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2010 SUBSTANTIAL Law School Rankings

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 5:58 pm
by Columbia Law
I am putting together a "top law schools" list. This is going to be like the Ring Magazine Rankings for boxing--the official word. It take into account all of the important factors that should be taken into account when ranking law schools. This will be annual.

1. University of Pennsylvania
2. Columbia University
3. New York University
4. Stanford University
5. UC Berkeley
6. University of Chicago
7. University of Michigan
8. Yale University
9. Harvard University
10. Georgetown University
10. Fordham University
10. Duke University
13. University of Virginia
14. University of Notre Dame
15. Cornell University
16. Northwestern
17. Boston College
18. University of Texas
19. Washington U
20. USC

Re: 2010 SUBSTANTIAL Law School Rankings

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 6:02 pm
by annapavlova
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Re: 2010 SUBSTANTIAL Law School Rankings

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 6:05 pm
by General Tso
u forgot Cooley....biggest law library in the world

Re: 2010 SUBSTANTIAL Law School Rankings

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 6:05 pm
by erniesto
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Re: 2010 SUBSTANTIAL Law School Rankings

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 6:07 pm
by reasonable_man
I'm just going to sit here and watch....

Re: 2010 SUBSTANTIAL Law School Rankings

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 6:08 pm
by stratocophic
Columbia Law wrote:I am putting together a "top law schools" list. This is going to be like the Ring Magazine Rankings for boxing--the official word. It take into account all of the important factors that should be taken into account when ranking law schools. This will be annual.

1. University of Pennsylvania
2. Columbia University
3. New York University
4. Stanford University
5. UC Berkeley
6. University of Chicago
7. University of Michigan
8. Yale University
9. Harvard University
10. Georgetown University
10. Fordham University
10. Duke University
13. University of Virginia
14. University of Notre Dame
15. Cornell University
16. Northwestern
17. Boston College
18. University of Texas
19. Washington U
20. USC
Disgusting anti-Vandy trolling

Re: 2010 SUBSTANTIAL Law School Rankings

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 6:10 pm
by pu_golf88
So do you go to Fordham or ND?

Re: 2010 SUBSTANTIAL Law School Rankings

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 6:12 pm
by kaydish21
You got me into the t10!

lolz

Re: 2010 SUBSTANTIAL Law School Rankings

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 6:13 pm
by los blancos
pu_golf88 wrote:So do you go to Fordham or ND?
BTFU

Re: 2010 SUBSTANTIAL Law School Rankings

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 6:15 pm
by Billy Blanks
Did I miss the "March 24th Flame Day" announcement? Seriously, TLS...

Re: 2010 SUBSTANTIAL Law School Rankings

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 6:15 pm
by wired
pu_golf88 wrote:So do you go to Fordham or ND?
He's a Catholic attending Fordham.

Re: 2010 SUBSTANTIAL Law School Rankings

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 6:15 pm
by Columbia Law
pu_golf88 wrote:So do you go to Fordham or ND?
My screen name says it all. This list was derived from statistics that actually matter.

Re: 2010 SUBSTANTIAL Law School Rankings

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 6:17 pm
by Sangiovese
First page in epic thread!

Re: 2010 SUBSTANTIAL Law School Rankings

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 6:18 pm
by los blancos
wired wrote:
pu_golf88 wrote:So do you go to Fordham or ND?
He's a Catholic attending Fordham.
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Re: 2010 SUBSTANTIAL Law School Rankings

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 6:19 pm
by los blancos
Columbia Law wrote:
pu_golf88 wrote:So do you go to Fordham or ND?
My screen name says it all. This list was derived from statistics that actually matter.
Lemme guess. The two criteria are geographic names and proximity to NYC.

Do I get a cookie?

Re: 2010 SUBSTANTIAL Law School Rankings

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 6:21 pm
by sarlis
errrrrrr, what:

tOSU is not in the top ten.

Re: 2010 SUBSTANTIAL Law School Rankings

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 6:26 pm
by 98234872348
Columbia Law wrote:
pu_golf88 wrote:So do you go to Fordham or ND?
My screen name says it all. This list was derived from statistics that actually matter.
Care to elaborate?

Re: 2010 SUBSTANTIAL Law School Rankings

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 6:34 pm
by CanadianWolf
The National Law Journal recently (February 22 or 24, 2010) released the results of its annual survey of law school hires by the largest 250 law firms in the nation:

1) Northwestern
2) Columbia
3) Stanford
4) Chicago
5) Virginia
6) Michigan
7) Penn
8) NYU
9) Berkeley
10) Duke

The above list is arguably the single most important factor with respect to law school ratings & rankings. Another important consideration should be student:teacher ratio for which the top three are Yale, Stanford & Northwestern.

