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Does need based aid exist?

Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 8:11 pm
by kareenak888
Edited. I didn't want to have too much info out there.

Anyway... does need based aid exist (as compared to undergrad need based aid)?

Re: Does need base aid exist?

Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 8:15 pm
by dextermorgan
It's usually a mix.

Re: Does need base aid exist?

Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 8:18 pm
by kareenak888
dextermorgan wrote:It's usually a mix.
could I get half in need based aid at some schools? Or is that asking too much?

Re: Does need based aid exist?

Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 8:18 pm
by puppleberry finn
Sure, at HYS.

Re: Does need based aid exist?

Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 8:32 pm
by Miracle
I don't understand the need based aid for LS either?

How much is usually offered, and does it even exist, because i'm yet to come across someone that said they received need based grant.

Re: Does need based aid exist?

Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 8:39 pm
by puppleberry finn
Miracle wrote:I don't understand the need based aid for LS either?

How much is usually offered, and does it even exist, because i'm yet to come across someone that said they received need based grant.
The extent of most school's need based aid is federally subsidized loans, which you qualify for based on your FAFSA. However, a select few schools (I only know of HYS, though obviously there could be others), offer need-based grant aid, which does not have to be paid back. It is my understanding that even HYS require you to take out some federal loans to meet a 'student and family contribution' portion of the budget, plus living expenses, even for very low income applicants.

Re: Does need based aid exist?

Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 8:48 pm
by superserial
Columbia has "need-based" aid... although I'm convinced they mean "mostly LSAT-based and somewhat need-based" aid.

Re: Does need based aid exist?

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 12:26 pm
by Miracle
puppins wrote:
Miracle wrote:I don't understand the need based aid for LS either?

How much is usually offered, and does it even exist, because i'm yet to come across someone that said they received need based grant.
The extent of most school's need based aid is federally subsidized loans, which you qualify for based on your FAFSA. However, a select few schools (I only know of HYS, though obviously there could be others), offer need-based grant aid, which does not have to be paid back. It is my understanding that even HYS require you to take out some federal loans to meet a 'student and family contribution' portion of the budget, plus living expenses, even for very low income applicants.
Michigan has an excellent financial aid packages. Thy ave work-study programs, and "need based aid" :D

Re: Does need based aid exist?

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 1:04 pm
by legends159
HYS gives out need based aid. From anecdote SLS is the most generous, followed by YLS and then HLS. Though the differences in the end are not usually going to be that substantial.

Boalt also gives out need based aid from my experience. Though I don't know how much that will change.

Re: Does need based aid exist?

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 7:05 pm
by bahama
There is very detailed info about how HYS calculate "need" for need based aid on their financial aid websites. As others have mentioned, these 3 only give grants based on need.

Most other schools it is harder to tell what is what because they give aid based on a "combination of need and merit" which makes it pretty much a black box.

Re: Does need based aid exist?

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 12:16 am
by Miracle
bahama wrote:There is very detailed info about how HYS calculate "need" for need based aid on their financial aid websites. As others have mentioned, these 3 only give grants based on need.

Most other schools it is harder to tell what is what because they give aid based on a "combination of need and merit" which makes it pretty much a black box.
???

did you not read my post-Michigan gives out need based aid as well. :D

Re: Does need based aid exist?

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 12:23 am
by GeePee
Miracle wrote:
bahama wrote:There is very detailed info about how HYS calculate "need" for need based aid on their financial aid websites. As others have mentioned, these 3 only give grants based on need.

Most other schools it is harder to tell what is what because they give aid based on a "combination of need and merit" which makes it pretty much a black box.
???

did you not read my post-Michigan gives out need based aid as well. :D
Nothing he said is at odds with your post... All he said is that HYS give need aid exclusively, so it's easier to figure than at schools where merit and need aid is mixed.

Re: Does need based aid exist?

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 12:26 am
by Miracle
GeePee wrote:
Miracle wrote:
bahama wrote:There is very detailed info about how HYS calculate "need" for need based aid on their financial aid websites. As others have mentioned, these 3 only give grants based on need.

