind you he didn't go to law school and went to graduate school for international studies (my major). That I need several internships, tons of volunteering (and maintain a position of importance at the organization), and participate in student government (which on my campus is the most ineffective institution since the League of Nations)
How seriously should I take his advice about doing more? I don't want to do things just for the sake of putting them on my apps - I find it dishonest, personally. And I don't understand why people would put themselves through things they don't even want to do just for a shot a school - which can probably see through all your over-commitments anyways.
Currently a sophomore at a top 100 school (med. private) aiming for T14.
Re: Extracurriculars?
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 2:46 am
by KibblesAndVick
Drink and party while you can still enjoy college. Study really hard for the LSAT. Never look back.
Re: Extracurriculars?
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 2:50 am
by NorCalBruin
Tell your dad that, for the most part, it's much more important that you focus on your grades--and you need time to focus on your grades. In the end, schools will care much more about your scores than your extracurriculars.
Besides, it sounds like you are already really involved!
Re: Extracurriculars?
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 3:03 am
by neonx
I'm going to chime in here and politely disagree. I believe that ECs/softs (the right kind) can really help non-URM applicants who fall below 25th percentile in either LSAT or GPA for some quasi-selective schools in the T14s (e.g. CCN, MVP). Just my two cents.
Re: Extracurriculars?
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 3:08 am
by ziggie
I have very few ECs, which I was worried about during the app process. That didn't seem to hurt me at all
Re: Extracurriculars?
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 3:14 am
by Sandro
Currently a sophomore at a top 100 school (med. private) aiming for T14.
Are UG rankings really this prevalent these days ? I don't get it.
Re: Extracurriculars?
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 3:16 am
by dr123
UG rankings are the dumbest shit ever
Re: Extracurriculars?
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 3:43 am
by MrPapagiorgio
dr123 wrote:UG rankings are the dumbest shit ever
+1
On the extracurricular question, unless you are doing something truly unique, don't worry too much. Everyone and their mother has one or two groups that they "participated in" and did some type of community service. However, if you started a non-profit that quickly became very successful (think those kids who started the cell phones for soldiers), that is worthwhile. But don't just do ec's to fill out the app. Because if you did not make an impact, adcomm's don't care how many you have.
Re: Extracurriculars?
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 3:44 am
by espressocream
Sandro wrote:Currently a sophomore at a top 100 school (med. private) aiming for T14.
Are UG rankings really this prevalent these days ? I don't get it.
Mentioned it because after trolling these forums long enough I've realized that someone will eventually ask - since apparently it does give your app some weight? That's the impression I've gotten.
Re: Extracurriculars?
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 3:47 am
by neonx
dr123 wrote:UG rankings are the dumbest shit ever
HYP.
Re: Extracurriculars?
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 3:48 am
by dr123
neonx wrote:dr123 wrote:UG rankings are the dumbest shit ever
HYP.
you don't need to consult the us news rankings to know hyp are the best colleges
Re: Extracurriculars?
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 3:52 am
by neonx
dr123 wrote:neonx wrote:dr123 wrote:UG rankings are the dumbest shit ever
HYP.
you don't need to consult the us news rankings to know hyp are the best colleges
Who said anything about consulting? It's a ranking--implied but still completely valid.
Re: Extracurriculars?
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 11:04 am
by r6_philly
neonx wrote:dr123 wrote:UG rankings are the dumbest shit ever
HYPSP.

Re: Extracurriculars?
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 11:08 am
by piccolittle
r6_philly wrote:neonx wrote:dr123 wrote:UG rankings are the dumbest shit ever
HYPSP.

Blatant anti-Columbia trolling.
Re: Extracurriculars?
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 11:09 am
by r6_philly
piccolittle wrote:
Blatant anti-Columbia trolling.
If they remember me this week...
Re: Extracurriculars?
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 11:42 am
by NorCalBruin
HYPUCLA
Re: Extracurriculars?
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 12:02 pm
by rinkrat19
LSAT+GPA >>>>>>>>>> Extras
Having no extracurriculars whatsoever is probably a bad thing, but you sound fine there. None of your stuff is on a par with a Medal of Honor, curing a disease, Olympic gold, etc, so it's all just average softs. (In LR terms, extracurriculars and soft factors are necessary but not sufficient to get into law school.) Grades and LSAT are 1000 times more important.
In fact, if any of your current extras are threatening to affect your grades, drop the extra immediately. And consider lightening your classload if you need to, to keep your grades up.
Re: Extracurriculars?
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 12:10 pm
by Perch
NorCalBruin wrote:HYPUCLA
this made me laugh out loud, thank you. honestly, thank you.
Re: Extracurriculars?
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 12:17 pm
by Sandro
espressocream wrote:Sandro wrote:Currently a sophomore at a top 100 school (med. private) aiming for T14.
Are UG rankings really this prevalent these days ? I don't get it.
Mentioned it because after trolling these forums long enough I've realized that someone will eventually ask - since apparently it does give your app some weight? That's the impression I've gotten.
But what is a top100? Nobody outside of concerned college students will probably know. Imo it only holds weight (very little) if you're ivy or some online school (not great)