Who first- Splitters or Reverse-Splitters? Forum
- silverlake33
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Who first- Splitters or Reverse-Splitters?
For early decision applicants, do schools (T25) generally favor applicants with LSAT scores above median, or is it advised for those with high GPAs/low LSAT to apply ED for a better chance?
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Re: Who first- Splitters or Reverse-Splitters?
I don't see the dichotomy: if they favor higher LSATs, then yes, it would be advised for low LSATs to ED for a better chance. And as a general rule of thumb, the LSAT is weighed more than the GPA.silverlake33 wrote:For early decision applicants, do schools (T25) generally favor applicants with LSAT scores above median, or is it advised for those with high GPAs/low LSAT to apply ED for a better chance?
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Re: Who first- Splitters or Reverse-Splitters?
Thanks for your input : ) I am concerned that with a lower LSAT/higher GPA, an ED applicant would be rejected outright (whereas a retake + applying later in the cycle yields a greater chance than ED-ing with the lower score...let's say <170/3.5< vs. 170</<3.5).MysticalWheel wrote: I don't see the dichotomy: if they favor higher LSATs, then yes, it would be advised for low LSATs to ED for a better chance. And as a general rule of thumb, the LSAT is weighed more than the GPA.
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Re: Who first- Splitters or Reverse-Splitters?
It depends on how great the difference is. An EDer with 169/3.55 vs an RD 171/3.45 would probably have similar chances, but I would give the edge to the 171/3.4 applicant because of the LSAT.silverlake33 wrote:Thanks for your input : ) I am concerned that with a lower LSAT/higher GPA, an ED applicant would be rejected outright (whereas a retake + applying later in the cycle yields a greater chance than ED-ing with the lower score...let's say <170/3.5< vs. 170</<3.5).MysticalWheel wrote: I don't see the dichotomy: if they favor higher LSATs, then yes, it would be advised for low LSATs to ED for a better chance. And as a general rule of thumb, the LSAT is weighed more than the GPA.
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Re: Who first- Splitters or Reverse-Splitters?
Depends on your numbers and the school. In general, schools are almost always more forgiving to splitters than reverse-splitters.
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Re: Who first- Splitters or Reverse-Splitters?
+1.bk187 wrote:Depends on your numbers and the school. In general, schools are almost always more forgiving to splitters than reverse-splitters.
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Re: Who first- Splitters or Reverse-Splitters?
-1.bk187 wrote:Depends on your numbers and the school. In general, schools are almost always more forgiving to splitters than reverse-splitters.
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Re: Who first- Splitters or Reverse-Splitters?
You disagree?MysticalWheel wrote:-1.bk187 wrote:Depends on your numbers and the school. In general, schools are almost always more forgiving to splitters than reverse-splitters.
It does seem that in general, if you have to be below one median it's better to be below the GPA median than the LSAT. Of course there are exceptions and you have to take into account how big the split is/how far below the median you are, but it would appear that the rationale behind all this lies in the fact that high LSATs are more rare than high GPAs.
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Re: Who first- Splitters or Reverse-Splitters?
MW- your example was very helpful since I was thinking of cases in which the numbers are fairly close within a few points.czelede wrote:You disagree?MysticalWheel wrote:-1.bk187 wrote:Depends on your numbers and the school. In general, schools are almost always more forgiving to splitters than reverse-splitters.
It does seem that in general, if you have to be below one median it's better to be below the GPA median than the LSAT. Of course there are exceptions and you have to take into account how big the split is/how far below the median you are, but it would appear that the rationale behind all this lies in the fact that high LSATs are more rare than high GPAs.
Czelede- also the timing in the cycle might matter...for 'late' RD applicants, by the time Feb/March rolls around, they already might have filled up the class with higher LSATs and can afford to take lower LSATs at that point, hurting late splitter applicants' chances...of course, this is only speculative and based off anecdotal evidence, but nonetheless I'm worried about it.
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Re: Who first- Splitters or Reverse-Splitters?
As so many have said before, splitters (reverse or not) are notoriously difficult to predict, despite general trends, so I think it is a bit extreme to say schools are "almost always more forgiving" towards splitters. Berkeley is one school that comes to mind that surely favors GPA over LSAT.czelede wrote:You disagree?MysticalWheel wrote:-1.bk187 wrote:Depends on your numbers and the school. In general, schools are almost always more forgiving to splitters than reverse-splitters.
It does seem that in general, if you have to be below one median it's better to be below the GPA median than the LSAT. Of course there are exceptions and you have to take into account how big the split is/how far below the median you are, but it would appear that the rationale behind all this lies in the fact that high LSATs are more rare than high GPAs.
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Re: Who first- Splitters or Reverse-Splitters?
Way to underline your own emphasis in someone else's sentence. The "almost" is there to cover places like Berkeley. Considering Berkeley is the only T14 to favor reverse splitters over regular splitters, almost always is appropriate.
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Re: Who first- Splitters or Reverse-Splitters?
Just wanted to throw my hat into the ring here.
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Deuce wrote:Just wanted to throw my hat into the ring here.
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Re: Who first- Splitters or Reverse-Splitters?
lolDeuce wrote:Just wanted to throw my hat into the ring here.