Most other schools it is harder to tell what is what because they give aid based on a "combination of need and merit" which makes it pretty much a black box.
???

did you not read my post-Michigan gives out need based aid as well. :D
Nothing he said is at odds with your post... All he said is that HYS give need aid exclusively, so it's easier to figure than at schools where merit and need aid is mixed.
"These 3 only give grants based on need"

Point being, they are not the only three that give grants based on need, which is misleading information and at odds with my post.

Re: Does need based aid exist?

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 12:31 am
by GeePee
Miracle wrote:
GeePee wrote:
Miracle wrote:
bahama wrote:There is very detailed info about how HYS calculate "need" for need based aid on their financial aid websites. As others have mentioned, these 3 only give grants based on need.

Most other schools it is harder to tell what is what because they give aid based on a "combination of need and merit" which makes it pretty much a black box.
???

did you not read my post-Michigan gives out need based aid as well. :D
Nothing he said is at odds with your post... All he said is that HYS give need aid exclusively, so it's easier to figure than at schools where merit and need aid is mixed.
"These 3 only give grants based on need"

Point being, they are not the only three that give grants based on need, which is misleading information and at odds with my post.
You need to learn English...

EDIT: That DOESN'T mean "These are the only 3 that give grants based on need"

Re: Does need based aid exist?

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 12:34 am
by Miracle
you need to work on your logical reasoning. :D

Re: Does need based aid exist?

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 12:35 am
by GeePee
Miracle wrote:you need to work on your logical reasoning. :D
:roll:

I'm not even sure what that's supposed to mean...

Re: Does need based aid exist?

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 12:42 am
by Miracle
GeePee wrote:
Miracle wrote:you need to work on your logical reasoning. :D
:roll:

I'm not even sure what that's supposed to mean...
Point proven :D :D :D :D :D

Re: Does need based aid exist?

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 12:51 am
by James Bond
GeePee wrote:
Miracle wrote:you need to work on your logical reasoning. :D
:roll:

I'm not even sure what that's supposed to mean...
Dr. House fail

Re: Does need based aid exist?

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 12:53 am
by bluejayk
Miracle wrote: "These 3 only give grants based on need"

Point being, they are not the only three that give grants based on need, which is misleading information and at odds with my post.
Uhm... that sentence means "The three schools in question give only need based grants,", not "These three schools and no others give need based grants."

Re: Does need based aid exist?

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 1:04 am
by GeePee
bluejayk wrote:
Miracle wrote: "These 3 only give grants based on need"

Point being, they are not the only three that give grants based on need, which is misleading information and at odds with my post.
Uhm... that sentence means "The three schools in question give only need based grants,", not "These three schools and no others give need based grants."
I'm glad I'm not the only person here that still knows English...

Re: Does need based aid exist?

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 1:06 am
by rondemarino
GeePee wrote:
bluejayk wrote:
Miracle wrote: "These 3 only give grants based on need"

Point being, they are not the only three that give grants based on need, which is misleading information and at odds with my post.
Uhm... that sentence means "The three schools in question give only need based grants,", not "These three schools and no others give need based grants."
I'm glad I'm not the only person here that still knows English...
Damn. And I was looking forward to an explanation of how an error in reasoning was involved. Oh well.

Re: Does need based aid exist?

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 1:24 am
by bluejayk
rondemarino wrote:Damn. And I was looking forward to an explanation of how an error in reasoning was involved. Oh well.
Don't give up hope, I'm eagerly awaiting Miracle's explanation of the logical reasoning problem GeePee was having.

Re: Does need based aid exist?

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 1:53 am
by legends159
i'm guessing it involved a mix of sarcasm and some "I was just kidding duh"

Re: Does need based aid exist?

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 10:47 pm
by Miracle
You guys are mean to me!

It could of been that I read it wrong. I will let it go and come back to it in couple of days so that I don't read in to it to much/over think it.

Re: Does need based aid exist?

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 12:37 pm
by bahama
You read it wrong.

It was kind of fun to watch though.