Character and Fitness - Applications and Bar Admission
Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 1:11 am
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I really do not have a state preference. I've lived in one state my entire life and do not have experience with life in other places. I am completely open at this point, with maybe the exception of Alaska and Hawaii because of their distance.sarahh wrote:While it does not seem that you are required to disclose past treatment in NY, they do ask if you have “any mental or emotional condition or substance abuse problem that could adversely affect” the “capability to practice law”. And of course, other states may ask different things. If everything is under control now, it may not be an issue, but I would try to call some state bars or a lawyer that handles C & F issues. Your past incident may mean that you have more of an uphill battle than people who just went to see a therapist. I know you said you are not sure where you want to be, but surely there are some states you prefer. Most of us on this board are 0Ls. I would not take our word it will be okay when you are investing 3 years and $150,000 into going to law school.
I'm looking through those materials right now. Thank you very much for sharing them with me! I will try to find an attorney to advise me. Hopefully it won't be too expensive to talk to one.joebloe wrote:When I was wondering about C&F, I found some helpful information in the National Conference of Bar Examiners' publication, Bar Examiner (freely available at http://www.ncbex.org), which has a regular article called "Litigation Update". It consists of court decisions where people have sued over their bar applications. While I was looking for issues regarding criminal history, I do recall seeing some discussion of mental illness. You can find at least some of them through this Google search: http://www.google.com/#q=site:ncbex.org ... +update%22.
I think the main thing is that you may need to demonstrate that your mental health is under control and that you are mentally capable of the rigors of legal practice (regardless of how rigorous it may really be, but that's another discussion). It may also be worth consulting a lawyer who specializes in professional licensing (or whatever the proper term is) to see if there's any way you should be preparing, or even whether you need to be concerned.
A lot of bar associations have legal referral services. Maybe start with New York, since that is where a lot of the the jobs are? This seems to be the legal referral service for NYC http://www.abcny.org/LRS/index.htmaspire2more wrote:I really do not have a state preference. I've lived in one state my entire life and do not have experience with life in other places. I am completely open at this point, with maybe the exception of Alaska and Hawaii because of their distance.sarahh wrote:While it does not seem that you are required to disclose past treatment in NY, they do ask if you have “any mental or emotional condition or substance abuse problem that could adversely affect” the “capability to practice law”. And of course, other states may ask different things. If everything is under control now, it may not be an issue, but I would try to call some state bars or a lawyer that handles C & F issues. Your past incident may mean that you have more of an uphill battle than people who just went to see a therapist. I know you said you are not sure where you want to be, but surely there are some states you prefer. Most of us on this board are 0Ls. I would not take our word it will be okay when you are investing 3 years and $150,000 into going to law school.
Do you have any advice on how to find an attorney that specializes in character and fitness issues? I wasn't aware that there were even attorneys that gave consultations on these issues.
Okay, thank you for the information! You've been very helpful!sarahh wrote:A lot of bar associations have legal referral services. Maybe start with New York, since that is where a lot of the the jobs are? This seems to be the legal referral service for NYC http://www.abcny.org/LRS/index.htmaspire2more wrote:I really do not have a state preference. I've lived in one state my entire life and do not have experience with life in other places. I am completely open at this point, with maybe the exception of Alaska and Hawaii because of their distance.sarahh wrote:While it does not seem that you are required to disclose past treatment in NY, they do ask if you have “any mental or emotional condition or substance abuse problem that could adversely affect” the “capability to practice law”. And of course, other states may ask different things. If everything is under control now, it may not be an issue, but I would try to call some state bars or a lawyer that handles C & F issues. Your past incident may mean that you have more of an uphill battle than people who just went to see a therapist. I know you said you are not sure where you want to be, but surely there are some states you prefer. Most of us on this board are 0Ls. I would not take our word it will be okay when you are investing 3 years and $150,000 into going to law school.
Do you have any advice on how to find an attorney that specializes in character and fitness issues? I wasn't aware that there were even attorneys that gave consultations on these issues.
Or you may find it easiest to talk to someone where you are. A lot of lawyers offer free consultations, so you may not have to pay anything just to talk to someone for a few minutes.