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Re: Backdoor(s) to law school admission. List 'em.

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 8:35 pm
by tinman
Peter North wrote:I'm just curious to know as to what are some known "backdoor(s) to admission" at the top schools. Absent competitive LSAT/GPA/softs, what are some other ways one can go around attaining admission to a top HYS/T14esque school?

Right off the top of my head, I'm thinking:

- Donation to the endowment fund.
- Legacy admits.
- Connected to an affluent member of society/alumni.
- Celebrity profile.

Anything else? :?

PS - I didn't list URM because the bigots of TLS will go nuts with the hatin'. Also, please don't suggest anything inappropriate or criminal in nature (ie. forged transcripts, cheating on the LSAT, etc).
Wouldn't celebrity profile be a soft?

Re: Backdoor(s) to law school admission. List 'em.

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 8:37 pm
by tinman
Also, I think child of a non-alumnus faculty member could be added to your list.

Re: Backdoor(s) to law school admission. List 'em.

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 8:37 pm
by acdisagod
Commit a felony, go to prison, master the law, go to Michigan.

Re: Backdoor(s) to law school admission. List 'em.

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 8:38 pm
by Jules Winnfield
Part-time programs.

Re: Backdoor(s) to law school admission. List 'em.

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 8:38 pm
by calicocat
Loose morals leading to promiscuity

Re: Backdoor(s) to law school admission. List 'em.

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 8:42 pm
by RVP11
Peter North wrote:I'm just curious to know as to what are some known "backdoor(s) to admission" at the top schools. Absent competitive LSAT/GPA/softs, what are some other ways one can go around attaining admission to a top HYS/T14esque school?

Right off the top of my head, I'm thinking:

- Donation to the endowment fund.
- Legacy admits.
- Connected to an affluent member of society/alumni.
- Celebrity profile.

Anything else? :?

PS - I didn't list URM because the bigots of TLS will go nuts with the hatin'. Also, please don't suggest anything inappropriate or criminal in nature (ie. forged transcripts, cheating on the LSAT, etc).
You have to do the same things you did to get into straight porn.

Re: Backdoor(s) to law school admission. List 'em.

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 2:48 am
by tinman
JSUVA2012 wrote:
Peter North wrote:I'm just curious to know as to what are some known "backdoor(s) to admission" at the top schools. Absent competitive LSAT/GPA/softs, what are some other ways one can go around attaining admission to a top HYS/T14esque school?

Right off the top of my head, I'm thinking:

- Donation to the endowment fund.
- Legacy admits.
- Connected to an affluent member of society/alumni.
- Celebrity profile.

Anything else? :?

PS - I didn't list URM because the bigots of TLS will go nuts with the hatin'. Also, please don't suggest anything inappropriate or criminal in nature (ie. forged transcripts, cheating on the LSAT, etc).
You have to do the same things you did to get into straight porn.
hahahaha TITCR

Re: Backdoor(s) to law school admission. List 'em.

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 2:49 am
by Trifles
JSUVA2012 wrote:
You have to do the same things you did to get into straight porn.
All you have to do to get into straight porn is be a jewish guy, so I disagree.

Re: Backdoor(s) to law school admission. List 'em.

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 2:50 am
by NUMB3RFIFTY
I heard somewhere that more and more schools are heavily factoring in community service.

I hope thats true because I have 7 years worth of full time community service, doing a variety of things.

Can anyone confirm?

Re: Backdoor(s) to law school admission. List 'em.

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 3:12 am
by A'nold
I would answer but now that I know you are the dean of YLS I am nervous that you will release your wrath.

Re: Backdoor(s) to law school admission. List 'em.

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 3:20 am
by Ragged
Hmm... Most things have already been listed, so I'm gonna go with a more radical alternative: found a law school and admit yourself.

A'nold wrote:I would answer but now that I know you are the dean of YLS I am nervous that you will release your wrath. And your wrath is all white and sti--- oh..... that's not your wrath.
What the hell. I'm not scared. Especially, since its obvious PN has a sense of humor.

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Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 3:54 am
by pugalicious
calicocat wrote:Loose morals leading to promiscuity
Any specifics? Where should someone (ahem, not me, you know, my friend, yeah...my friend) direct this promiscuity? : )

Re: Backdoor(s) to law school admission. List 'em.

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 3:03 pm
by Sergio454
Legacy status, from what I remember, was a big deal for undergrad. But how big a role does it play in law school admissions?

Re: Backdoor(s) to law school admission. List 'em.

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 3:20 pm
by Scooter
Get your JD at York University (Osgoode) in Ontario, Canada. Then get your LLM at NYU.

http://www.law.nyu.edu/llmjsd/llmnewyor ... /index.htm

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Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 3:23 pm
by cardnal124
Just start showing up to classes.

Re: Backdoor(s) to law school admission. List 'em.

