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Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 10:00 am
by yoiav
need help. cant log in and update crs!!

Re: full columbia or nothing at yale?

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 10:02 am
by Teoeo
Depends on your goals. Are you interested in academia / Big law / PI / xxx ? I'd say in most cases I would probably pick Columbia.

Re: full columbia or nothing at yale?

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 10:03 am
by TheBigMediocre
Get back to us when you're in at both and have secured the scholarship at Columbia.

Re: full columbia or nothing at yale?

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 10:04 am
by yoiav
i suppose

Re: full columbia or nothing at yale?

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 10:07 am
by Teoeo
yoiav wrote:
TheBigMediocre wrote:Get back to us when you're in at both and have secured the scholarship at Columbia.
so forget the money. what's the difference between the 2 schools? if i dont intend on going to a big time firm and work crazy hours, does yale over columbia really make a difference?
Of course it makes a difference. The amount of difference it makes, however, depends on what your career path is. For example, if you want to go into academia, it makes a BIG difference. If, on the other hand, you want to work for a law firm in NYC, it probably makes less of a difference.

Re: full columbia or nothing at yale?

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 10:09 am
by Bildungsroman
For academia, Yale > Columbia
For clerkships, Yale > Columbia

Re: full columbia or nothing at yale?

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 10:10 am
by Teoeo
I'd like to mention that no combination of numbers gives you a lock on Yale. Unlike Harvard, Yale has a small class size and rejects people with near perfect numbers with some frequency. I suggest you start thinking about your PS.

Re: full columbia or nothing at yale?

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 10:10 am
by Teoeo
Bildungsroman wrote:For academia, Yale > Columbia
For clerkships, Yale > Columbia
Credited

Yale has RIDICULOUS clerkship rates

Re: full columbia or nothing at yale?

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 10:12 am
by yoiav
doubtful

Re: full columbia or nothing at yale?

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 10:13 am
by yoiav
as an aside, is there somewhere i can leave a message for the moderators?

Re: full columbia or nothing at yale?

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 10:13 am
by Teoeo
yoiav wrote:so back to my hypothetical, is yale worth 150,000 more than columbia?

Edited for obnoxiousness:

Academia ----- > Yale
Politics ------> Yale
DOJ -------> Debatable, probably Yale
PI ------> Depends on income, if low enough Yale (LRAP), if high enough (ex. Fed Gov.) Columbia
Everything else ------> Columbia

*This is just my opinion obviously =D

Re: full columbia or nothing at yale?

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 10:17 am
by jdstl
If your dream is to clerk on the COA (or maybe, if you're lucky/very smart, SCOTUS) then Yale is the obvious choice, maybe also if you would dissatisfied with anything but the most prestigious firm/government position.

If you don't really care and just want to get a good paying job, no reason not to take Columbia's offer to the bank.

Re: full columbia or nothing at yale?

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 10:26 am
by doyleoil
Yale's LRAP makes this a no-brainer. Good luck getting in!

Re: full columbia or nothing at yale?

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 10:27 am
by Grizz
TheBigMediocre wrote:Get back to us when you're in at both and have secured the scholarship at Columbia.

Re: full columbia or nothing at yale?

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 10:31 am
by CG614
Columbia is a great school, but if you think you may have any desire to be a judge or any political ambitions, then Yale and Harvard are better. I agree that this thread is obnoxious, cause the OP does not yet have this option (even though OP may one day have it). If given the option, I would choose Yale over the Hamilton.

Re: full columbia or nothing at yale?

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 10:32 am
by lawls
rad law wrote:
TheBigMediocre wrote:Get back to us when you're in at both and have secured the scholarship at Columbia.

Re: full columbia or nothing at yale?

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 1:28 pm
by notanumber
Yale doesn't have grades, Columbia does.

Yale has better job placement across the board.

Yale requires you to write more.

You cannot grade onto Yale law review. Columbia factors grades into things.

Yale has smaller class size and more student/faculty interaction

Yale has a far superior LRAP program.

Yale is in New Haven, Columbia is in New York.

The Yale Law building is gothic revival which gives it a "harry potter" feel. Columbia's is an Abramovitz building (think Lincoln Center) with a 60s modernist feel.

Yale impresses more people at cocktail parties.

Are the advantages of Yale (such that there are) worth the money? That's a personal question and one that only you can answer.

But:
lawls wrote:
rad law wrote:
TheBigMediocre wrote:Get back to us when you're in at both and have secured the scholarship at Columbia.
I have numbers very similar to yours and didn't get a full scholarship at Columbia. One ought not count one's chickens.

Re: full columbia or nothing at yale?

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 1:29 pm
by mallard
Columbia if you get the Hamilton.

Re: full columbia or nothing at yale?

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 1:46 pm
by rayiner
There are lots of unemployed people at Columbia.

*if* you get into YHS, go to YHS.

Re: full columbia or nothing at yale?

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 1:59 pm
by yoiav
[/quote]

I have numbers very similar to yours and didn't get a full scholarship at Columbia. One ought not count one's chickens.[/quote]
what type of scholarship did you get?

Re: full columbia or nothing at yale?

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 2:03 pm
by dukelawguy144
you are wrong to assume that you will get into Yale. You are also wrong to assume that you will get a full scholarship to Columbia.

Am I wrong to assume you are full of crap?

Re: full columbia or nothing at yale?

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 2:04 pm
by vanwinkle
dukelawguy144 wrote:your wrong to assume that you will get into Yale. You are also wrong to assume that you will get a full scholarship to Columbia.

Am I wrong to assume you are full of crap?
Glass houses, dude.

Re: full columbia or nothing at yale?

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 2:08 pm
by yoiav
dukelawguy144 wrote:you are wrong to assume that you will get into Yale. You are also wrong to assume that you will get a full scholarship to Columbia.

Am I wrong to assume you are full of crap?
assume away

Re: full columbia or nothing at yale?

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 2:10 pm
by r6_philly
notanumber wrote: Yale impresses more people at cocktail parties.
I am going with this as the credited response.

Re: full columbia or nothing at yale?

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 2:11 pm
by mallard
r6_philly wrote:
notanumber wrote: Yale Harvard impresses more people at cocktail parties.
I am going with this as the credited response.
Yeah, but that's not all that important in the long run.