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Would you rather have +.1 on your GPA or +1 on your lsat?

That is, who is more likely to get in:

3.4/165
3.5/164

bport hopeful wrote:Would you rather have +.1 on your GPA or +1 on your lsat?

That is, who is more likely to get in:

3.4/165
3.5/164

+1 lsat. it's worth more.

Yeah thats what I figured. How far do you think that goes?

3.1/166
3.6/161

??????

Would you sacrifice lsat for gpa on a 1:1 always? -> if that makes any sense.

bport hopeful wrote:Yeah thats what I figured. How far do you think that goes?

3.1/166
3.6/161

??????

Would you sacrifice lsat for gpa on a 1:1 always? -> if that makes any sense.

who knows how far it goes, exactly. i mean, it's "rumored" that some schools have floors for gpa and lsat, which means that they likely won't accept you below a certain number. so you may get passed up at schools with a 2.7 179 the same as with a 159 4.0.... depends on the school of course. just get the highest lsat score possible and keep your grades up.

I read somewhere that USNWR ranks a school with 12.5 percent being LSAT and 10 percent being GPA.
I think it would be fair to guess the ratio is at least 1.25:1.

bport hopeful wrote:Yeah thats what I figured. How far do you think that goes?

3.1/166
3.6/161

??????

Would you sacrifice lsat for gpa on a 1:1 always? -> if that makes any sense.

Starting at 3.5/165 I'd trade the GPA for the LSAT every time. 3.0/170's have a shot at good schools while 4.0/160's don't.

Any GPA below 3.8 is TTT for law school. And any LSAT below 170 is TTT.

jaestro wrote:I read somewhere that USNWR ranks a school with 12.5 percent being LSAT and 10 percent being GPA.
I think it would be fair to guess the ratio is at least 1.25:1.

No, not really. The 12.5 to 10 ratio is true, but school's are given a normalized rating for their mean gpa and mean lsat. For example, a school with a mean gpa that is considered "average" for all schools will get a score of 5 for that category.

InLikeFlint wrote:

jaestro wrote:I read somewhere that USNWR ranks a school with 12.5 percent being LSAT and 10 percent being GPA.
I think it would be fair to guess the ratio is at least 1.25:1.

No, not really. The 12.5 to 10 ratio is true, but school's are given a normalized rating for their mean gpa and mean lsat. For example, a school with a mean gpa that is considered "average" for all schools will get a score of 5 for that category.

Yeah. If you got to the Law School Predictor it says the approximate importance of LSAT to GPA. I know for me, at Michigan, the substitution rate was 0.1 GPA for 1 LSAT exactly.

Starting at say a 3.7/170 for instance it would be equal to 4.0/167 or 3.5/172. That seems pretty reasonable.

bport hopeful wrote:
Would you sacrifice lsat for gpa on a 1:1 always? -> if that makes any sense.

LSAT is probably usually the best choice, but not always. For my current numbers I'd rather have +.1 GPA, but I'm already a splitter. +1 LSAT would probably not make any difference to my results.

AreJay711 wrote:

InLikeFlint wrote:

jaestro wrote:I read somewhere that USNWR ranks a school with 12.5 percent being LSAT and 10 percent being GPA.
I think it would be fair to guess the ratio is at least 1.25:1.

No, not really. The 12.5 to 10 ratio is true, but school's are given a normalized rating for their mean gpa and mean lsat. For example, a school with a mean gpa that is considered "average" for all schools will get a score of 5 for that category.

Yeah. If you got to the Law School Predictor it says the approximate importance of LSAT to GPA. I know for me, at Michigan, the substitution rate was 0.1 GPA for 1 LSAT exactly.

Starting at say a 3.7/170 for instance it would be equal to 4.0/167 or 3.5/172. That seems pretty reasonable.

That sounds about right, but in terms of how important both factors are to USNWR ranking, it all depends on the standard deviation of LSAT and GPA between law schools. I'm too lazy to look this up and prove anything, but think about it: if all law schools had extremely similar GPAs, then the standard deviation would be extremely low and a marginal difference in GPA would have a larger effect on their normalized GPA score.