LawSchoolNumbers.com Fudging of Numbers Forum

[lawls]

So when making up slightly fudged numbers, do you think perople are more likely to give themselves better or worse numbers?

The only numbers you should really trust are the schools 25/median/75ths, as these are their real numbers. LSN is helpful for splitters, but for ordinary applicants you are most helped by paying attention to the school's own published numbers.

Ehh not necessarily. That isn't all that helpful for determining how the individual school handles applicants.

LSAT at median and GPA below median at a lot of schools = WL or Ding
LSAT at median and GPA below median at, say, WUSTL = Practically auto-accept

LSN is also helpful for guessing scholarships. 25/med/75 won't help you figure that out on your own.

Some schools it seems to help more than others, but if you have a median lsat you should be applying to the school. I realize your chances aren't always great but given the marginal costs as compared to the returns, there is no reason not to target "reaches" where you have a median lsat.

[trialjunky]

volfan6415, your tar is amazing!!!

[dominkay]

schools don't have time to scour LSN looking for people who have applied to their school and attempting to "match" that profile to one of their applications.

I know for a fact that one adcomm found my LSN profile and actually was able to find my TLS profile as well (they are the same). It didn't affect my application at all though (still accepted with a scholly that matched what others with my numbers received).

I have also been found via TLS.

How and why???

[NU_Jet55]

schools don't have time to scour LSN looking for people who have applied to their school and attempting to "match" that profile to one of their applications.

I know for a fact that one adcomm found my LSN profile and actually was able to find my TLS profile as well (they are the same). It didn't affect my application at all though (still accepted with a scholly that matched what others with my numbers received).

I have also been found via TLS.

How and why???

1) searches make it really easy to track people down. I've done it; it takes like 20 seconds

2) schools that worry a lot about their yield would have the motive

[NU_Jet55]

I really wish all law schools would provide the ABA with an LSAT/GPA matrix for publication. A lot of them do, and I think it's a useful tool.

The ones I've seen only show people who they've accepted with particular numbers. Do any law schools show rejections as well?

[Thirteen]

Don't put it up until the end of your cycle. 1 Pt on the LSAT is a huge factor.

This. Last cycle, I entered my real LSAT, and slightly fudged my GPA. For many schools, there seems to be a hard LSAT cutoff, so fudging this number could confuse applicants looking at the school's graph.

[volfan6415]

volfan6415, your tar is amazing!!!

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