It is a sure case of YP because those 20% that get in with similar numbers (say 3.5-3.7/172-174) are offered scholarship money (which borderline admits certainly don't get), while the vast majority of the other 80% are waitlisted (giving the applicant ample opportunity to demonstrate interest through a LOCI).stratocophic wrote:I don't know that it's a sure case of YP at this level. I feel that the definition of median causes anyone above one number and below the other to be considered as a splitter. That's the only way they get a median GPA that high short of an insane balancing act of WL admits. A 171 3.85 could potentially have a better chance for admission than a 175 3.6 due to their system.im_blue wrote:A 3.68/172 is smack dab in YP territory for UVA, especially for nonresidents. If you check LSN, the acceptance rate is ~20% for this range.
Edit: If you take a look at LSN, there's a blatantly obvious border around ding territory. Aside from URMs, I was unable to find a single acceptance with both 3.85> 170>. URMs in that box may get off the WL in the summer, as may people with exceptional softs, but I'd almost guarantee that no one else in it will. It seems like a soft reject.
EDIT: Moreover, applicants in this range are exactly the kind of splitters that NYU accepts in droves, which causes UVA to YP them.