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If you attend a school labeled "Ivy," is there some kind of a reward upon graduation? I thought Ivy just meant "one of the oldest schools in America." Am I missing something here? What's the big deal?

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[1L]Hopeful wrote:If you attend a school labeled "Ivy," is there some kind of a reward upon graduation? I thought Ivy just meant "one of the oldest schools in America." Am I missing something here? What's the big deal?

In terms of lay prestige, "ivy" is pretty up there... "One of the oldest schools in America" actually means a lot. Long ago, in the United States, and even in Europe, only the wealthiest people (consequently the most educated) went to study at a university. These people would then become among the wealthiest people in the country, who would offer a boat load of endowments to the universities that they've attended. Having a lot of money does wonders for a school.. you'll be able to fund research, attract the brightest scholars/students, etc. So I suppose that the "oldest schools in America" had a head start in this process, which is why they're considered one of the best schools for a person to go to.

Although schools like Stanford are relatively new, the founder of the school invested all his money into getting it all started (after getting rejected from Harvard for a deal that he was trying to pull on getting one of his family members' name on one of their buildings).

Please forgive my crappy English.

EDIT: I thought I'd include this as well:

Harvard Endowment: 60 billion
Yale: 40 billion
My undergraduate University (Large Public): 1 billion.

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EdmundBurke23 wrote:

[1L]Hopeful wrote:If you attend a school labeled "Ivy," is there some kind of a reward upon graduation? I thought Ivy just meant "one of the oldest schools in America." Am I missing something here? What's the big deal?

In terms of lay prestige, "ivy" is pretty up there... "One of the oldest schools in America" actually means a lot. Long ago, in the United States, and even in Europe, only the wealthiest people (consequently the most educated) went to study at a university. These people would then become among the wealthiest people in the country, who would offer a boat load of endowments to the universities that they've attended. Having a lot of money does wonders for a school.. you'll be able to fund research, attract the brightest scholars/students, etc. So I suppose that the "oldest schools in America" had a head start in this process, which is why they're considered one of the best schools for a person to go to.

Although schools like Stanford are relatively new, the founder of the school invested all his money into getting it all started (after getting rejected from Harvard for a deal that he was trying to pull on getting one of his family members' name on one of their buildings).

Please forgive my crappy English.

EDIT: I thought I'd include this as well:

Harvard Endowment: 60 billion
Yale: 40 billion
My undergraduate University (Large Public): 1 billion.

Those endowment estimates are way off. Harvard is more like 40 billion and Yale is around 20. Also, outside of HYP, the endowments drop dramatically to numbers quite comparable to their non-Ivy peers. To be honest, outside of the Top 3, the Ivy distinction is very overblown. There are so many schools that are at least as impressive as most of the Ivies (Stanford, MIT, CalTech, Chicago, Duke, etc.) that often the distinction just seems like an attempt for non-HYP Ivies to associate themselves with the Big 3.

Oh yeah, and it's a sports conference.

AngryAvocado wrote:

EdmundBurke23 wrote:

[1L]Hopeful wrote:If you attend a school labeled "Ivy," is there some kind of a reward upon graduation? I thought Ivy just meant "one of the oldest schools in America." Am I missing something here? What's the big deal?

In terms of lay prestige, "ivy" is pretty up there... "One of the oldest schools in America" actually means a lot. Long ago, in the United States, and even in Europe, only the wealthiest people (consequently the most educated) went to study at a university. These people would then become among the wealthiest people in the country, who would offer a boat load of endowments to the universities that they've attended. Having a lot of money does wonders for a school.. you'll be able to fund research, attract the brightest scholars/students, etc. So I suppose that the "oldest schools in America" had a head start in this process, which is why they're considered one of the best schools for a person to go to.

Although schools like Stanford are relatively new, the founder of the school invested all his money into getting it all started (after getting rejected from Harvard for a deal that he was trying to pull on getting one of his family members' name on one of their buildings).

Please forgive my crappy English.

EDIT: I thought I'd include this as well:

Harvard Endowment: 60 billion
Yale: 40 billion
My undergraduate University (Large Public): 1 billion.

Those endowment estimates are way off. Harvard is more like 40 billion and Yale is around 20. Also, outside of HYP, the endowments drop dramatically to numbers quite comparable to their non-Ivy peers. To be honest, outside of the Top 3, the Ivy distinction is very overblown. There are so many schools that are at least as impressive as most of the Ivies (Stanford, MIT, CalTech, Chicago, Duke, etc.) that often the distinction just seems like an attempt for non-HYP Ivies to associate themselves with the Big 3.

Oh yeah, and it's a sports conference.

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AngryAvocado wrote:

EdmundBurke23 wrote:

[1L]Hopeful wrote:If you attend a school labeled "Ivy," is there some kind of a reward upon graduation? I thought Ivy just meant "one of the oldest schools in America." Am I missing something here? What's the big deal?

In terms of lay prestige, "ivy" is pretty up there... "One of the oldest schools in America" actually means a lot. Long ago, in the United States, and even in Europe, only the wealthiest people (consequently the most educated) went to study at a university. These people would then become among the wealthiest people in the country, who would offer a boat load of endowments to the universities that they've attended. Having a lot of money does wonders for a school.. you'll be able to fund research, attract the brightest scholars/students, etc. So I suppose that the "oldest schools in America" had a head start in this process, which is why they're considered one of the best schools for a person to go to.

Although schools like Stanford are relatively new, the founder of the school invested all his money into getting it all started (after getting rejected from Harvard for a deal that he was trying to pull on getting one of his family members' name on one of their buildings).

Please forgive my crappy English.

EDIT: I thought I'd include this as well:

Harvard Endowment: 60 billion
Yale: 40 billion
My undergraduate University (Large Public): 1 billion.

