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i am wondering if anyone can share any advice about where i should apply, i have a 3.65 ugpa and 158 on the lsat, i know most will tell me to retake but ive done this test twice with the same score, even while my practice tests were in the mid 160's something about the test kills me. Any advice is huge

lawschool12345 wrote:i am wondering if anyone can share any advice about where i should apply, i have a 3.65 ugpa and 158 on the lsat, i know most will tell me to retake but ive done this test twice with the same score, even while my practice tests were in the mid 160's something about the test kills me. Any advice is huge

Seriously, retake.

at this point retaking would be pointless anyway, im planning to start law school right after i graduate, and i graduate in may
if i take in february it would be way to late to get in any universities that i really am aiming for i.e. gw, fordham

WIth those numbers, unless you are a URM, you are most likely out at GW and fordham. I would look at Cardozo PT, Brooklyn, St. Johns and Hofstra for NY and American PT, Mason PT and Catholic for DC

thanks yankees, i applied to fordham and gw as pt so maybe i might get a shot but who knows, i already got into hofstra with a 30k scholarship

what would be the job prospects with american in dc with georgetown and gw there?

Obviously DC is a big market with a lot of lawyers coming from around the country so there will be competition, especially from higher ranked schools in the area (GW, GT, Mason, WM, WL). But American places a heavy emphasis on international law and public interest and has a stellar reputation for both (placing strongly in the NGOs and State Dept.). That being said I wouldnt go in hoping for Biglaw, but with a little legwork and good grades you should be fine.

would i have a serious chance at american if i apply?

They generally WL staring at 160 or so, but if you did ED you should have a fighting chance. ED PT and I would say you should get in, but I honestly dont know if ED will get you in FT (ive never really seen numbers for FT ED admits).

3.0, 160 here. My PT average was between 163 and 164. Had I hit my average, I'd have a chance at my favorites (UTenn and Wake), but I decided to settle for 160 after my second try. Taking another year off for the chance that I'd reach my potential on my last try just wasn't very appealing to me. So far, I'm happy with my decision and I've gotten accepted at several schools that I'd be comfortable attending. There are some schools out there that are decent options for people at our level numbers-wise. I wanted to work in the southeast or midwest (somewhat close to my hometown), so I applied to schools that place decently in areas that I'd like to work. For example, South Carolina for Columbia, Greenville, and Charleston. Ole Miss for Mississippi and West Tennessee. Memphis for West and Middle Tennessee. Missouri for St. Louis and KC. Etc. A lot of it depends on your career aspirations and ideal location. If you give me a little more info, I can probably give you some specific suggestions.

thank you, im also considering schools in ny and nj

thanks eric, appreciate it, i am looking to get into corporate law and im looking to get employment mainly in the northeast focusing on new york new jersey philly, or some cities in connecticut

I would add UConn, Villanova, Seton Hall and RU-N to your list.

If I were in your position, I'd probably be pushing hard for a school like Maryland's PT program. Also, UConn and the Rutgers. Most of the other schools that you'd be looking at in those regions (Cardozo, American, etc.) have a lot of competition and absurd tuition/COL.

ive applied to seton hall and ru-n already but according to the lsn and the calculators bs my chances at uconn or nova dont seem good

Does it have to be east coast?
West Coast has some great programs that might be competitive for you...usd, santa clara, loyola, usf, pepperdine, & with your fingers supertightly crossed uc hastings

lawschool12345 wrote:ive applied to seton hall and ru-n already but according to the lsn and the calculators bs my chances at uconn or nova dont seem good

You're definitely not so far out of their ranges that it would be worthless to apply. Add Temple too.

i dont know how comfortable i would be on the west coast that is why im hesitant about applying to any schools out there

Have you visited? Apply for fee waivers. Visit! It couldnt hurt and there will be a drop in ticket prices after holiday season!
I live in Cali and its great here.

FWIW, I was waitlisted last year at nova with a 158/3.06.

ive only been to san diego, but being someone from nyc the culture change was way too much for me to really get used to in my time there

and did you end up getting off the waitlist?

Temple seems like a really good fit for you. You're above 75th GPA and at 25th LSAT. I'd say you have a good shot.

I withdrew in mid-June. Decided to wait and retest. Now I'm waiting for my December score.

I applied almost on the last day they accepted, though, so that might have hurt me. I would definitely throw an app at them with your GPA if you are thinking about going.

it sucks because my gpa is relatively high for most schools i am looking into, its just the 158 that is killing me, and its jsut the test that really hurts me because when i took timed tests at home i scored much better

any other schools i should look into

thank you all btw, means a lot

quinnipiac if you really need a scholarship to attend (otherwise dont even bother applying), if you want boston, suffolk and northeastern and might as well add NYLS to round out NYC,

lawschool12345 wrote:that really hurts me because when i took timed tests at home i scored much better

Same here. From the movie "Waking Life":

"It’s like there’s this whole tele­pathic thing going on that we’re all a part of, whether we’re con­scious of it or not. That would explain why there are all these seem­ingly spon­ta­neous world­wide inno­v­a­tive leaps in sci­ence and the arts, you know, like the same results pop­ping up every­where inde­pen­dent of each other. Some guy on a com­puter fig­ures some­thing out, and then almost simul­ta­ne­ously a bunch of other peo­ple all over the world fig­ure out the same thing. They did this study where they iso­lated a group of peo­ple over time, you know, and mon­i­tored their abil­i­ties at cross­word puz­zles in rela­tion to the gen­eral pop­u­la­tion, and they secretly gave them a day-old cross­word, one that had already been answered by thou­sands of other peo­ple, and their scores went up dra­mat­i­cally. Like 20%. So it’s like once the answers are out there, peo­ple can pick up on them. Like we’re all tele­path­i­cally shar­ing our experiences."

Interesting stuff. Could explain the drop in results from practice tests lol. At least that what I tell myself.