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LSAC GPA surprise; Non-Transferable Credits don't count?!?

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 7:55 pm
by completing
After 3 weeks of waiting, all of my transcripts have been processed and I'm able to access Academic Summary Report.

Surprisingly, my LSAC GPA is 0.03 points higher than what I expected.

Undergraduate Summary
Degree (Summary) GPA: 4.09
Cumulative GPA: 4.04 (I was expecting 4.01)

From what I've read from previous posts, LSAC counts ALL previous courses.

So, I thought LSAC miss-counted grades.

I was carefully going through my transcripts and the report.

Then, when I saw the 'Total Semester Hours', I realized it only counted the credits that had been transferred.

Before I transferred, I took 2 non-transferable courses, one of which I got B. The only B in my entire college life.

I despised my teacher for giving me B when I was only 0.00000001% points short of A.

I guess it didn't matter after all.

No more hatred for my teacher :P

Re: LSAC GPA surprise; Non-Transferable Credits don't count?!?

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 11:32 pm
by traehekat
Cool story, bro. :mrgreen:

Re: LSAC GPA surprise; Non-Transferable Credits don't count?!?

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 11:37 pm
by bees
stfugtfo

Re: LSAC GPA surprise; Non-Transferable Credits don't count?!?

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 5:40 am
by completing
bees wrote:stfugtfo
ummm... Did LSAC hammered down on your GPA?

Re: LSAC GPA surprise; Non-Transferable Credits don't count?!?

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 3:47 pm
by bees
completing wrote:
bees wrote:stfugtfo
ummm... Did LSAC hammered down on your GPA?
Nope. My GPA was fine. It might have dropped like .01 but I'm not sure. You have a 4.0+ so enjoy it and keep it to yourself. God forbid you might have only had a 4.1.

Re: LSAC GPA surprise; Non-Transferable Credits don't count?!?

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 3:49 pm
by JollyGreenGiant
Cool, yo. But I doubt a difference in any number above 4 is going to have any difference in the admissions process.

Re: LSAC GPA surprise; Non-Transferable Credits don't count?!?

Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 4:26 pm
by SimplyC26
Does anyone have any further information on this? From 01-05 I took around 80 hours at a college and ended up with a 2.2. I took two years off, and enrolled at a different college in the fall of 07. However, of the 80 hours that I had amassed previously, only 9 transferred to my current school. This is huge because my degree gpa is set to be around a 3.8. (After this semester I will have accumulated 98 hours at my current school)

Re: LSAC GPA surprise; Non-Transferable Credits don't count?!?

Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 4:31 pm
by r6_philly
SimplyC26 wrote:Does anyone have any further information on this? From 01-05 I took around 80 hours at a college and ended up with a 2.2. I took two years off, and enrolled at a different college in the fall of 07. However, of the 80 hours that I had amassed previously, only 9 transferred to my current school. This is huge because my degree gpa is set to be around a 3.8. (After this semester I will have accumulated 98 hours at my current school)
Your GPA will most likely get hammered. "non-transferrable" is not "was not transferred". It depends on the course. If it is a college level course that "can" be transferred but did not then it will still count, most likely. I think most classes that don't count are remedial or other classes that are not considered college level credit courses.

Re: LSAC GPA surprise; Non-Transferable Credits don't count?!?

Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 4:33 pm
by SimplyC26
r6_philly wrote:
SimplyC26 wrote:Does anyone have any further information on this? From 01-05 I took around 80 hours at a college and ended up with a 2.2. I took two years off, and enrolled at a different college in the fall of 07. However, of the 80 hours that I had amassed previously, only 9 transferred to my current school. This is huge because my degree gpa is set to be around a 3.8. (After this semester I will have accumulated 98 hours at my current school)
Your GPA will most likely get hammered. "non-transferrable" is not "was not transferred". It depends on the course. If it is a college level course that "can" be transferred but did not then it will still count, most likely. I think most classes that don't count are remedial or other classes that are not considered college level credit courses.

+1 Oh well :cry: Thanks for the response. Yeah I'm sure its going to get hammered. According to lawschoolpredictor, it will be a bit above a 3.1

Re: LSAC GPA surprise; Non-Transferable Credits don't count?!?

Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 4:35 pm
by holydonkey
completing wrote:Before I transferred, I took 2 non-transferable courses, one of which I got B. The only B in my entire college life.

I despised my teacher for giving me B when I was only 0.00000001% points short of A.

I guess it didn't matter after all.
Oh, it still matters. I bet that professor still laughs about it every night. ha ha ha. ha ha ha. Always laughing at your B. ha ha ha. ha ha ha. They sit in their chair and ask, "remember when I gave that kid a B, hon?" And their spouse responds, "sure do! what a rube!!!"

And rightfully so. Seriously, who gets a B?

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Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 4:42 pm
by Grizz
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Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 4:43 pm
by HERetICal
I have grades from when I was in HS from a summer enrichment program at the community college. They weren't transferred to my undergraduate institution, but I submitted transcripts from the community college to LSAC because LSAC requested all transcripts.

Their inclusion significantly affected my GPA, and not in a positive manner.

Any clue whether addressing this situation in an addendum would be a good move, or am I just whining and similar things have happened to many others?

Thanks.

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Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 4:43 pm
by calicocat
lol, are you just bragging?

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Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 4:44 pm
by bees
HERetICal wrote:I have grades from when I was in HS from a summer enrichment program at the community college. They weren't transferred to my undergraduate institution, but I submitted transcripts from the community college to LSAC because LSAC requested all transcripts.

Their inclusion significantly affected my GPA, and not in a positive manner.

Any clue whether addressing this situation in an addendum would be a good move, or am I just whining and similar things have happened to many others?