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You're either an elaborate flame or else perfect for Chicago.MysticalWheel wrote:As so many have said before, splitters (reverse or not) are notoriously difficult to predict, despite general trends, so I think it is a bit extreme to say schools are "almost always more forgiving" towards splitters. Berkeley is one school that comes to mind that surely favors GPA over LSAT.czelede wrote:You disagree?MysticalWheel wrote:-1.bk187 wrote:Depends on your numbers and the school. In general, schools are almost always more forgiving to splitters than reverse-splitters.
It does seem that in general, if you have to be below one median it's better to be below the GPA median than the LSAT. Of course there are exceptions and you have to take into account how big the split is/how far below the median you are, but it would appear that the rationale behind all this lies in the fact that high LSATs are more rare than high GPAs.
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Awesome!Deuce wrote:Just wanted to throw my hat into the ring here.
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Oh, and to the OP: regular (high LSAT/low GPA) splitters, generally. With exceptions. Expect a lot of WL.
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Re: Who first- Splitters or Reverse-Splitters?
No, it's not appropriate. It is extreme language that oversimplifies the complexity of splitters. And the underline was to emphasize the extremity.Hannibal wrote:Way to underline your own emphasis in someone else's sentence. The "almost" is there to cover places like Berkeley. Considering Berkeley is the only T14 to favor reverse splitters over regular splitters, almost always is appropriate.
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Re: Who first- Splitters or Reverse-Splitters?
Wow, I wouldn't say splitters' results are OVERcomplex. It's not THAT bad.MysticalWheel wrote:No, it's not appropriate. It is extreme language that oversimplifies the complexity of splitters. And the underline was to emphasize the extremity.Hannibal wrote:Way to underline your own emphasis in someone else's sentence. The "almost" is there to cover places like Berkeley. Considering Berkeley is the only T14 to favor reverse splitters over regular splitters, almost always is appropriate.
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Re: Who first- Splitters or Reverse-Splitters?
Well, I applied to Chicago, but I think I'll go to Harvard or Stanford instead. Columbia is the consolation prize. Also, it seems quite odd to call someone who is relevantly responding with rational argument a flame, especially when you are not part of said argument. Why are you going to law school again?JazzOne wrote:MysticalWheel wrote:You're either an elaborate flame or else perfect for Chicago.czelede wrote:As so many have said before, splitters (reverse or not) are notoriously difficult to predict, despite general trends, so I think it is a bit extreme to say schools are "almost always more forgiving" towards splitters. Berkeley is one school that comes to mind that surely favors GPA over LSAT.MysticalWheel wrote:
You disagree?
It does seem that in general, if you have to be below one median it's better to be below the GPA median than the LSAT. Of course there are exceptions and you have to take into account how big the split is/how far below the median you are, but it would appear that the rationale behind all this lies in the fact that high LSATs are more rare than high GPAs.
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Double signature! What does it mean?!?!?!?!?
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Re: Who first- Splitters or Reverse-Splitters?
Either way, I find saying "almost always" extreme.Hannibal wrote:Wow, I wouldn't say splitters' results are OVERcomplex. It's not THAT bad.MysticalWheel wrote:No, it's not appropriate. It is extreme language that oversimplifies the complexity of splitters. And the underline was to emphasize the extremity.Hannibal wrote:Way to underline your own emphasis in someone else's sentence. The "almost" is there to cover places like Berkeley. Considering Berkeley is the only T14 to favor reverse splitters over regular splitters, almost always is appropriate.
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- MysticalWheel
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Re: Who first- Splitters or Reverse-Splitters?
I took care of it for you .Deuce wrote:Double signature! What does it mean?!?!?!?!?
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Re: Who first- Splitters or Reverse-Splitters?
Always would be 14/14. What would be the closest to always you can get, without it being always (thus almost always)?MysticalWheel wrote:Either way, I find saying "almost always" extreme.Hannibal wrote:Wow, I wouldn't say splitters' results are OVERcomplex. It's not THAT bad.MysticalWheel wrote:No, it's not appropriate. It is extreme language that oversimplifies the complexity of splitters. And the underline was to emphasize the extremity.Hannibal wrote:Way to underline your own emphasis in someone else's sentence. The "almost" is there to cover places like Berkeley. Considering Berkeley is the only T14 to favor reverse splitters over regular splitters, almost always is appropriate.
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Re: Who first- Splitters or Reverse-Splitters?
"Almost always" is held up over and over again by things like LSN. The majority of splitters don't have any complex issues going on. Let's face it, it is almost always about the numbers. Unless you have a published novel or a nobel peace prize you are just a set of numbers to admissions. Maybe a set of numbers they like after reading your PS or resume... but they aren't making the decision off that liking. They are going to make the decision off the numbers 9.9/10 times. And 13/14 times they will favor the "regular" splitter.MysticalWheel wrote:Either way, I find saying "almost always" extreme.Hannibal wrote:Wow, I wouldn't say splitters' results are OVERcomplex. It's not THAT bad.MysticalWheel wrote:No, it's not appropriate. It is extreme language that oversimplifies the complexity of splitters. And the underline was to emphasize the extremity.Hannibal wrote:Way to underline your own emphasis in someone else's sentence. The "almost" is there to cover places like Berkeley. Considering Berkeley is the only T14 to favor reverse splitters over regular splitters, almost always is appropriate.
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You are uniformly despised on this forum. Do you not get that? Wait, flame.MysticalWheel wrote:Well, I applied to Chicago, but I think I'll go to Harvard or Stanford instead. Columbia is the consolation prize. Also, it seems quite odd to call someone who is relevantly responding with rational argument a flame, especially when you are not part of said argument. Why are you going to law school again?
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