Law clinics under fire from special interests Forum
- b.gump81
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Re: Law clinics under fire from special interests
It is a shame that law schools in states not directly threatened by this legislation will still become restricted as their law clinics become more cautious and limited in what cases they take on.
- jlnoa0915
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State money should not be used to protect the state environment, citizens health or insure the safety of its citizens! Madness! Those crazy law students; don't they know that the money is supposed to go into the pockets of the regulators and corrupt politicians and lobbyists? What are they teaching at law school these days?
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The only solace is that these states will reap what they sow....jlnoa0915 wrote:State money should not be used to protect the state environment, citizens health or insure the safety of its citizens! Madness! Those crazy law students; that money is supposed to go into the pockets of the regulators and corrupt politicians and lobbyists?
Except that they just end up relying on federal money to fix their problems:
http://www.taxfoundation.org/research/show/266.html
Notice that LA is #4.
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I see no reason why legislatures should not be able to stop funding clinics whenever they deem it appropriate.
That says nothing about the merits of this case, i.e. whether they should deem it appropriate in this instance.
That says nothing about the merits of this case, i.e. whether they should deem it appropriate in this instance.
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Flawless logic.soullesswonder wrote:Silver Lining: obviously students are getting great practical experience and actually making a difference; otherwise they wouldn't be pissing people off.
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Re: Law clinics under fire from special interests
Also I certainly don't see any reason that legislatures shouldn't be able to see who the clinics they fund are representing.
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Because legislators could never possibly have their judgment swayed by interest and lobbying groups. No, they're always very fair, balanced and completely unbiased.bigben wrote:I see no reason why legislatures should not be able to stop funding clinics whenever they deem it appropriate.
That says nothing about the merits of this case, i.e. whether they should deem it appropriate in this instance.
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It's not left to students. Any attorney can take the case.nuss3 wrote:pretty outrageous. kind of sad when something so important as checking special interest is left to students (although the opportunity for the students is obviously great).
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That study is from 2005..... I'm pretty sure New Orleans was destroyed by a hurricane that year.....................Z3RO wrote:The only solace is that these states will reap what they sow....jlnoa0915 wrote:State money should not be used to protect the state environment, citizens health or insure the safety of its citizens! Madness! Those crazy law students; that money is supposed to go into the pockets of the regulators and corrupt politicians and lobbyists?
Except that they just end up relying on federal money to fix their problems:
http://www.taxfoundation.org/research/show/266.html
Notice that LA is #4.
There isn't much these students can do if the legislatures cut off their funding. Other than having bikini car washes to raise some dough. It's pretty unfortunate too since the clinics provide valuable public services to other, less controversial parties who also can't afford attorneys.
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Welcome to democracy. Or perhaps more precisely, welcome to human nature.jlnoa0915 wrote:Because legislators could never possibly have their judgment swayed by interest and lobbying groups. No, they're always very fair, balanced and completely unbiased.bigben wrote:I see no reason why legislatures should not be able to stop funding clinics whenever they deem it appropriate.
That says nothing about the merits of this case, i.e. whether they should deem it appropriate in this instance.
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I suppose in that case we should let greed and corruption run rampant because its 'human nature' and not attempt to do a thing about it...I don't disagree with your point just don't believe we should do nothing about it.bigben wrote:Welcome to democracy. Or perhaps more precisely, welcome to human nature.jlnoa0915 wrote:Because legislators could never possibly have their judgment swayed by interest and lobbying groups. No, they're always very fair, balanced and completely unbiased.bigben wrote:I see no reason why legislatures should not be able to stop funding clinics whenever they deem it appropriate.
That says nothing about the merits of this case, i.e. whether they should deem it appropriate in this instance.
Were a Democratic Republic not a Democracy FWIW
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Ambition must be made to counteract ambition.jlnoa0915 wrote:I suppose in that case we should let greed and corruption run rampant because its 'human nature' and not attempt to do a thing about it...I don't disagree with your point just don't believe we should do nothing about it.
Were a Democratic Republic not a Democracy FWIW
Of course you're right. I just don't know if there is any corruption or serious problem in this case. Law professors and students can be biased too, you know.
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This should be a lesson for those who wish to continue indiscriminately increasing the extent to which government funds (and may thereby control) our institutions of higher education (including so-called private institutions).
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Re: Law clinics under fire from special interests
not every attorney has the requisite time, money, and knowledge to handle the case. law clinics (in addition to PI in general) function as de facto stopgaps for cases with little financial return exactly because not only are some lawyers unable to handle a case like this, but many simply don't want to. more than one level of limiting factors is at play in this situation.bigben wrote:It's not left to students. Any attorney can take the case.nuss3 wrote:pretty outrageous. kind of sad when something so important as checking special interest is left to students (although the opportunity for the students is obviously great).
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The Supreme Court could work full time and year round just overturning Louisiana legal decisions and statutes.Cupidity wrote:let it make it to the supreme court.vanwinkle wrote:Judges in Louisiana are elected, and are not required to recuse themselves from cases due to conflict of interest to the same extent they are in many other states. Pwned.Cupidity wrote:Poor fools don't know who they are messing with. All judges were once law students. Anyone who goes after law schools is in for a world of hurt.
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