Re: 2010 SUBSTANTIAL Law School Rankings

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 6:39 pm
by BioEBear2010
CanadianWolf wrote:The National Law Journal recently (February 22 or 24, 2010) released the results of its annual survey of law school hires by the largest 250 law firms in the nation:

1) Northwestern
2) Columbia
3) Stanford
4) Chicago
5) Virginia
6) Michigan
7) Penn
8) NYU
9) Berkeley
10) Duke

The above list is arguably the single most important factor with respect to law school ratings & rankings. Another important consideration should be student:teacher ratio for which the top three are Yale, Stanford & Northwestern.
If you want to use this methodology you really need to include clerkships as well. Schools such as Yale, Harvard, Chicago, and Stanford have a ton of students who end up clerking after graduation in lieu of working as an attorney.

Re: 2010 SUBSTANTIAL Law School Rankings

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 6:40 pm
by lawduder
CanadianWolf wrote:The National Law Journal recently (February 22 or 24, 2010) released the results of its annual survey of law school hires by the largest 250 law firms in the nation:

1) Northwestern
2) Columbia
3) Stanford
4) Chicago
5) Virginia
6) Michigan
7) Penn
8) NYU
9) Berkeley
10) Duke

The above list is arguably the [strike]single[/strike] most important factor with respect to law school ratings & rankings if you want to work in a major market at one of the nations top 250 largest firms. Another important consideration should be student:teacher ratio for which the top three are Yale, Stanford & Northwestern.

Re: 2010 SUBSTANTIAL Law School Rankings

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 3:57 am
by crackberry
Some people are so stupid.

Re: 2010 SUBSTANTIAL Law School Rankings

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 7:37 am
by TTH
sarlis wrote:errrrrrr, what:

tOSU is not in the top ten.
A criminal omission, I say.

Re: 2010 SUBSTANTIAL Law School Rankings

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 7:46 am
by badfish
CanadianWolf wrote:The National Law Journal recently (February 22 or 24, 2010) released the results of its annual survey of law school hires by the largest 250 law firms in the nation:

1) Northwestern
2) Columbia
3) Stanford
4) Chicago
5) Virginia
6) Michigan
7) Penn
8) NYU
9) Berkeley
10) Duke

The above list is arguably the single most important factor with respect to law school ratings & rankings. Another important consideration should be student:teacher ratio for which the top three are Yale, Stanford & Northwestern.
I don't understand the metric. Is this by how many attorneys have been hired from these various schools? Is it by % of the class? Is it by perceptions of the hires?

Or am I just being flamed?

Re: 2010 SUBSTANTIAL Law School Rankings

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 7:56 am
by blsingindisguise
CanadianWolf wrote:The National Law Journal recently (February 22 or 24, 2010) released the results of its annual survey of law school hires by the largest 250 law firms in the nation:

1) Northwestern
2) Columbia
3) Stanford
4) Chicago
5) Virginia
6) Michigan
7) Penn
8) NYU
9) Berkeley
10) Duke

The above list is arguably the single most important factor with respect to law school ratings & rankings. Another important consideration should be student:teacher ratio for which the top three are Yale, Stanford & Northwestern.
The reason schools like Yale and Harvard have lower NLJ 250 #s is that they have MORE options, not fewer -- i.e. not all of them want biglaw and they can get other things like prestigious clerkships more easily. I'd be surprised if there is a single person at Yale, Harvard or Stanford who couldn't find a job in an NLJ 250 if they wanted it.

Re: 2010 SUBSTANTIAL Law School Rankings

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 8:09 am
by rando
badfish wrote:
CanadianWolf wrote:The National Law Journal recently (February 22 or 24, 2010) released the results of its annual survey of law school hires by the largest 250 law firms in the nation:

1) Northwestern
2) Columbia
3) Stanford
4) Chicago
5) Virginia
6) Michigan
7) Penn
8) NYU
9) Berkeley
10) Duke

The above list is arguably the single most important factor with respect to law school ratings & rankings. Another important consideration should be student:teacher ratio for which the top three are Yale, Stanford & Northwestern.
I don't understand the metric. Is this by how many attorneys have been hired from these various schools? Is it by % of the class? Is it by perceptions of the hires?

Or am I just being flamed?
It is based on percentage of LS class hired. and these stats have been dissected in other threads. and they are also not current to the recession hiring cycle.