Top Law Schools

As we enter a new cycle, which happens to be the first one Im actually participating in, I would like to help new posters avoid the misinformation around here. For this end, I propose creating a thread of things TLS does not know(or at least not accurately enough to be basing decisions on.)

1) The real difference in overall employment prospects between schools generally in the same tier.(i.e. HYS, CCN, schools 7-17, etc.)

Sample answer: "I know a guy in top 40% at Virginia who got no-offered at OCI, so no way anything below top 1/3rd at Duke is getting offers". These answers always assume that guy wouldve been the lowest ranked person at oci to receive a job and that USNWR directly correlate to job prospects.

2) What a year means to you. (scenario: guy with 3.8/170 gets into Vandy and wants to work in the Southeast but wonders if he should retake/reapply.)

Sample answer: "retake you can get into Harvard with that gpa plus a 180."; "Reapply, those are T14 numbers." Here vandy is a great school with great prospects so it really comes down to how the OP feels about taking a year off.

3) What you should do regarding your relationships. ("I want to go to UVA but all my friends are going to Michigan", "My husband doesnt want me to go to law school", "My parents want me to go to Florida State but I want to go to Florida")

4) Economic Forecasting ("Got accepted to Cornell but afraid Economy will kill lower T-14s off in 3 years")

Two competing answers: i. "Law business model is busted the legal world is ending, jobs going to India" ii."Economy is on upswing, hiring will be close to old levels in 3 years." FACT: I highly doubt anyone sitting on this forum has a PhD in Econ from Sloan or Wharton

5) How to get into super specific legal specialty areas. ("How do I get into French LGBT entertainment law", "How do I get into Pacific NW land/resource law in the private sector".)

Sample answer: "Stanford, L&C and UC-Berkeley are highly ranked in that area". Anyone can easily look up specialty rankings but you dont generally go from law school straight into specialties. You work as a generalist and then specialize through your casework. (i.e. you do well on a bunch of resource management cases you can become a specialist in that area.)

6) Most Questions involving elite schools in a region vs. elite schools nationwide in markets not named NYC/DC/Chicago ("I got into Columbia and Berkeley and want to live in San Fran", "I got into UVA and UCLA but want to practice in LA".)

tkgrrett wrote:1) The real difference in overall employment prospects between schools generally in the same tier.(i.e. HYS, CCN, schools 7-17, etc.)

7) How the tier system works.

ok... so get started..

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holydonkey wrote:

tkgrrett wrote:1) The real difference in overall employment prospects between schools generally in the same tier.(i.e. HYS, CCN, schools 7-17, etc.)

7) How the tier system works.

I think this meant to show you disagree with me grouping those schools together. I actually probably shouldve been even more general than that and put NYU in with the rest. In this range I think its pretty hard to say that schools are undoubtedly better than each other by ranking.(i.e. are Duke, Gtown, Cornell really better than Vandy?) Not to say that all these schools are the same or equal, just that within this range it gets more difficult to say one is almost always better than others.

Why don't you just rant about us being elitists and be done with it?

Duke, Georgetown, and Cornell really are better than Vandy.

tkgrrett wrote:

holydonkey wrote:

tkgrrett wrote:1) The real difference in overall employment prospects between schools generally in the same tier.(i.e. HYS, CCN, schools 7-17, etc.)

7) How the tier system works.

I think this meant to show you disagree with me grouping those schools together. I actually probably shouldve been even more general than that and put NYU in with the rest. In this range I think its pretty hard to say that schools are undoubtedly better than each other by ranking.(i.e. are Duke, Gtown, Cornell really better than Vandy?) Not to say that all these schools are the same or equal, just that within this range it gets more difficult to say one is almost always better than others.

So you're saying if given the choice to attend NYU or Vanderbilt, it would be difficult to say which one would be the right choice?

mallard wrote:Why don't you just rant about us being elitists and be done with it?

Naw man... just trying to point out the stupid things people ask and the ridiculous answers people offer as factual. Im actually one of the HYSCC aiming elitists myself.

holydonkey wrote:

tkgrrett wrote:

holydonkey wrote:

tkgrrett wrote:1) The real difference in overall employment prospects between schools generally in the same tier.(i.e. HYS, CCN, schools 7-17, etc.)

7) How the tier system works.

I think this meant to show you disagree with me grouping those schools together. I actually probably shouldve been even more general than that and put NYU in with the rest. In this range I think its pretty hard to say that schools are undoubtedly better than each other by ranking.(i.e. are Duke, Gtown, Cornell really better than Vandy?) Not to say that all these schools are the same or equal, just that within this range it gets more difficult to say one is almost always better than others.

So you're saying if given the choice to attend NYU or Vanderbilt, it would be difficult to say which one would be the right choice?

No, but given NYU and Michigan it would be.

tkgrrett wrote:

mallard wrote:Why don't you just rant about us being elitists and be done with it?

