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BU v WUSTL v Vandy

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 11:16 pm
by dnesto01
Thoughts on the best school for Big Law in NY, DC, Boston?

Re: BU v WUSTL v Vandy

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 11:28 pm
by holydonkey
Vandy OCI (2008)

NY firms 52
DC firms 42
MA firms ?

BU OCI (2008)

NY firms 54
DC firms 20
MA firms ?

WUSTL OCI (2008)

NY firms 14
DC firms 14
MA firms ?


I'm going to go out on a limb here and say BU is probably best for Boston. Vandy and BU may be about the same for NYC, and Vandy might beat BU for DC. Doesn't look like WUSTL is the clear winner in any of these markets.

Really between BU and Vandy for NYC, I'd say personal preference (I know others will disagree and say BU). For DC, I personally believe Vandy is the better option (again, others might disagree).

Re: BU v WUSTL v Vandy

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 11:29 pm
by Joga Bonito
Well obviously the best school for Boston is BU, i don't imagine Vandy and Wustl sending a lot of people to Boston.I like Wustl more than BU but BU will probably be the best for your situation if Boston is one of the places you would like to practice.

Re: BU v WUSTL v Vandy

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 11:32 pm
by dnesto01
Really? I always thought that Vandy was more highly regarded (especially in NY than BU). Also I would probably go to BC over BU since they both do equally well in Boston and BU's building is just depressing.

Re: BU v WUSTL v Vandy

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 11:37 pm
by holydonkey
I'd choose BU over BC, but they're about the same. Something else to keep in mind about placement/OCI stats - Vandy is about 40% smaller than BU and still manages to pull about the same number of firms for NYC. For me, this is an indication that you're right and it's stronger there.

Re: BU v WUSTL v Vandy

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 11:39 pm
by Joga Bonito
holydonkey wrote:Vandy OCI (2008)

NY firms 52
DC firms 42
MA firms ?

BU OCI (2008)

NY firms 54
DC firms 20
MA firms ?

WUSTL OCI (2008)

NY firms 14
DC firms 14
MA firms ?


I'm going to go out on a limb here and say BU is probably best for Boston. Vandy and BU may be about the same for NYC, and Vandy might beat BU for DC. Doesn't look like WUSTL is the clear winner in any of these markets.

Really between BU and Vandy for NYC, I'd say personal preference (I know others will disagree and say BU). For DC, I personally believe Vandy is the better option (again, others might disagree).
I think that the above statistics about Wustl are wrong where did you get those from?

Re: BU v WUSTL v Vandy

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 11:40 pm
by holydonkey
Joga Bonito wrote:
holydonkey wrote:Vandy OCI (2008)

NY firms 52
DC firms 42
MA firms ?

BU OCI (2008)

NY firms 54
DC firms 20
MA firms ?

WUSTL OCI (2008)

NY firms 14
DC firms 14
MA firms ?


I'm going to go out on a limb here and say BU is probably best for Boston. Vandy and BU may be about the same for NYC, and Vandy might beat BU for DC. Doesn't look like WUSTL is the clear winner in any of these markets.

Really between BU and Vandy for NYC, I'd say personal preference (I know others will disagree and say BU). For DC, I personally believe Vandy is the better option (again, others might disagree).
I think that the above statistics about Wustl are wrong where did you get those from?
LSN - http://washu.lawschoolnumbers.com/

Re: BU v WUSTL v Vandy

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 11:42 pm
by badwithpseudonyms
holydonkey wrote:Vandy OCI (2008)

NY firms 52
DC firms 42
MA firms ?

BU OCI (2008)

NY firms 54
DC firms 20
MA firms ?

WUSTL OCI (2008)

NY firms 14
DC firms 14
MA firms ?


I'm going to go out on a limb here and say BU is probably best for Boston. Vandy and BU may be about the same for NYC, and Vandy might beat BU for DC. Doesn't look like WUSTL is the clear winner in any of these markets.

Really between BU and Vandy for NYC, I'd say personal preference (I know others will disagree and say BU). For DC, I personally believe Vandy is the better option (again, others might disagree).

/thread.

well done, sir.

Re: BU v WUSTL v Vandy

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 11:47 pm
by galahad85
BU for Boston, Vandy for anywhere else.

Re: BU v WUSTL v Vandy

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 11:51 pm
by dnesto01
Do people say Vandy is bad for Boston just because the majority of the people that go there just end up not wanting to go to Boston? I mean if you did well at Vandy (top 10-15%) I am sure you could get a job at a top Boston firm if you applied right?

Re: BU v WUSTL v Vandy

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 11:55 pm
by galahad85
dnesto01 wrote:Do people say Vandy is bad for Boston just because the majority of the people that go there just end up not wanting to go to Boston? I mean if you did well at Vandy (top 10-15%) I am sure you could get a job at a top Boston firm if you applied right?
I don't think anyone is saying that Vandy is bad for Boston. It's just that BU obviously has the home court advantage. I'd imagine it gets far more Boston firms at OCI, and you would have better networking opportunities in the city. Getting a Boston job from Vandy would just take a little more legwork, that's all.

Re: BU v WUSTL v Vandy

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 11:57 pm
by dnesto01
That is what I figured. Just not really in love with BU and want to end up in the Northeast at some point so am trying to justify Vandy!

Re: BU v WUSTL v Vandy

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 12:01 am
by holydonkey
dnesto01 wrote:That is what I figured. Just not really in love with BU and want to end up in the Northeast at some point so am trying to justify Vandy!
Go to Vandy.

