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And godspeed.Thanks buddy. Hard decision at the time, but very easy decision from the other side. Good luck in your endeavors!NZA wrote:You take care.
You know, I'm not sure. I feel like that's a different argument to make. One one hand, looking at the debt at hand at ANY t14 with my numbers (definitely no full ride inside t14) really helped me to re-examine and then to solidify my decision, although it wasn't the entirety of it. Going to HYS might have been different, but also might have been an additional blindfold to whether I really wanted to go to law school, so maybe I do consider not having HYS numbers a blessing in disguise.tkgrrett wrote:Would you have gone if you had gotten HYS?
Thanks. And I'm not totally sure where you got that conclusion. While my parents WERE willing to pay for me (I don't think I said that?), I always qualify for an automatic 0 expected family contribution on the FAFSA, since if you do the math, my parents have made that much money (that is, 215k, which is now the COA at Columbia over 3 years) I think before expenses). So in other words, they couldn't have contributed very much at all, except for groceries maybe a few months. Either way, I was looking at a suffocating amount of debt.bk187 wrote:Wait, your parents were willing to pay for you? Otherwise I don't see how the "last 7-9 years" comment is relevant.
Just curious, but I think it is great that you realize this now and not later. Good luck to you.
I see. Good luck with Fulbright. It is super-competitive. My girlfriend's sister graduated from a super-elite LAC last year with an identical gpa to yours and she struck out. Still, there are other ways to get to Europe if that doesnt work out. She was able to do the Europe thing by serving as an Au Pair for a family in Spain and then returned again the next year as a teacher of some sort while also studying historic European architecture.T6Hopeful wrote:Thanks for the support everyone. Means a lot to me, or (honestly) at least as much as an online forum could.
You know, I'm not sure. I feel like that's a different argument to make. One one hand, looking at the debt at hand at ANY t14 with my numbers (definitely no full ride inside t14) really helped me to re-examine and then to solidify my decision, although it wasn't the entirety of it. Going to HYS might have been different, but also might have been an additional blindfold to whether I really wanted to go to law school, so maybe I do consider not having HYS numbers a blessing in disguise.tkgrrett wrote:Would you have gone if you had gotten HYS?
Well you said that law school costs more than 7-9 years of your parents income. I just don't see how that matters unless they are somehow helping you out with the cost. Otherwise it seems like just an irrational way of looking at the cost (i.e. if you parents had made a million dollars last year but weren't helping you, the decision process should be the same).T6Hopeful wrote:Thanks. And I'm not totally sure where you got that conclusion. While my parents WERE willing to pay for me (I don't think I said that?), I always qualify for an automatic 0 expected family contribution on the FAFSA, since if you do the math, my parents have made that much money (that is, 215k, which is now the COA at Columbia over 3 years) I think before expenses). So in other words, they couldn't have contributed very much at all, except for groceries maybe a few months. Either way, I was looking at a suffocating amount of debt.
Yeah, I actually pulled the minority card super hard through my grant statement and all (I'm Asian, but that's more URM than ORM when it comes to European countries, especially to study that country's literature.), and my state college placed 18 or so of it's 36 applicants last year, which isn't too bad. I won't say too much more for anonymity's sake.tkgrrett wrote:I see. Good luck with Fulbright. It is super-competitive. My girlfriend's sister graduated from a super-elite LAC last year with an identical gpa to yours and she struck out. Still, there are other ways to get to Europe if that doesnt work out. She was able to do the Europe thing by serving as an Au Pair for a family in Spain and then returned again the next year as a teacher of some sort while also studying historic European architecture.T6Hopeful wrote:Thanks for the support everyone. Means a lot to me, or (honestly) at least as much as an online forum could.
You know, I'm not sure. I feel like that's a different argument to make. One one hand, looking at the debt at hand at ANY t14 with my numbers (definitely no full ride inside t14) really helped me to re-examine and then to solidify my decision, although it wasn't the entirety of it. Going to HYS might have been different, but also might have been an additional blindfold to whether I really wanted to go to law school, so maybe I do consider not having HYS numbers a blessing in disguise.tkgrrett wrote:Would you have gone if you had gotten HYS?
ETA: FWIW, if I were looking at sticker at a T14 I would make the exact same decision that you did.
Well it was just another factor in that my family's not wealthy by ANY means, so while not a fallback plan, it's not out of the question that with my brother going through college in the fall of 2012 that they wouldn't be able to even house me, period (I'm still a little surprised we've survived any foreclosure waves, to tell you the truth). So unlike some people on these forums that have parents that may be able to contribute maybe even 20-30k a year for COL for 3 years, I was looking at signing 215k+ interest worth of loans straight to my name, with no work experience at the moment.bk187 wrote: Well you said that law school costs more than 7-9 years of your parents income. I just don't see how that matters unless they are somehow helping you out with the cost. Otherwise it seems like just an irrational way of looking at the cost (i.e. if you parents had made a million dollars last year but weren't helping you, the decision process should be the same).
ETA: Unless you were somehow counting on them for some sort of fallback bail you out plan.
Thanks a lot, and good luck to you in everything.SupraVln180 wrote:Good luck man. God bless.
I see what you're saying. I guess my parents could cover my CoL or even full tuition if they sold some property, but I would never ask them to do either and I'm unsure how I would feel about it if they offered.T6Hopeful wrote:Well it was just another factor in that my family's not wealthy by ANY means, so while not a fallback plan, it's not out of the question that with my brother going through college in the fall of 2012 that they wouldn't be able to even house me, period (I'm still a little surprised we've survived any foreclosure waves, to tell you the truth). So unlike some people on these forums that have parents that may be able to contribute maybe even 20-30k a year for COL for 3 years, I was looking at signing 215k+ interest worth of loans straight to my name, with no work experience at the moment.
ETA: I'm not bitter that they're falling on hard times or that other people are luckier, just taking it into account in my situation.
thisDeuce wrote:Good luck brah
chihuahua12 wrote:I may have missed it somewhere in this thread, but is there a reason you aren't shooting for T20-T30 with $$?
Wouldn't you even get $$$ from T14 with those numbers ?chihuahua12 wrote:I may have missed it somewhere in this thread, but is there a reason you aren't shooting for T20-T30 with $$?
Deuce wrote:Good luck brah
Hilarious...when I was 14, I was going to be Rick Reilly, but then I realized that I hated him.homestyle28 wrote:Good luck to you sir. The lesson here is to never ask a 14 year old what they want to be when they grow up. A teenager doesn't calculate the costs of that dream job. When I was 14 I was going to play pro-football. Then I stopped growing. And was slow. And didn't like getting hit...