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 3:43 pm
by tinman
Sergio454 wrote:Legacy status, from what I remember, was a big deal for undergrad. But how big a role does it play in law school admissions?
I don't know, but an alarming number of YLS students had parents who went here. Not sure whether they get a legacy boast. I would hope not. Not such a big fan of such injustices. As if having wealthy, well educated parents who could give advice about gaining admission to top law schools was not enough, legacies get admitted with LOWER stats. Wouldn't you think, in a just world, legacies would be required to have better stats to gain admission?

I suppose when I am a parent I may not mind all the unfair advantages I can give to my children, but I'm not quite at that point yet.

Re: Backdoor(s) to law school admission. List 'em.

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 3:46 pm
by r6_philly
tinman wrote:
Sergio454 wrote:Legacy status, from what I remember, was a big deal for undergrad. But how big a role does it play in law school admissions?
I don't know, but an alarming number of YLS students had parents who went here. Not sure whether they get a legacy boast. I would hope not. Not such a big fan of such injustices. As if having wealthy, well educated parents who could give advice about gaining admission to top law schools was not enough, legacies get admitted with LOWER stats. Wouldn't you think, in a just world, legacies would be required to have better stats to gain admission?

I suppose when I am a parent I may not mind all the unfair advantages I can give to my children, but I'm not quite at that point yet.
I will give my son any advantage I can give him. I will preferraby not cause anyone injury in doing so, but doesn't any advantage you gain in life deprive someone else to some degree? It seems unavoidable.

Re: Backdoor(s) to law school admission. List 'em.

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 3:46 pm
by APimpNamedSlickback
lmao at a poster named "Peter North" asking about the "backdoor" to law school admissions.

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Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 3:56 pm
by cardnal124
r6_philly wrote:
tinman wrote:
Sergio454 wrote:Legacy status, from what I remember, was a big deal for undergrad. But how big a role does it play in law school admissions?
I don't know, but an alarming number of YLS students had parents who went here. Not sure whether they get a legacy boast. I would hope not. Not such a big fan of such injustices. As if having wealthy, well educated parents who could give advice about gaining admission to top law schools was not enough, legacies get admitted with LOWER stats. Wouldn't you think, in a just world, legacies would be required to have better stats to gain admission?

I suppose when I am a parent I may not mind all the unfair advantages I can give to my children, but I'm not quite at that point yet.
I will give my son any advantage I can give him. I will preferraby not cause anyone injury in doing so, but doesn't any advantage you gain in life deprive someone else to some degree? It seems unavoidable.
Any parent (it seems) would try to give their child any advantage possible. I think the bigger point here is that adcoms, especially at HYS, shouldn't give those legacies an advantage, since they have probably already had every advantage given to them in terms of choice of college, tutors, prep classes for the LSAT, etc, as well as a knowledge of the admissions process. In this way they are the anti-URM, as tinman was getting at saying they should need better stats for admission. I just think that they should be judged without regard to their legacy status.

Re: Backdoor(s) to law school admission. List 'em.

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 3:58 pm
by r6_philly
Move to Virginia prior to applying then apply ED?

Re: Backdoor(s) to law school admission. List 'em.

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 4:04 pm
by r6_philly
cardnal124 wrote:
Any parent (it seems) would try to give their child any advantage possible. I think the bigger point here is that adcoms, especially at HYS, shouldn't give those legacies an advantage, since they have probably already had every advantage given to them in terms of choice of college, tutors, prep classes for the LSAT, etc, as well as a knowledge of the admissions process. In this way they are the anti-URM, as tinman was getting at saying they should need better stats for admission. I just think that they should be judged without regard to their legacy status.
If extra donations can create extra seats in class which would otherwise not be available (without the donations due to expectation of legacy consideration) why should they not at least assign some of those seats to legacy admits?

If a legacy admit is not otherwise qualified, he/she would end up in the bottom half of the class actually giving the non-legacy admits a boost in class ranking.

Re: Backdoor(s) to law school admission. List 'em.

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 4:53 pm
by Columbia Law
Fordham Law School pt.

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Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 5:32 pm
by tomhobbes
tinman wrote:
Sergio454 wrote:Legacy status, from what I remember, was a big deal for undergrad. But how big a role does it play in law school admissions?
I don't know, but an alarming number of YLS students had parents who went here. Not sure whether they get a legacy boast. I would hope not. Not such a big fan of such injustices. As if having wealthy, well educated parents who could give advice about gaining admission to top law schools was not enough, legacies get admitted with LOWER stats. Wouldn't you think, in a just world, legacies would be required to have better stats to gain admission?

I suppose when I am a parent I may not mind all the unfair advantages I can give to my children, but I'm not quite at that point yet.
Just out of curiosity, are there any sons or daughters of famous people there right now? And what percentage of YLS students come from Ivies and other elite schools?

Re: Backdoor(s) to law school admission. List 'em.

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 5:35 pm
by Arrow
Transferring is also considered a back door into law schools, right? =P

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Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 5:36 pm
by wired
Threatening to sue because you have a disability.