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PLease help me for an URM question!!!!!

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 12:54 am
by xiening
Hi, this is maybe a stupid question, but it will be help a lot if anyone provide any insights. I'm applying this year and I am a immigrant from an Asian Nation around 6-7 years ago. I pick up my English since then (which means I came from knew nothing) and now I'm pursuing my legal career.
I used the Law school predictor to get a view about my chances to the school, but I did see a significant different result if I check URM box, so under my situation, which I did mentioned as my addendum and PS, am i consider a URM or just as a conventional wisdom that Asian does not count.
*I know it is a soft, but i just don't know if is qualified as an URM.
*my LSAT is 168 and under GPA 3.6-3.7 but LSAT GPA is dropping to 3.5 (Cuz my first semester academic probation) :(
Any thought is appreciated! and I hope you guys all best luck for this year's application circle.

Re: PLease help me for an URM question!!!!!

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 1:01 am
by vanwinkle
URM = Under-Represented Minority. Asians are not "under-represented" in academic enrollment, so they are not considered URMs.

Re: PLease help me for an URM question!!!!!

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 1:02 am
by thewolfandpeter
No, you are not a URM.

...and its quite impressive that you scored a 168 on the lsat when u clearly do not have a solid grasp of the english language....how the hell did u manage to pull that off?

Re: PLease help me for an URM question!!!!!

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 1:05 am
by vanwinkle
ntzsch wrote:this guy must be smart as shit, really!
He's Asian.

Re: PLease help me for an URM question!!!!!

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 1:07 am
by devilishangelrjp
xiening wrote:Hi, this is maybe a stupid question, but it will be help a lot if anyone provide any insights. I'm applying this year and I am a immigrant from an Asian Nation around 6-7 years ago. I pick up my English since then (which means I came from knew nothing) and now I'm pursuing my legal career.
I used the Law school predictor to get a view about my chances to the school, but I did see a significant different result if I check URM box, so under my situation, which I did mentioned as my addendum and PS, am i consider a URM or just as a conventional wisdom that Asian does not count.
*I know it is a soft, but i just don't know if is qualified as an URM.
*my LSAT is 168 and under GPA 3.6-3.7 but LSAT GPA is dropping to 3.5 (Cuz my first semester academic probation) :(
Any thought is appreciated! and I hope you guys all best luck for this year's application circle.
Eh, I may be the blind leading the blind here. I've heard that Asian is not covered under the URM, because while it is a minority, it is not an underrepresented one. Underrepresented ones include Black, Native American, Mexican-Americans,and Puerto Ricans. Also I think the fact that you immigrated might not be covered under the URM umbrella anyway. But with those numbers (and depending on what school you want obviously), I'm not sure you'd need the boost anyway.

You can take what I say with a pinch of salt though, because someone else here might have a better answer.

Re: PLease help me for an URM question!!!!!

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 1:07 am
by thewolfandpeter
vanwinkle wrote:
ntzsch wrote:this guy must be smart as shit, really!
He's Asian.


....but he can barely speak english....wtf? no way he/she could understand all the reading comp passages speaking english like that

Re: PLease help me for an URM question!!!!!

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 1:16 am
by vanwinkle
thewolfandpeter wrote:
vanwinkle wrote:
ntzsch wrote:this guy must be smart as shit, really!
He's Asian.


....but he can barely speak english....wtf? no way he/she could understand all the reading comp passages speaking english like that
Actually I don't think his English is that bad, it's mainly grammatical errors (which are common for ESL people because learning new grammatical structure can be a lot more difficult than simply learning new vocabulary) and he's able to form complete and intelligible sentences. Given all that he's probably got a good enough grasp of English to read it well and pick the right answer choice (reading is usually easier than speaking/writing).

Re: PLease help me for an URM question!!!!!

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 1:25 am
by Kohinoor
thewolfandpeter wrote:
vanwinkle wrote:
ntzsch wrote:this guy must be smart as shit, really!
He's Asian.


....but he can barely speak english....wtf? no way he/she could understand all the reading comp passages speaking english like that
LSAT not objectively difficult.

Re: PLease help me for an URM question!!!!!

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 1:26 am
by xiening
Thanks for all the information! I really appreciated!!!!!!
That gentlemen got a point. RC was my weakness section from the beginning, and I summit another message on the other broad ( i believe is the LSAT prep forum) to explain what I did to improve it. I was lucky enough that Games did not get me a lot of troubles during the process of studying. at last, I also believe LR just take practice to master it.
Granted, I spent more time than many people in order to gain this score. (around 12 hours per day in 4 1/2 months, including weekends and holidays).
Again, I really really thankful for all the info, and I wish you guys the best luck!!!!!!!

Re: PLease help me for an URM question!!!!!

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 1:30 am
by vanwinkle
xiening wrote:Thanks for all the information! I really appreciated!!!!!!
That gentlemen got a point. RC was my weakness section from the beginning, and I summit another message on the other broad ( i believe is the LSAT prep forum) to explain what I did to improve it. I was lucky enough that Games did not get me a lot of troubles during the process of studying. at last, I also believe LR just take practice to master it.
Granted, I spent more time than many people in order to gain this score. (around 12 hours per day in 4 1/2 months, including weekends and holidays).
Again, I really really thankful for all the info, and I wish you guys the best luck!!!!!!!
This is why Asians do better in law school.

Re: PLease help me for an URM question!!!!!

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 1:58 am
by thewolfandpeter
Holy shit....thats truly truly truly insane

Re: PLease help me for an URM question!!!!!

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 3:51 am
by APimpNamedSlickback
xiening wrote:Thanks for all the information! I really appreciated!!!!!!
That gentlemen got a point. RC was my weakness section from the beginning, and I summit another message on the other broad ( i believe is the LSAT prep forum) to explain what I did to improve it. I was lucky enough that Games did not get me a lot of troubles during the process of studying. at last, I also believe LR just take practice to master it.
Granted, I spent more time than many people in order to gain this score. (around 12 hours per day in 4 1/2 months, including weekends and holidays).
Again, I really really thankful for all the info, and I wish you guys the best luck!!!!!!!

you are my hero.

Re: PLease help me for an URM question!!!!!

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 10:43 am
by devilishangelrjp
xiening wrote:Thanks for all the information! I really appreciated!!!!!!
That gentlemen got a point. RC was my weakness section from the beginning, and I summit another message on the other broad ( i believe is the LSAT prep forum) to explain what I did to improve it. I was lucky enough that Games did not get me a lot of troubles during the process of studying. at last, I also believe LR just take practice to master it.
Granted, I spent more time than many people in order to gain this score. (around 12 hours per day in 4 1/2 months, including weekends and holidays).
Again, I really really thankful for all the info, and I wish you guys the best luck!!!!!!!
WHAT? Where did you find 12 hours in a day?

Re: PLease help me for an URM question!!!!!

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 10:58 am
by dudester
devilishangelrjp wrote:
xiening wrote:Thanks for all the information! I really appreciated!!!!!!
That gentlemen got a point. RC was my weakness section from the beginning, and I summit another message on the other broad ( i believe is the LSAT prep forum) to explain what I did to improve it. I was lucky enough that Games did not get me a lot of troubles during the process of studying. at last, I also believe LR just take practice to master it.
Granted, I spent more time than many people in order to gain this score. (around 12 hours per day in 4 1/2 months, including weekends and holidays).
Again, I really really thankful for all the info, and I wish you guys the best luck!!!!!!!
WHAT? Where did you find 12 hours in a day?
Are days shorter in Asia?

Re: PLease help me for an URM question!!!!!

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 11:09 am
by capitalacq
lwr will be fun