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Critiques Welcome! (Polished, Near-Final)

Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 10:45 pm
by Anonymous User
Hi all -- any and all thoughts are welcome.

I've been working on this off and on for awhile but am trying to wrap it up tonight/tomorrow for T15~ apps. It's a difficult subject so I've tried to balance it out (obviously humor is out which sucks) a bit. I know the whole in media res thing is tacky but I think it works here. Anyway, this statement has a lot of personally intrinsic value which means...blind spots, lots of them. Just hoping to weed out any weakness, gauge impressions, all them good stuffs.

Thanks in advance for any feedback. (I've uploaded in pic form because forum formatting really detracts imho)

UPDATED PS ADDED IN LAST POST

Re: Critiques Welcome! (Polished, Near-Final)

Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 11:11 pm
by valen
This reads very well. I actually paused the show I'm watching halfway through the first paragraph because I was so interested. Although it does make me question your age a bit because the subject matter definitely dates you.

Re: Critiques Welcome! (Polished, Near-Final)

Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 11:26 pm
by Anonymous User
valen wrote:This reads very well. I actually paused the show I'm watching halfway through the first paragraph because I was so interested. Although it does make me question your age a bit because the subject matter definitely dates you.
A previous draft tossed in more concrete dates to avoid that, but eventually scrapped it.

I'm 31 (figuring if they care, they'll double check). 8)

Thanks for the feedback.

Re: Critiques Welcome! (Polished, Near-Final)

Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 11:41 pm
by GB21
First off, it's a great ps and you'll get into some good schools if you have the numbers. Feel free to ignore advice if you're set on applying right now.

If you change it, I would be more blunt in the first paragraph about the experiences you're going to talk to about and I would add in something about "the duty passed to you" stuff that you don't get to until the end. I would also shorten it to take out a lot of descriptors and fluff in there (tacky blood/cool water; two paragraphs describing the fight). Depending on where you're applying, you may need to shorten it. I think that's a good thing for you.

The power of your ps is that you've had an experience few else have had and that experience taught you something larger which led you to law school. I think an ideal statement spends less time describing the cross burning and the fight and more time explaining how those experiences led you to law school. Those experiences are powerful enough in their own right, you don't need to take up an entire ps with describing them.

Re: Critiques Welcome! (Polished, Near-Final)

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 12:04 am
by Anonymous User
GB21 wrote:First off, it's a great ps and you'll get into some good schools if you have the numbers. Feel free to ignore advice if you're set on applying right now.

If you change it, I would be more blunt in the first paragraph about the experiences you're going to talk to about and I would add in something about "the duty passed to you" stuff that you don't get to until the end. I would also shorten it to take out a lot of descriptors and fluff in there (tacky blood/cool water; two paragraphs describing the fight). Depending on where you're applying, you may need to shorten it. I think that's a good thing for you.

The power of your ps is that you've had an experience few else have had and that experience taught you something larger which led you to law school. I think an ideal statement spends less time describing the cross burning and the fight and more time explaining how those experiences led you to law school. Those experiences are powerful enough in their own right, you don't need to take up an entire ps with describing them.
This is really good advice, thank you. Working on an alt version, was also puzzling over what to do with the 2 page limit schools so it had to happen anyway. Def. went the descriptive lazy route above, it's so much easier than talking about yourself... :lol:

Re: Critiques Welcome! (Polished, Near-Final)

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 1:12 am
by flomotion
This is excellent. There's a lot of power in this statement, and your voice definitely shines through.

I don't think you necessarily need to tie it into why you want to go to law school, since I feel like it functions on its own as a powerful statement (and adding a reason for why it makes you want to go to law school might feel contrived). I would actually cut down a bit on the description of your parents and your father's poverty, though. I think it adds an additional dimension of diversity, but it's something I would cut first in order to get to the "meat" of the story earlier.

All in all-- great.

Re: Critiques Welcome! (Polished, Near-Final)

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 1:16 am
by Emma.
A little thing, but I found the whole warm/cool/scalding in the second sentence to be a bit much.

Re: Critiques Welcome! (Polished, Near-Final)

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 9:56 am
by Anonymous User
Awesome, thanks for the feedback. Making some pretty deep revisions. :oops:

Re: Critiques Welcome! (Polished, Near-Final)

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 10:14 am
by GB21
Anonymous User wrote:
GB21 wrote:First off, it's a great ps and you'll get into some good schools if you have the numbers. Feel free to ignore advice if you're set on applying right now.

If you change it, I would be more blunt in the first paragraph about the experiences you're going to talk to about and I would add in something about "the duty passed to you" stuff that you don't get to until the end. I would also shorten it to take out a lot of descriptors and fluff in there (tacky blood/cool water; two paragraphs describing the fight). Depending on where you're applying, you may need to shorten it. I think that's a good thing for you.

The power of your ps is that you've had an experience few else have had and that experience taught you something larger which led you to law school. I think an ideal statement spends less time describing the cross burning and the fight and more time explaining how those experiences led you to law school. Those experiences are powerful enough in their own right, you don't need to take up an entire ps with describing them.
This is really good advice, thank you. Working on an alt version, was also puzzling over what to do with the 2 page limit schools so it had to happen anyway. Def. went the descriptive lazy route above, it's so much easier than talking about yourself... :lol:
I also wrote a ps about an intense experience that few have, but approached it differently. PM me if you want to see it. Again, I wouldn't worry too much about this if you want to submit now. As long as you have the numbers I think you're good.

Re: Critiques Welcome! (Polished, Near-Final)

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 10:23 am
by iguazu
Emma. wrote:A little thing, but I found the whole warm/cool/scalding in the second sentence to be a bit much.
Agree. That (maybe I'm more sensitive than most) kinda made me fearful of what else you were going to describe (and how)

Re: Critiques Welcome! (Polished, Near-Final)

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 12:05 pm
by Anonymous User
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Re: Critiques Welcome! (Polished, Near-Final)

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 3:08 pm
by Anonymous User
Any final thoughts on new meta closing before I submit stuff?

Feels good to me, much less contrived and syrupy, enjoying the abrupt tonal shift, but ijdk how it reads to others. :oops:

(thanks again in advance, ya'lls feedback was priceless)

Re: Critiques Welcome! (Polished, Near-Final)

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 3:42 pm
by pkraft1
"scalding lungs" grammatically makes no sense. I think you mean that the air scalded your lungs. Consider changing "the feel of blood" to "the feeling of blood," although either are correct.

Re: Critiques Welcome! (Polished, Near-Final)

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 4:30 pm
by valen
pkraft1 wrote:"scalding lungs" grammatically makes no sense. I think you mean that the air scalded your lungs. Consider changing "the feel of blood" to "the feeling of blood," although either are correct.
Would you be willing to read through my PS?

Re: Critiques Welcome! (Polished, Near-Final)

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 5:12 pm
by Anonymous User
pkraft1 wrote:"scalding lungs" grammatically makes no sense. I think you mean that the air scalded your lungs. Consider changing "the feel of blood" to "the feeling of blood," although either are correct.
Word. I scrapped some of that entirely. Thanks mate.

Re: Critiques Welcome! (Polished, Near-Final)

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 5:12 pm
by Anonymous User
valen wrote:
pkraft1 wrote:"scalding lungs" grammatically makes no sense. I think you mean that the air scalded your lungs. Consider changing "the feel of blood" to "the feeling of blood," although either are correct.
Would you be willing to read through my PS?
I would if it helps? 8)

Re: Critiques Welcome! (Polished, Near-Final)

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 5:35 pm
by valen
Anonymous User wrote:
valen wrote:
pkraft1 wrote:"scalding lungs" grammatically makes no sense. I think you mean that the air scalded your lungs. Consider changing "the feel of blood" to "the feeling of blood," although either are correct.
Would you be willing to read through my PS?
I would if it helps? 8)
sure, the more eyes the better - can you PM me?

Re: Critiques Welcome! (Polished, Near-Final)

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 7:18 pm
by pkraft1
Anonymous User wrote:
valen wrote:
pkraft1 wrote:"scalding lungs" grammatically makes no sense. I think you mean that the air scalded your lungs. Consider changing "the feel of blood" to "the feeling of blood," although either are correct.
Would you be willing to read through my PS?
I would if it helps? 8)
Sorry, I'd love to if I had the time. I am still finishing mine, and mine is no where near completion. If I remember I'll message you for it in the future.

Re: Critiques Welcome! (Polished, Near-Final)

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 8:11 pm
by Anonymous User
Here's what you gents wrought. Overall it's tighter. Unsure if fully effective, what some might see as an odd tonal shift at the end there. All in all, sure enough that this is what I'm submitting.

I will check in around here on the regular to offer feedback for others. Or, just PM me and happy to look at them. 8)

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