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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 9:19 am
by lawbound2014
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Re: Chances at MVP with a 169 and a 3.55?

Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 9:35 am
by ndirish2014
Your GPA will hurt you. However, if you are applying in 2011 and you are a junior now you can improve your GPA. I think you have about a 50% (maybe alittle high) shot at Cornell and about a 25% shot at Penn, Virginia, and Michigan. Of course, alot depends on your experiences, soft factors, etc... (or at least it did for me) Try applying at ED at one of the three schools you really like. I think an ED at any of those schools gives you a very good shot.

Re: Chances at MVP with a 169 and a 3.55?

Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 9:47 am
by KMaine
In at Michigan, WL at VA with those #s a couple of years ago. Was not intereeted in Penn. Do a good job with your Michigan application. VA will only care about your numbers. Good luck!

Re: Chances at MVP with a 169 and a 3.55?

Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 1:35 pm
by absolutazn87
KMaine wrote:In at Michigan, WL at VA with those #s a couple of years ago. Was not intereeted in Penn. Do a good job with your Michigan application. VA will only care about your numbers. Good luck!
Be sure to write convincing Why Mich/Penn/UVA essays for all three schools. I would disagree with the fact that UVA only cares about numbers. If you're out of state, UVA almost exclusively accepts those who wrote Why essays. Their OOS acceptance rate is ridiculously low (in the single digits).

Re: Chances at MVP with a 169 and a 3.55?

Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 2:04 pm
by Pricer
absolutazn87 wrote:
KMaine wrote:In at Michigan, WL at VA with those #s a couple of years ago. Was not intereeted in Penn. Do a good job with your Michigan application. VA will only care about your numbers. Good luck!
Be sure to write convincing Why Mich/Penn/UVA essays for all three schools. I would disagree with the fact that UVA only cares about numbers. If you're out of state, UVA almost exclusively accepts those who wrote Why essays. Their OOS acceptance rate is ridiculously low (in the single digits).
Prospective students should keep in mind that the University of Virginia is a publicly-funded university. Consequently, it reserves 40 percent of its seats for residents and the remaining 60 percent for nonresidents. This leaves nonresidents at a slight disadvantage, which is discussed in more detail below.
Virginia Residents:

Dean Trujillo insists, “There is no particular “boost” given to residents. But residents have mathematics on their side.” In fact, there are “over nine nonresident applications for every resident application.” So, out of 7,880 applications in 2008, about 7,000 were from nonresidents. The ratio of resident to nonresident admittance is 60 to 40, so “nonresidents get only 1.5 seats for every resident seat in the entering class,” which is a huge boon for resident applicants.

Still, there are no special considerations given to Virginia residents who do not meet the school’s high LSAT and GPA standards. A sizable number of highly qualified applicants live in Virginia, and Trujillo lets it be known that “the medians between the pools are not statistically distinguishable.” This has led him to “joke that getting in…is ridiculously difficult (for nonresidents) rather than just being plain hard (for residents).”

Re: Chances at MVP with a 169 and a 3.55?

Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 2:13 pm
by AreJay711
So move to VA and apply ED I guess? I think the problem is that the OP is going to be below both medians applying RD.

Re: Chances at MVP with a 169 and a 3.55?

Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 2:20 pm
by dissonance1848
OP, boost GPA, and decide whether to apply ED to UVA or UM. If you don't apply ED, even applying early in Sept., you will be rejected at UVA, and WL at UM.

Re: Chances at MVP with a 169 and a 3.55?

Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 2:29 pm
by lawbound2014
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Re: Chances at MVP with a 169 and a 3.55?

Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 2:32 pm
by icouldbuyu
lawbound2014 wrote:Lets say I were to strike out at both UVA and UM, what are my chances to get Cornell, presuming I apply early september?
Retake

Re: Chances at MVP with a 169 and a 3.55?

Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 2:33 pm
by beachbum
lawbound2014 wrote:Lets say I were to strike out at both UVA and UM, what are my chances to get Cornell, presuming I apply early september?
Probably 50/50 at Cornell, depending on the strength of the applicant pool and the strength of your application.

And if you ED to one of MVP, go with M. Do not go with V.

Re: Chances at MVP with a 169 and a 3.55?

Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 2:37 pm
by AreJay711
I think moving to VA, getting some or more WE, and applying ED is the correct response if you want the best chances.

Re: Chances at MVP with a 169 and a 3.55?

Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 2:43 pm
by czelede
ED to M. You are below both medians at P and V - even with ED, all you're going to do is hurt their numbers.

Re: Chances at MVP with a 169 and a 3.55?

Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 2:45 pm
by lawbound2014
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Re: Chances at MVP with a 169 and a 3.55?

Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 2:49 pm
by lawbound2014
Do you think it might help me to retake for the third time if I can score one or two points higher or does it hurt me more that I am retaking for the third time, especially when it comes to these schools?

Re: Chances at MVP with a 169 and a 3.55?

Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 2:54 pm
by vissidarte27
I'd retake. 170+ would make you competitive at any of those schools, especially ED and with a Why X essay.