Those endowment estimates are way off. Harvard is more like 40 billion and Yale is around 20. Also, outside of HYP, the endowments drop dramatically to numbers quite comparable to their non-Ivy peers. To be honest, outside of the Top 3, the Ivy distinction is very overblown. There are so many schools that are at least as impressive as most of the Ivies (Stanford, MIT, CalTech, Chicago, Duke, etc.) that often the distinction just seems like an attempt for non-HYP Ivies to associate themselves with the Big 3.

Oh yeah, and it's a sports conference.

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AngryAvocado wrote:it's a sports conference.

And, really, not a very good one. You see better football at most high schools.

[1L]Hopeful wrote:If you attend a school labeled "Ivy," is there some kind of a reward upon graduation? I thought Ivy just meant "one of the oldest schools in America." Am I missing something here? What's the big deal?

Yes, it's called a job.

[1L]Hopeful wrote:If you attend a school labeled "Ivy," is there some kind of a reward upon graduation?

Yes. In addition to your JD you will receive a trophy.

Fancy Pants wrote:

[1L]Hopeful wrote:If you attend a school labeled "Ivy," is there some kind of a reward upon graduation?

Yes. In addition to your JD you will receive a trophy.

That does it! Now I am going to transfer to Cornell after 1L just like they told me to in their rejection letter - I WANT A TROPHY!

Halibut6 wrote:

Fancy Pants wrote:

[1L]Hopeful wrote:If you attend a school labeled "Ivy," is there some kind of a reward upon graduation?

Yes. In addition to your JD you will receive a trophy.

That does it! Now I am going to transfer to Cornell after 1L just like they told me to in their rejection letter - I WANT A TROPHY!

The Cornell trophy is the smallest. I'd go for UPenn at least

AtticusFinch wrote:

[1L]Hopeful wrote:If you attend a school labeled "Ivy," is there some kind of a reward upon graduation? I thought Ivy just meant "one of the oldest schools in America." Am I missing something here? What's the big deal?

Yes, it's called a job.

Your avatar brings a great deal of dignity and class to this forum.

Sogui wrote:

AtticusFinch wrote:

[1L]Hopeful wrote:If you attend a school labeled "Ivy," is there some kind of a reward upon graduation? I thought Ivy just meant "one of the oldest schools in America." Am I missing something here? What's the big deal?

Yes, it's called a job.

Your avatar brings a great deal of dignity and class to this forum.

Wow, you believe it does all that? Maybe I should attach it to my resume. What do you think?

AtticusFinch wrote:

Sogui wrote:

AtticusFinch wrote:

[1L]Hopeful wrote:If you attend a school labeled "Ivy," is there some kind of a reward upon graduation? I thought Ivy just meant "one of the oldest schools in America." Am I missing something here? What's the big deal?

Yes, it's called a job.

Your avatar brings a great deal of dignity and class to this forum.

Wow, you believe it does all that? Maybe I should attach it to my resume. What do you think?

I think you should do so if you and I are competing for the same job.

it's a substandard sports conference... personally I prefer the SEC, sometimes the CAA and Big East depending on sports, division etc

Why would you ever like the CAA, unless you go/went to a member school?

Borhas wrote:it's a substandard sports conference... personally I prefer the SEC, sometimes the CAA and Big East depending on sports, division etc

Pft. Patriot League ftw.

Halibut6 wrote:Why would you ever like the CAA, unless you go/went to a member school?

I go to a member school

kittenmittons wrote: The Cornell trophy is the smallest. I'd go for UPenn at least

I looked it up, don't go for Cornell, you get this lame one:

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And for all you Yale Gunners out there, this is what you have to look forward to:

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kittenmittons wrote: The Cornell trophy is the smallest. I'd go for UPenn at least

I looked it up, don't go for Cornell, you get this lame one:

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And for all you Yale Gunners out there, this is what you have to look forward to:

If you drink of it you will never be unemployed. But if you leave the shadow of mommy and daddy after drinking, you will grow hideously old without access to your trust fund.

AngryAvocado wrote:Those endowment estimates are way off. Harvard is more like 40 billion and Yale is around 20. Also, outside of HYP, the endowments drop dramatically to numbers quite comparable to their non-Ivy peers. To be honest, outside of the Top 3, the Ivy distinction is very overblown. There are so many schools that are at least as impressive as most of the Ivies (Stanford, MIT, CalTech, Chicago, Duke, etc.) that often the distinction just seems like an attempt for non-HYP Ivies to associate themselves with the Big 3.

Oh yeah, and it's a sports conference.

Stanford's endowment is fucking enormous; in fact, it's significantly larger than Princeton's and either very close to or larger than Yale's. Harvard's is the biggest by far. All endowments have taken a hit recently, but Stanford's has fared relatively well because so much of the school's money is tied to Silicon Valley tech (Google, Yahoo, HP all have very close ties to Stanford), which is faring better as an industry than most.

Also, this is a total urban legend. It did not happen:

EdmundBurke23 wrote: Although schools like Stanford are relatively new, the founder of the school invested all his money into getting it all started (after getting rejected from Harvard for a deal that he was trying to pull on getting one of his family members' name on one of their buildings).

Believe me, people at Harvard would have had a very clear idea of who Leland Stanford was. He founded Stanford in honor of his son (which is why the school's official name is Leland Stanford Junior University), who died in Europe of TB or something.

crackberry wrote: Believe me, people at Harvard would have had a very clear idea of who Leland Stanford was. He founded Stanford in honor of his son (which is why the school's official name is Leland Stanford Junior University), who died in Europe of TB or something.

As Stanford is not an Ivy League, you are only awarded with a Junior Trophy upon graduation, as befitting of the official name: