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Consultant? Help?

Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 12:11 pm
by rf1700
I have a 170 and a 3.99. I go to a smaller liberal arts school in California (Santa Clara University) and really want to get into a top 10. Not URM. Don't have a miraculous story of overcoming poverty etc. I'm just a really hardworking and committed kid who has put his heart and soul into school for the past 3 years. Because I am at the median LSAT for a lot of different schools in the top 10, I'm really considering getting a consultant. Thoughts? I have read countless threads on the topic, but it would be nice for someone to give advice with respect to my individual situation.

Re: Consultant? Help?

Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 12:19 pm
by Chekhov'sGun
rf1700 wrote:I have a 170 and a 3.99. I go to a smaller liberal arts school in California (Santa Clara University) and really want to get into a top 10. Not URM. Don't have a miraculous story of overcoming poverty etc. I'm just a really hardworking and committed kid who has put his heart and soul into school for the past 3 years. Because I am at the median LSAT for a lot of different schools in the top 10, I'm really considering getting a consultant. Thoughts? I have read countless threads on the topic, but it would be nice for someone to give advice with respect to my individual situation.
You should be golden with those numbers. I wouldn't worry about it.

Re: Consultant? Help?

Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 1:56 pm
by 03152016
You'll be fine OP

Re: Consultant? Help?

Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 1:59 pm
by toothbrush
For next cycle? Apply on day 1. That means writing your PS, get your recs, etc, now. Blanket the t-14 that you would actually attend. (If you wouldn't go to Ithaca, don't apply to Cornell, etc).

You'll be fine. Read some PS samples from the PS forum to get some ideas / read critiques to know what not to do.

Re: Consultant? Help?

Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 2:02 pm
by Mullens
toothbrush wrote:For next cycle? Apply on day 1. That means writing your PS, get your recs, etc, now. Blanket the t-14 that you would actually attend. (If you wouldn't go to Ithaca, don't apply to Cornell, etc).

You'll be fine. Read some PS samples from the PS forum to get some ideas / read critiques to know what not to do.
The bolded is bad advice. You should blanket the entire T-14 for the purposes of scholarship negotiations. Even if you don't think you would attend a school, their scholarship offer might help you get more money out of a school you want to attend, which is well worth the application fee and time.

Re: Consultant? Help?

Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 2:07 pm
by toothbrush
Mullens wrote:
toothbrush wrote:For next cycle? Apply on day 1. That means writing your PS, get your recs, etc, now. Blanket the t-14 that you would actually attend. (If you wouldn't go to Ithaca, don't apply to Cornell, etc).

You'll be fine. Read some PS samples from the PS forum to get some ideas / read critiques to know what not to do.
The bolded is bad advice. You should blanket the entire T-14 for the purposes of scholarship negotiations. Even if you don't think you would attend a school, their scholarship offer might help you get more money out of a school you want to attend, which is well worth the application fee and time.
You are right. However, I was operating under the assumption that he would have a strong preference AGAINST one or two of the t14 (mich, cornell, uva) that have geography that he does not like or realistically wouldn't attend. I doubt dropping one of DCNG or CCN would hurt in scholly negotiations. But that's just my opinion/experience.

Of course, if OP has preference against all of MVPCCN for whatver reasons, don't NOT apply to them. That would be dumb. Target atleast 10-12 of the t14 and I think that's safe. I overapplied.

Re: Consultant? Help?

Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 2:07 pm
by 03152016
Yeah OP blanket the entire T14
And maybe retake too while you're at it
A few more LSAT questions correct and you can nab the Vanderbilt/Hamilton/Ruby and win at life

Re: Consultant? Help?

Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 2:08 pm
by 03152016
Also why is this in personal statements

Re: Consultant? Help?

Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 2:09 pm
by toothbrush
oh and request fee waivers that aren't mailed to you. You shouldn't have to pay for most of the t14

Re: Consultant? Help?

Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 2:27 pm
by Mullens
toothbrush wrote:
Mullens wrote:
toothbrush wrote:For next cycle? Apply on day 1. That means writing your PS, get your recs, etc, now. Blanket the t-14 that you would actually attend. (If you wouldn't go to Ithaca, don't apply to Cornell, etc).

You'll be fine. Read some PS samples from the PS forum to get some ideas / read critiques to know what not to do.
The bolded is bad advice. You should blanket the entire T-14 for the purposes of scholarship negotiations. Even if you don't think you would attend a school, their scholarship offer might help you get more money out of a school you want to attend, which is well worth the application fee and time.
You are right. However, I was operating under the assumption that he would have a strong preference AGAINST one or two of the t14 (mich, cornell, uva) that have geography that he does not like or realistically wouldn't attend. I doubt dropping one of DCNG or CCN would hurt in scholly negotiations. But that's just my opinion/experience.

Of course, if OP has preference against all of MVPCCN for whatver reasons, don't NOT apply to them. That would be dumb. Target atleast 10-12 of the t14 and I think that's safe. I overapplied.
Still bad advice. There's no way of knowing which schools in the lower T14 will throw big money at an applicant with 3.99/170 and which will YP. The one school you leave out might given you the most money and thus the best bargaining chip for getting more money from peer or higher ranked schools. Blanket the T14, write all the Why X's, and jump through all the hoops and I would be surprised if you don't end up with multiple full rides and/or admission to at least one of HYS. Sure it will take some time, but it's really an investment in your future when you consider it could potentially save you tens of thousands of dollars.

Re: Consultant? Help?

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2014 7:05 am
by jakkeeye
rf1700 wrote:I have a 170 and a 3.99. I go to a smaller liberal arts school in California (Santa Clara University) and really want to get into a top 10. Not URM. Don't have a miraculous story of overcoming poverty etc. I'm just a really hardworking and committed kid who has put his heart and soul into school for the past 3 years. Because I am at the median LSAT for a lot of different schools in the top 10, I'm really considering getting a consultant. Thoughts? I have read countless threads on the topic, but it would be nice for someone to give advice with respect to my individual situation.
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Re: Consultant? Help?

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2014 10:07 am
by A. Nony Mouse
Brut wrote:Also why is this in personal statements
OP, did you want advice specifically on a consultant for your PS, or general advice? If the latter, this is the wrong forum.