You should really go to the school you want. If you get into a big firm in DC or Atlanta, you can always transfer. Also, the South rocks. :)

Re: BU v WUSTL v Vandy

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 12:03 am
by galahad85
holydonkey wrote:
dnesto01 wrote:That is what I figured. Just not really in love with BU and want to end up in the Northeast at some point so am trying to justify Vandy!
Go to Vandy.

You should really go to the school you want. If you get into a big firm in DC or Atlanta, you can always transfer. Also, the South rocks. :)
+1

(well, except maybe on the "South rocks" part - never been there myself)

Re: BU v WUSTL v Vandy

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 12:05 am
by BruceBarr
dnesto01 wrote:That is what I figured. Just not really in love with BU and want to end up in the Northeast at some point so am trying to justify Vandy!
And also, in Boston you have BC and Harvard. Even Northeastern. Those are all good schools. It is a very well-fed area. The whole east coast is in general... so that's why a lot of Vandy kids head left on I-80. Or maybe they would take 66...

Re: BU v WUSTL v Vandy

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 12:09 am
by Joga Bonito
galahad85 wrote:
holydonkey wrote:
dnesto01 wrote:That is what I figured. Just not really in love with BU and want to end up in the Northeast at some point so am trying to justify Vandy!
Go to Vandy.

You should really go to the school you want. If you get into a big firm in DC or Atlanta, you can always transfer. Also, the South rocks. :)
+1

(well, except maybe on the "South rocks" part - never been there myself)
+1..I've been there...and uhhh....culturally not a fan...but the scenery is nice...all the trees and stuff...two parts are exceptions Atlanta and southern florida which doesn't count.

Re: BU v WUSTL v Vandy

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 12:11 am
by BruceBarr
Joga Bonito wrote:
galahad85 wrote:
holydonkey wrote:
dnesto01 wrote:That is what I figured. Just not really in love with BU and want to end up in the Northeast at some point so am trying to justify Vandy!
Go to Vandy.

You should really go to the school you want. If you get into a big firm in DC or Atlanta, you can always transfer. Also, the South rocks. :)
+1

(well, except maybe on the "South rocks" part - never been there myself)
+1..I've been there...and uhhh....culturally not a fan...but the scenery is nice...all the trees and stuff...two parts are exceptions Atlanta and southern florida which doesn't count.

guys... the south sucks.

but Nashville is awesome. I HATE country music... and even I like the bars that play ONLY country music. Nashville is just an awesome time.

Re: BU v WUSTL v Vandy

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 12:15 am
by dnesto01
I'm really excited to visit...Vandy reimburses $200 for travel for all admits right?

Re: BU v WUSTL v Vandy

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 12:15 am
by BruceBarr
dnesto01 wrote:I'm really excited to visit...Vandy reimburses $200 for travel for all admits right?
Like most schools, it depends on where you are traveling from.

Re: BU v WUSTL v Vandy

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 12:16 am
by galahad85
dnesto01 wrote:I'm really excited to visit...Vandy reimburses $200 for travel for all admits right?
Yep. I can't wait to visit. It's just too bad that the only ASW I can make it to (April 9) is so close to the deposit deadline.

Re: BU v WUSTL v Vandy

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 12:17 am
by galahad85
BruceBarr wrote:
dnesto01 wrote:I'm really excited to visit...Vandy reimburses $200 for travel for all admits right?
Like most schools, it depends on where you are traveling from.
Really? I know that most schools do it that way, but I thought it was always $200 for Vanderbilt.

Re: BU v WUSTL v Vandy

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 12:18 am
by holydonkey
galahad85 wrote:
dnesto01 wrote:I'm really excited to visit...Vandy reimburses $200 for travel for all admits right?
Yep. I can't wait to visit. It's just too bad that the only ASW I can make it to (April 9) is so close to the deposit deadline.
See you guys there if you're there on April 9!

Also, something to keep in mind, WUSTL has a first deposit deadline of April 1. Which sucks. Bad.

Re: BU v WUSTL v Vandy

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 12:19 am
by BruceBarr
galahad85 wrote:
BruceBarr wrote:
dnesto01 wrote:I'm really excited to visit...Vandy reimburses $200 for travel for all admits right?
Like most schools, it depends on where you are traveling from.
Really? I know that most schools do it that way, but I thought it was always $200 for Vanderbilt.
I may be wrong... I looked into it as a big loop (starting at Michigan (home), through Nashville, up the east coast and back) and I may just be piling Vandy into the figures in my head...

Re: BU v WUSTL v Vandy

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 12:22 am
by galahad85
holydonkey wrote:
galahad85 wrote:
dnesto01 wrote:I'm really excited to visit...Vandy reimburses $200 for travel for all admits right?
Yep. I can't wait to visit. It's just too bad that the only ASW I can make it to (April 9) is so close to the deposit deadline.
See you guys there if you're there on April 9!

Also, something to keep in mind, WUSTL has a first deposit deadline of April 1. Which sucks. Bad.
Damn.

I like that Georgetown has a May 3 deadline. All schools should be like that.

Re: BU v WUSTL v Vandy

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 12:36 am
by badwithpseudonyms
galahad85 wrote:
holydonkey wrote:Also, something to keep in mind, WUSTL has a first deposit deadline of April 1. Which sucks. Bad.
Damn.

I like that Georgetown has a May 3 deadline. All schools should be like that.
For any school where you are WL then accepted, you can just send them a letter explaining that you have many other competitive offers from very strong candidate-schools and that this is the most offers you have ever been extended. Thus, you are unable to make a decision on whether you will be placing a seat deposit at their school and if they would like you to possibly make a seat deposit in the coming months they should send you a letter by [arbitrary date] notifying you of their intention to continue to wait on you to make a decision.
:mrgreen: