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Whose numbers are both bellow their 25th%?

Yep, wasn't even a fee waiver, just a "pay our $85 application fee and LSAC's $12 transaction fee so we can get your money, reject you, and pad our numbers even more".

edit: on another note, NW sent me a fee waiver around the same time, and I am right at/below their median numbers.

Yes I got the Harvard email and the NW email as well. I am also below their 25%, but not by much, and I have very good softs. I wonder if they are able to see these softs and where you went to school and etc., from the preliminary information in the generic LSAT application. Also I got the email after I improved my LSAT score, not with my first one. So I do wonder if this is just a gimmick as you say to get as much money as possible from application fees or do they selectively send this stuff out even among the people who may not consider themselves likely admits?

aspeer wrote:Yes I got the Harvard email and the NW email as well. I am also below their 25%, but not by much, and I have very good softs. I wonder if they are able to see these softs and where you went to school and etc., from the preliminary information in the generic LSAT application. Also I got the email after I improved my LSAT score, not with my first one. So I do wonder if this is just a gimmick as you say to get as much money as possible from application fees or do they selectively send this stuff out even among the people who may not consider themselves likely admits?

From what I have seen, read, and heard, I am pretty confident that application fee waivers are sent out to students who have a minimum LSAT and/or GPA. For example, a Northwestern admissions person logged into their admin account on LSAC and sent waivers to either everyone with an LSAT score of 16_+ or everyone with an LSAT score of 16_+ AND GPA of 3.__+. I am sure LSAC has some mailing system that makes this easy to do. I doubt the school looked at or even had access to any other sort of information (such as softs).

Pricer wrote:

aspeer wrote:Yes I got the Harvard email and the NW email as well. I am also below their 25%, but not by much, and I have very good softs. I wonder if they are able to see these softs and where you went to school and etc., from the preliminary information in the generic LSAT application. Also I got the email after I improved my LSAT score, not with my first one. So I do wonder if this is just a gimmick as you say to get as much money as possible from application fees or do they selectively send this stuff out even among the people who may not consider themselves likely admits?

From what I have seen, read, and heard, I am pretty confident that application fee waivers are sent out to students who have a minimum LSAT and/or GPA. For example, a Northwestern admissions person logged into their admin account on LSAC and sent waivers to either everyone with an LSAT score of 16_+ or everyone with an LSAT score of 16_+ AND GPA of 3.__+. I am sure LSAC has some mailing system that makes this easy to do. I doubt the school looked at or even had access to any other sort of information (such as softs).

I think that Columbia, et al, belie this assertion.

They just want more spending money and better selectivity ratings in the upcoming US News 2012 rankings chase is all.

Though it does say "[e]very year, we end up admitting students who never thought they had a chance at getting into Harvard." Yep. White male, 166, 3.72, I'm sure I'm one of them...