NYU spreading fee waivers to students with no chance.
Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 4:41 am
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They're correcting for the pernicious effects of people not realizing that they are better than they would otherwise rank.Daytukrjabs wrote:"2.5% of the overall score is the acceptance rate for students. Highly Manipulable. As with (3) and (5), U.S. News has no way of verifying the data reported by private schools. In addition, many schools inflate their "selectivity" by giving fee waivers to applicants who have no chance of getting in. NYU is reported to have pioneered in this arena, but many others have followed suit."
http://www.leiterrankings.com/usnews/guide.shtml
I know Northwestern is another that does this. I may be naive in thinking this, but I always thought that educators and front-runners of academic excellence would find ways to mitigate the pernicious effects of flawed ranking, not yield to it. Errg!
Im that case, thanks for the breaking news.Daytukrjabs wrote:No, they don't.TTTennis wrote:What is the point of this thread? Everyone knows the USNWR suck and aren't very reliable. Everyone also knows that schools game the rankings. If you don't like it then do you own research and go wherever you think is the best...if that's Cooley than great. Until everyone stops buying the magazine, however, the bullshit will go on.
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Weird. They gave me one last year (and I didn't even ask for it).newyorker88 wrote:WTF? NYU told me they didn't offer fee waivers.
Thank you for your email. NYU Law does not offer fee waivers. Applicants who have received a fee waiver from LSAC are eligible for a fee waiver from our application fee. Those who have received a LSAC fee waiver will automatically receive an application fee waiver from NYU if they apply electronically. If you decide to mail in your application, please include the LSAC fee waiver.
Thank you for your interest in NYU School of Law.
Office of Admissions
New York University School of Law
Pretty sure schools just blatantly lie about fee waivers. I requested a fee waiver from Notre Dame the day after receiving my December score, citing my LSAT and GPA, and they responded with some bogus about not granting merit based fee waivers. Two days later I received an automated email which contained a merit fee waiver.spondee wrote:Weird. They gave me one last year (and I didn't even ask for it).newyorker88 wrote:WTF? NYU told me they didn't offer fee waivers.
Thank you for your email. NYU Law does not offer fee waivers. Applicants who have received a fee waiver from LSAC are eligible for a fee waiver from our application fee. Those who have received a LSAC fee waiver will automatically receive an application fee waiver from NYU if they apply electronically. If you decide to mail in your application, please include the LSAC fee waiver.
Thank you for your interest in NYU School of Law.
Office of Admissions
New York University School of Law
Your thread title sucks.Daytukrjabs wrote:"[strike]2.5% of the overall score is the acceptance rate for students. Highly Manipulable. As with (3) and (5), U.S. News has no way of verifying the data reported by private schools. In addition, many schools inflate their "selectivity" by giving fee waivers to applicants who have no chance of getting in. NYU is reported to have pioneered in this arena, but many others have followed suit."
http://www.leiterrankings.com/usnews/guide.shtml
I know Northwestern is another that does this. I may be naive in thinking this, but I always thought that educators and front-runners of academic excellence would find ways to mitigate the pernicious effects of flawed ranking, not yield to it. Errg[/strike]!
strikeoutD. H2Oman wrote:[strike]Your thread title sucks.[/strike]Daytukrjabs wrote:"[strike]2.5% of the overall score is the acceptance rate for students. Highly Manipulable. As with (3) and (5), U.S. News has no way of verifying the data reported by private schools. In addition, many schools inflate their "selectivity" by giving fee waivers to applicants who have no chance of getting in. NYU is reported to have pioneered in this arena, but many others have followed suit."
http://www.leiterrankings.com/usnews/guide.shtml
I know Northwestern is another that does this. I may be naive in thinking this, but I always thought that educators and front-runners of academic excellence would find ways to mitigate the pernicious effects of flawed ranking, not yield to it. Errg[/strike]!
Everyone should know, but there are some people who don't. I have a friend who is intelligent, attractive and seems to have great potential, but she depends on the rankings. The highest ranked school in USNWR that accepts her will get her this fall. I have had talks with her about it...to the point of my annoying her. I understand and even think that people's reliance on rankings is somewhat rational, given that employers filter students through the schools and, by extension, the rankings. But blindly depending on rankings to plan your future isn't the best way to go.TTTennis wrote:What is the point of this thread? Everyone knows the USNWR suck and aren't very reliable. Everyone also knows that schools game the rankings. If you don't like it then do you own research and go wherever you think is the best...if that's Cooley than great. Until everyone stops buying the magazine, however, the bullshit will go on.
I keep seeing this argument on here and I get where people are coming from, but I still feel that it's very misleading no matter how you frame it. Outside HYS, employment is very dependent on where you are geographically.PDaddy wrote: I understand and even think that people's reliance on rankings is somewhat rational, given that employers filter students through the schools and, by extension, the rankings. But blindly depending on rankings to plan your future isn't the best way to go.
Sounds like they don't give fee waivers if you ask (need-based or otherwise), but they certainly do offer them to underqualified applicants.newyorker88 wrote:WTF? NYU told me they didn't offer fee waivers.
Thank you for your email. NYU Law does not offer fee waivers. Applicants who have received a fee waiver from LSAC are eligible for a fee waiver from our application fee. Those who have received a LSAC fee waiver will automatically receive an application fee waiver from NYU if they apply electronically. If you decide to mail in your application, please include the LSAC fee waiver.
Thank you for your interest in NYU School of Law.
Office of Admissions
New York University School of Law
*raises hand*im_blue wrote:Sounds like they don't give fee waivers if you ask (need-based or otherwise), but they certainly do offer them to underqualified applicants.