Naw man... just trying to point out the stupid things people ask and the ridiculous answers people offer as factual. Im actually one of the HYSCC aiming elitists myself.

That's not a tier.

mallard wrote:

tkgrrett wrote:

mallard wrote:Why don't you just rant about us being elitists and be done with it?

Naw man... just trying to point out the stupid things people ask and the ridiculous answers people offer as factual. Im actually one of the HYSCC aiming elitists myself.

That's not a tier.

Never said it was.. those are just the top schools I am aiming at and its faster to type letters that people understand than full names.

I was with you on the first one, but you quickly lost me support as the list went on.

D-ROCCA wrote:Duke, Georgetown, and Cornell really are better than Vandy.

QFT.

[troll]Also, Duke is really better than Cornell and Georgetown.[/troll]

Bosque wrote:

D-ROCCA wrote:Duke, Georgetown, and Cornell really are better than Vandy.

QFT.

[troll]Also, Duke is really better than Cornell and Georgetown.[/troll]

Who said Duke wasn't better than Cornell and Georgetown?

Also this thread is pointless.

romothesavior wrote:
Also this thread is pointless.

Agreed.

You should make a list of the things TLS does well. It would be a lot shorter and leave everyone a lot less butthurt. Here, I'll do it for you.

1. Offer free LSAT advice.
2. Distract you from doing more important things.

Yea.. im not even going to argue with the ppl thinking Duke/GTown/Cornell are significantly better than Vandy. If this thread is pointless to you then you always have "Wife Wanting to Attend Law School - Husband Forbidding It", "LawSchoolNumbers.com Fudging of Numbers", and "Human Rights Law" to fall back on.

KibblesAndVick wrote:You should make a list of the things TLS does well. It would be a lot shorter and leave everyone a lot less butthurt. Here, I'll do it for you.

1. Offer free LSAT advice.
2. Distract you from doing more important things.

Absolutely Credited.. thats kind of what Im getting at here..

tkgrrett wrote:Yea.. im not even going to argue with the ppl thinking Duke/GTown/Cornell are significantly better than Vandy. If this thread is pointless to you then you always have "Wife Wanting to Attend Law School - Husband Forbidding It", "LawSchoolNumbers.com Fudging of Numbers", and "Human Rights Law" to fall back on.

I will, thanks. Or maybe I'll go for a dose of "Nova Southeastern vs. Barry Law" or "Wealth from being an associate."

8 ) How to weed out pointless threads.

romothesavior wrote:

tkgrrett wrote:Yea.. im not even going to argue with the ppl thinking Duke/GTown/Cornell are significantly better than Vandy. If this thread is pointless to you then you always have "Wife Wanting to Attend Law School - Husband Forbidding It", "LawSchoolNumbers.com Fudging of Numbers", and "Human Rights Law" to fall back on.

I will, thanks. Or maybe I'll go for a dose of "Nova Southeastern vs. Barry Law" or "Wealth from being an associate."

I would think the "NFL draft is like choosing a law school" thread would be the first choice.

romothesavior wrote:

tkgrrett wrote:Yea.. im not even going to argue with the ppl thinking Duke/GTown/Cornell are significantly better than Vandy. If this thread is pointless to you then you always have "Wife Wanting to Attend Law School - Husband Forbidding It", "LawSchoolNumbers.com Fudging of Numbers", and "Human Rights Law" to fall back on.

I will, thanks. Or maybe I'll go for a dose of "Nova Southeastern vs. Barry Law" or "Wealth from being an associate."

A certifiable classic.

rad law wrote:

romothesavior wrote:

tkgrrett wrote:Yea.. im not even going to argue with the ppl thinking Duke/GTown/Cornell are significantly better than Vandy. If this thread is pointless to you then you always have "Wife Wanting to Attend Law School - Husband Forbidding It", "LawSchoolNumbers.com Fudging of Numbers", and "Human Rights Law" to fall back on.

I will, thanks. Or maybe I'll go for a dose of "Nova Southeastern vs. Barry Law" or "Wealth from being an associate."

A certifiable classic.

Rad, send me the link to that Akron law thread that I keep hearing about.

romothesavior wrote:

rad law wrote:

romothesavior wrote:

tkgrrett wrote:Yea.. im not even going to argue with the ppl thinking Duke/GTown/Cornell are significantly better than Vandy. If this thread is pointless to you then you always have "Wife Wanting to Attend Law School - Husband Forbidding It", "LawSchoolNumbers.com Fudging of Numbers", and "Human Rights Law" to fall back on.

I will, thanks. Or maybe I'll go for a dose of "Nova Southeastern vs. Barry Law" or "Wealth from being an associate."

A certifiable classic.

Rad, send me the link to that Akron law thread that I keep hearing about.

Oh god, please dont bring that one back