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Splitter& reverse splitter @ T14

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 9:58 pm
by darkgreenfruit
At a good top 10 undergrad and non-URM, chances for these numbers at T14s?

3.64 GPA/ 171 LSAT
3.70 GPA/ 169 LSAT
3.83 GPA/ 167 LSAT
3.90 GPA/ 165 LSAT

Re: Splitter& reverse splitter @ T14

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 9:59 pm
by arism87
? Curious why you want to know? I mean, which is it? lol

Re: Splitter& reverse splitter @ T14

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 10:02 pm
by im_blue
arism87 wrote:? Curious why you want to know? I mean, which is it? lol
+1. Why does it matter? OP's only one of these.

Re: Splitter& reverse splitter @ T14

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 10:08 pm
by d34d9823
darkgreenfruit wrote:At a good top 10 undergrad and non-URM, chances for these numbers at T14s?

3.64 GPA/ 171 LSAT
3.70 GPA/ 169 LSAT
3.83 GPA/ 167 LSAT
3.90 GPA/ 165 LSAT
http://www.lawschoolpredictor.com

The end.

Re: Splitter& reverse splitter @ T14

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 10:11 pm
by darkgreenfruit
im_blue wrote:
arism87 wrote:? Curious why you want to know? I mean, which is it? lol
+1. Why does it matter? OP's only one of these.
I was curious to know which would count more if the splitter wasn't too extreme.

Re: Splitter& reverse splitter @ T14

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 10:13 pm
by arism87
darkgreenfruit wrote:
im_blue wrote:
arism87 wrote:? Curious why you want to know? I mean, which is it? lol
+1. Why does it matter? OP's only one of these.
I was curious to know which would count more if the splitter wasn't too extreme.
Well if I had to pick one, I'd pick the first.

Re: Splitter& reverse splitter @ T14

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 10:15 pm
by weejonbu
darkgreenfruit wrote:
im_blue wrote:
arism87 wrote:? Curious why you want to know? I mean, which is it? lol
+1. Why does it matter? OP's only one of these.
I was curious to know which would count more if the splitter wasn't too extreme.
Bro/bra.... this makes no sense... please pick one... are you sitting around the table with five friends?

This is just weird

Re: Splitter& reverse splitter @ T14

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 10:17 pm
by darkgreenfruit
d34dluk3 wrote:
darkgreenfruit wrote:At a good top 10 undergrad and non-URM, chances for these numbers at T14s?

3.64 GPA/ 171 LSAT
3.70 GPA/ 169 LSAT
3.83 GPA/ 167 LSAT
3.90 GPA/ 165 LSAT
http://www.lawschoolpredictor.com

The end.
I have a question. Is the Law School Predictor accurate in terms of the schools you are coming from? Surely the same GPA from an Ivy and a state school would be treated differently?

Re: Splitter& reverse splitter @ T14

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 10:18 pm
by 2011Law
weejonbu wrote:
darkgreenfruit wrote:
im_blue wrote:
arism87 wrote:? Curious why you want to know? I mean, which is it? lol
+1. Why does it matter? OP's only one of these.
I was curious to know which would count more if the splitter wasn't too extreme.
Bro/bra.... this makes no sense... please pick one... are you sitting around the table with five friends?

This is just weird
No, he's a freshman considering what numbers he wants to get.

Re: Splitter& reverse splitter @ T14

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 10:19 pm
by ATR
darkgreenfruit wrote:At a good top 10 undergrad and non-URM, chances for these numbers at T14s?

3.64 GPA/ 171 LSAT
3.70 GPA/ 169 LSAT
3.83 GPA/ 167 LSAT
3.90 GPA/ 165 LSAT
Bolded = in at UVA ED. The last one would probably be in, too, if the LSAT was a 167.

Re: Splitter& reverse splitter @ T14

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 10:20 pm
by darkgreenfruit
2011Law wrote:
No, he's a freshman considering what numbers he wants to get.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 2&t=139726

Re: Splitter& reverse splitter @ T14

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 10:22 pm
by darkgreenfruit
atresia wrote:
darkgreenfruit wrote:At a good top 10 undergrad and non-URM, chances for these numbers at T14s?

3.64 GPA/ 171 LSAT
3.70 GPA/ 169 LSAT
3.83 GPA/ 167 LSAT
3.90 GPA/ 165 LSAT
Bolded = in at UVA ED. The last one would probably be in, too, if the LSAT was a 167.
Come ON. The whole point was to see if splitters were okay.

Re: Splitter& reverse splitter @ T14

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 10:23 pm
by d34d9823
darkgreenfruit wrote:I have a question. Is the Law School Predictor accurate in terms of the schools you are coming from? Surely the same GPA from an Ivy and a state school would be treated differently?
Not really. HYPS is a very slight bump, a little more so if it is that school (Harvard especially takes care of their own, I hear). Otherwise, it doesn't matter.

Re: Splitter& reverse splitter @ T14

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 10:24 pm
by ATR
darkgreenfruit wrote:
atresia wrote:
darkgreenfruit wrote:At a good top 10 undergrad and non-URM, chances for these numbers at T14s?

3.64 GPA/ 171 LSAT
3.70 GPA/ 169 LSAT
3.83 GPA/ 167 LSAT
3.90 GPA/ 165 LSAT
Bolded = in at UVA ED. The last one would probably be in, too, if the LSAT was a 167.
Come ON. The whole point was to see if splitters were okay.
Well, feel FREE to neglect that part of the post.

Re: Splitter& reverse splitter @ T14

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 10:26 pm
by darkgreenfruit
d34dluk3 wrote:
darkgreenfruit wrote:I have a question. Is the Law School Predictor accurate in terms of the schools you are coming from? Surely the same GPA from an Ivy and a state school would be treated differently?
Not really. HYPS is a very slight bump, a little more so if it is that school (Harvard especially takes care of their own, I hear). Otherwise, it doesn't matter.
How depressing. Thanks though!
atresia wrote: Well, feel FREE to neglect that part of the post.
So you think one can get into UVA with a 165?

Re: Splitter& reverse splitter @ T14

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 10:30 pm
by ATR
darkgreenfruit wrote:So you think one can get into UVA with a 165?
Absolutely, under a few conditions.

Apply very early in the cycle
Apply early decision (ED)
Have a GPA above their 75% (3.92+)
Also, being a VA resident helps

UVA takes a lot of ED splitters, so they look for reverse-splitters to keep their medians high. I applied ED there and got wait-listed, probably because my GPA wasn't quite 75%+ (although it's above median).

Re: Splitter& reverse splitter @ T14

Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 1:31 am
by whymeohgodno
darkgreenfruit wrote:At a good top 10 undergrad and non-URM, chances for these numbers at T14s?

3.64 GPA/ 171 LSAT UVA ED
3.70 GPA/ 169 LSAT Michigan ED
3.83 GPA/ 167 LSAT Hope for Cornell
3.90 GPA/ 165 LSAT UVA ED

Re: Splitter& reverse splitter @ T14

Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 11:38 pm
by darkgreenfruit
whymeohgodno wrote:
darkgreenfruit wrote:At a good top 10 undergrad and non-URM, chances for these numbers at T14s?

3.64 GPA/ 171 LSAT UVA ED
3.70 GPA/ 169 LSAT Michigan ED
3.83 GPA/ 167 LSAT Hope for Cornell
3.90 GPA/ 165 LSAT UVA ED
On law school predictor:

1st one says UVA consider
2nd one says Michigan consider
3rd one says Cornell strong consider
4th one says UVA consider

So is it generally accepted that if it says "consider" you would get in if you did early decision? I didn't do early for any of the schools. I thought "strong consider" was that you'd probably get in, not "hope for...".

Re: Splitter& reverse splitter @ T14

Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 11:40 pm
by whymeohgodno
darkgreenfruit wrote:
whymeohgodno wrote:
darkgreenfruit wrote:At a good top 10 undergrad and non-URM, chances for these numbers at T14s?

3.64 GPA/ 171 LSAT UVA ED
3.70 GPA/ 169 LSAT Michigan ED
3.83 GPA/ 167 LSAT Hope for Cornell
3.90 GPA/ 165 LSAT UVA ED
On law school predictor:

1st one says UVA consider
2nd one says Michigan consider
3rd one says Cornell strong consider
4th one says UVA consider

So is it generally accepted that if it says "consider" you would get in if you did early decision? I didn't do early for any of the schools. I thought "strong consider" was that you'd probably get in, not "hope for...".
LSP didn't update Cornell LSAT median to 168. It still shows up as 167 which is why it shows as "strong consider".

Re: Splitter& reverse splitter @ T14

Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 11:42 pm
by d34d9823
darkgreenfruit wrote:On law school predictor:

1st one says UVA consider
2nd one says Michigan consider
3rd one says Cornell strong consider
4th one says UVA consider

So is it generally accepted that if it says "consider" you would get in if you did early decision? I didn't do early for any of the schools. I thought "strong consider" was that you'd probably get in, not "hope for...".
Law school predictor is a rough tool. Your results will vary based on when you apply and how good your app package is.

That said, if I was sold on a "consider", I would definitely ED as I believe "consider" is supposed to represent ~50% chance for RD.

Re: Splitter& reverse splitter @ T14

Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 11:54 pm
by darkgreenfruit
I was under the impression that ED was always binding and you could only do it for one school?

Re: Splitter& reverse splitter @ T14

Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 11:56 pm
by ATR
darkgreenfruit wrote:I was under the impression that ED was always binding and you could only do it for one school?
Not 100% if ED is always binding, but I know UVA's is. I'll let someone else address that.

You can only ED one at a time. However, if you get WL'd or denied after applying ED, you can apply to another school ED. For example, say you apply ED to Michigan in October but get denied. You can still ED to UVA or Duke ED II. Some schools offer ED applications at all times, but others have deadlines well before regular admissions deadlines.

Re: Splitter& reverse splitter @ T14

Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 11:57 pm
by JazzOne
darkgreenfruit wrote:I was under the impression that ED was always binding and you could only do it for one school?
If you have four sets of numbers, you can ED to several schools.

Re: Splitter& reverse splitter @ T14

Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 11:59 pm
by darkgreenfruit
JazzOne wrote:
darkgreenfruit wrote:I was under the impression that ED was always binding and you could only do it for one school?
If you have four sets of numbers, you can ED to several schools.
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Re: Splitter& reverse splitter @ T14

Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 12:02 am
by sundance95
JazzOne wrote:
darkgreenfruit wrote:I was under the impression that ED was always binding and you could only do it for one school?
If you have four sets of numbers, you can ED to several schools.
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