How to let a close friend know she has little/no chance? Forum

[paratactical]

Para, you need to so being so reasonable.

I think you just accidentally the noun.

[existenz]

Men tend to be more prone to overconfidence. I find this weird.

It's not weird. We rule the world. What you call "overconfidence", we call "thinking ahead".

Thanks for handling the baby part btw.

Anyway, I'm off to create things while the womenfolk talk more about feeelings...

[bk1]

Para, you need to so being so reasonable.

I think you just accidentally the noun.

Fuck my phone.

[URMdan]

Men tend to be more prone to overconfidence. I find this weird.

It's not weird. We rule the world. What you call "overconfidence", we call "thinking ahead".

Thanks for handling the baby part btw.

Anyway, I'm off to create things while the womenfolk talk more about feeelings...

You call it arrogance, I call it confidence

[paratactical]

You call it arrogance, I call it confidence

[dresden doll]

Men tend to be more prone to overconfidence. I find this weird.

It's not weird. We rule the world. What you call "overconfidence", we call "thinking ahead".

Thanks for handling the baby part btw.

Anyway, I'm off to create things while the womenfolk talk more about feeelings...

That made me cry.

Seriously, though, generalizations drawn ITT are lulzy. By all means, let's treat OP's friend as if she were the microcosmic representation of her entire gender.

Anyway. OP is showing overt solicitude regarding her friend. Wanting to set her straight is all nice and well, but if LSN/TLS combined haven't made her see the light, nothing outside of rejection letters will.

[20121109]

Talked to my friend last night.

Gaia: Have you filled out your apps yet?
Friend: Working on them now...I'm actually nervous. But I'm hopeful
G: Which apps are you filling out?
F: Columbia, Stanford, Chicago, Harvard, NYU....you know all the ones I care about...
G:*awkward silence* What other schools are you applying to?
F: Bout to fill out my Cornell app!!
G: You want to practice in NY, right? Maybe you should send in an app to Fordham too? You know, you can never be too careful....Definitely send in apps to Cardozo and Brooklyn as safeties
F: I don't know, I think I'll be fine...besides its gonna cost a lot of money to apply to all those schools. I can only afford so much...
G: I think its important you send in some apps to lower-ranked schools...you never know who could give you a full-ride!!
F: Yeah, but I'd rather go to a school that has a name, you know. That has prestige...the only schools in NY that have the kind of prestige I'm after are NYU and Columbia
G: *awkwarder silence* I really, really think you should send in app to schools below the T14. I know you don't like those schools, but you have to protect yourself in case you get unlucky.
F: I'll be fine, Gaia. I promise.
G: You looked at those websites I recommended, right?
F: Oh yeah...but I won't let that get in the way of my ambition
G: You mean your LSAT and GPA?
F: Yeah.
G: Awesome.

[dresden doll]

^Do you seriously think there's more to be done? Seriously? Just let those rejection letters kick in and do the talking. Your work's done here.

[bk1]

Talked to my friend last night.

[CONVO]

Find friends you can be honest with. HTH.

[20121109]

^Do you seriously think there's more to be done? Seriously? Just let those rejection letters kick in and do the talking. Your work's done here.

I guess so

[paratactical]

^Do you seriously think there's more to be done? Seriously? Just let those rejection letters kick in and do the talking. Your work's done here.

I guess so

PM me her email address and I'll send her the Hahhhhhvahd resumes.

[beachbum]

^Do you seriously think there's more to be done? Seriously? Just let those rejection letters kick in and do the talking. Your work's done here.

+1. You tried. Reality's a bitch.

[dresden doll]

^Do you seriously think there's more to be done? Seriously? Just let those rejection letters kick in and do the talking. Your work's done here.

I guess so

I guess I don't entirely understand the depth of your concern.

Yes, your friend will get rejected. It will hurt. But she will live. There's always the option of retaking and EDing to a T6 next year.

Really, it won't be the end of the world. You're putting more effort and concern into this than it objectively deserves.

[ahduth]

She doesn't want to confront her, it's not terribly complicated. "Honest discussions" about law school apps aren't worth losing friendships over.

[20121109]

^Do you seriously think there's more to be done? Seriously? Just let those rejection letters kick in and do the talking. Your work's done here.

I guess so

I guess I don't entirely understand the depth of your concern.

Yes, your friend will get rejected. It will hurt. But she will live. There's always the option of retaking and EDing to a T6 next year.

Really, it won't be the end of the world. You're putting more effort and concern into this than it objectively deserves.

I don't know...she's my best friend and I'm very close with her family. I guess I have issues with seeing my best friend run into a wall. And I don't want her to think that I think she's not T6 material. I don't want her to be offended. I know I've tried...oh well.

I'm not upset about it...I just care.

[URMdan]

^Do you seriously think there's more to be done? Seriously? Just let those rejection letters kick in and do the talking. Your work's done here.

I guess so

I guess I don't entirely understand the depth of your concern.

Yes, your friend will get rejected. It will hurt. But she will live. There's always the option of retaking and EDing to a T6 next year.

Really, it won't be the end of the world. You're putting more effort and concern into this than it objectively deserves.

I don't know...she's my best friend and I'm very close with her family. I guess I have issues with seeing my best friend run into a wall. And I don't want her to think that I think she's not T6 material. I don't want her to be offended. I know I've tried...oh well.

I'm not upset about it...I just care.

I think that you are exaggerating how much you really "care" about her, and you are using this thread to release some steam in the form of talking smack about her behind her back. You would probably prefer to see your friend get dinged at all the schools she applies to instead of getting accepted.

[capitalacq]

does your friend go by the name URMdan?

[094320]

..

[bk1]

I think that you are exaggerating how much you really "care" about her, and you are using this thread to release some steam in the form of talking smack about her behind her back. You would probably prefer to see your friend get dinged at all the schools she applies to instead of getting accepted.

fml

[URMdan]

does your friend go by the name URMdan?

Yes

[IAFG]

I think that you are exaggerating how much you really "care" about her, and you are using this thread to release some steam in the form of talking smack about her behind her back. You would probably prefer to see your friend get dinged at all the schools she applies to instead of getting accepted.

combined with the comment about not going to as prestigious a UG... lol insightful

[clintonius]

Para, you need to so being so reasonable.

I think you just accidentally the noun.

Wait. Accidentally the noun? Or accidentally forgot the?

[romothesavior]

Just let her do her thing. I mean, a 165/3.25 non-URM girl would struggle to get into Fordham, and even if she got in with little to no $, it would be a terrible decision ITE. Telling her to apply to a school like Fordham and drop 200k+ for a law degree or go to a school like Brooklyn or Cardozo is not good advice.

She needs to re-take, get some work experience, or search for a long lost Native American ancestor. Or all three. But telling her to apply to "safeties" where she could get in but attend at sticker is not TCR. Just let her do her own thing and figure out that she is dreaming if she thinks she can get into those schools with her numbers.

I had a friend who went to a T4 despite my advice not to. But like someone above said, unsolicited advice usually fails (and often ruins friendships). You just gotta let her do her thing.

[Renzo]

Para, you need to so being so reasonable.

I think you just accidentally the noun.

Wait. Accidentally the noun? Or accidentally forgot the?

Accidentally the adverb, I think.

[paratactical]

Para, you need to so being so reasonable.

I think you just accidentally the noun.

Wait. Accidentally the noun? Or accidentally forgot the?

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