Thanks.
whining

Re: LSAC GPA surprise; Non-Transferable Credits don't count?!?

Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 4:44 pm
by HERetICal
bees wrote:
HERetICal wrote:I have grades from when I was in HS from a summer enrichment program at the community college. They weren't transferred to my undergraduate institution, but I submitted transcripts from the community college to LSAC because LSAC requested all transcripts.

Their inclusion significantly affected my GPA, and not in a positive manner.

Any clue whether addressing this situation in an addendum would be a good move, or am I just whining and similar things have happened to many others?

Thanks.
whining
figured. Thanks!

Re: LSAC GPA surprise; Non-Transferable Credits don't count?!?

Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 4:45 pm
by pollaclc
wish i had the same story. or that i worked harder in classes elsewhere that my university wouldn't accept grades from (read: that i knew LSAC would count them & thusly worked harder)

Re: LSAC GPA surprise; Non-Transferable Credits don't count?!?

Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 4:55 pm
by rayiner
completing wrote:After 3 weeks of waiting, all of my transcripts have been processed and I'm able to access Academic Summary Report.

Surprisingly, my LSAC GPA is 0.03 points higher than what I expected.

Undergraduate Summary
Degree (Summary) GPA: 4.09
Cumulative GPA: 4.04 (I was expecting 4.01)

From what I've read from previous posts, LSAC counts ALL previous courses.

So, I thought LSAC miss-counted grades.

I was carefully going through my transcripts and the report.

Then, when I saw the 'Total Semester Hours', I realized it only counted the credits that had been transferred.

Before I transferred, I took 2 non-transferable courses, one of which I got B. The only B in my entire college life.

I despised my teacher for giving me B when I was only 0.00000001% points short of A.

I guess it didn't matter after all.

No more hatred for my teacher :P
If you've never gotten a B, you probably didn't do a major hard enough to warrant bragging about having a 4.0+. HTH.

Re: LSAC GPA surprise; Non-Transferable Credits don't count?!?

Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 5:04 pm
by r6_philly
rayiner wrote: If you've never gotten a B, you probably didn't do a major hard enough to warrant bragging about having a 4.0+. HTH.
not always true

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Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 5:22 pm
by Tangerine Gleam
completing wrote: ummm... Did LSAC hammered down on your GPA?
Spoken like a true 4.04.

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Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 5:23 pm
by HBK
Tell me about it, LSAC completely changed my grades too. I went from a 5.2 to a 8.7.

Re: LSAC GPA surprise; Non-Transferable Credits don't count?!?

Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 6:53 pm
by rayiner
r6_philly wrote:
rayiner wrote: If you've never gotten a B, you probably didn't do a major hard enough to warrant bragging about having a 4.0+. HTH.
not always true
Hence the "probably".

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Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 7:07 pm
by CMDantes
holydonkey wrote:
completing wrote:Before I transferred, I took 2 non-transferable courses, one of which I got B. The only B in my entire college life.

I despised my teacher for giving me B when I was only 0.00000001% points short of A.

I guess it didn't matter after all.
Oh, it still matters. I bet that professor still laughs about it every night. ha ha ha. ha ha ha. Always laughing at your B. ha ha ha. ha ha ha. They sit in their chair and ask, "remember when I gave that kid a B, hon?" And their spouse responds, "sure do! what a rube!!!"

And rightfully so. Seriously, who gets a B?
+1000

I laughed at this, freaking kid bragging his 4.0

Re: LSAC GPA surprise; Non-Transferable Credits don't count?!?

Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 8:36 pm
by r6_philly
rayiner wrote:
r6_philly wrote:
rayiner wrote: If you've never gotten a B, you probably didn't do a major hard enough to warrant bragging about having a 4.0+. HTH.
not always true
Hence the "probably".
But you are implying that he belongs in the "probably". It's ok, the kid got a 4+, let him brag.

I would have said something along the lines of why couldn't he had earned all A+. 4.04 is like 3.9 out of 4 or something.

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Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 8:32 am
by completing
r6_philly wrote:
rayiner wrote:
r6_philly wrote:
rayiner wrote: If you've never gotten a B, you probably didn't do a major hard enough to warrant bragging about having a 4.0+. HTH.
not always true
Hence the "probably".
But you are implying that he belongs in the "probably". It's ok, the kid got a 4+, let him brag.

I would have said something along the lines of why couldn't he had earned all A+. 4.04 is like 3.9 out of 4 or something.

I majored Economics which is not a BS major like business or film studies.

I couldn't get all A+ because not all professors give out A+ even though it's on a grading scheme.

In one class, I was the only who got 100% on all tests and problem sets, and I still ended up with A. So, there it is.

Re: LSAC GPA surprise; Non-Transferable Credits don't count?!?

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 8:44 am
by completing
CMDantes wrote:
holydonkey wrote:
completing wrote:Before I transferred, I took 2 non-transferable courses, one of which I got B. The only B in my entire college life.

I despised my teacher for giving me B when I was only 0.00000001% points short of A.

I guess it didn't matter after all.
Oh, it still matters. I bet that professor still laughs about it every night. ha ha ha. ha ha ha. Always laughing at your B. ha ha ha. ha ha ha. They sit in their chair and ask, "remember when I gave that kid a B, hon?" And their spouse responds, "sure do! what a rube!!!"

And rightfully so. Seriously, who gets a B?
+1000

I laughed at this, freaking kid bragging his 4.0

I thought I'd be getting lower LSAC GPA because a lot of members in this forum just say "all grades counts with no exception"

It was quite a surprise for me when I saw the report. So, I wanted to share the story with others.

Sorry if you think I was bragging. But please don't be a jackass.