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				Got a Scholarship and In-State Tuition (What Else Can I do)
				Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 5:25 pm
				by ebailey1212
				I have been accepted to George Mason, In State with a $13,000 scholarship. My tuition will be $12,000 a year, and probably $20,000 to $25,000 a year for living expenses.
Any outside the box recommendations to help deal with remaining tuition and living expenses.
			 
			
					
				Re: Got a Scholarship and In-State Tuition (What Else Can I do)
				Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 5:31 pm
				by emkay625
				Have you attempted to negotiate your scholarship offer?
			 
			
					
				Re: Got a Scholarship and In-State Tuition (What Else Can I do)
				Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 5:33 pm
				by ebailey1212
				emkay625 wrote:Have you attempted to negotiate your scholarship offer?
No, however I applied "early binding" decision so from what I understand I have pretty much no room to negotiate.
 
			
					
				Re: Got a Scholarship and In-State Tuition (What Else Can I do)
				Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 5:34 pm
				by Good Guy Gaud
				ebailey1212 wrote:emkay625 wrote:Have you attempted to negotiate your scholarship offer?
No, however I applied "early binding" decision so from what I understand I have pretty much no room to negotiate.
 
Nothing to lose in at least giving it a shot.
 
			
					
				Re: Got a Scholarship and In-State Tuition (What Else Can I do)
				Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2015 8:47 am
				by TheSpanishMain
				Withdraw and retake is your best bet.
			 
			
					
				Re: Got a Scholarship and In-State Tuition (What Else Can I do)
				Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2015 8:49 am
				by Hand
				TheSpanishMain wrote:Withdraw and retake is your best bet.
 
			
					
				Re: Got a Scholarship and In-State Tuition (What Else Can I do)
				Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2015 8:57 am
				by pancakes3
				It's not about ticking off a box because you qualified for a scholarship. You have to analyze the situation in its totality and weigh the pros and cons of your decision (dollars and cents). Go make it happen captain.
			 
			
					
				Re: Got a Scholarship and In-State Tuition (What Else Can I do)
				Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2015 12:37 pm
				by ebailey1212
				pancakes3 wrote:It's not about ticking off a box because you qualified for a scholarship. You have to analyze the situation in its totality and weigh the pros and cons of your decision (dollars and cents). Go make it happen captain.
I have done a ton of that which is why I am where I am ($12,000 a year tuition to go to a T40). My question is along the lines of hey I'm in a good position how can I make it even better.....
 
			
					
				Re: Got a Scholarship and In-State Tuition (What Else Can I do)
				Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2015 12:48 pm
				by TheSpanishMain
				ebailey1212 wrote:pancakes3 wrote:It's not about ticking off a box because you qualified for a scholarship. You have to analyze the situation in its totality and weigh the pros and cons of your decision (dollars and cents). Go make it happen captain.
I have done a ton of that which is why I am where I am ($12,000 a year tuition to go to a T40). My question is along the lines of hey I'm in a good position how can I make it even better.....
 
You could take a year off and retake. "T40" isn't really a thing, and over a $100,000 in the hole to go to George Mason isn't a great deal. Granted, it's better than sticker, but it's still pretty steep. What are your goals?
But if you won't do that, no, not really. You applied early decision, which is usually not a good move, so you can't really negotiate. Other than, just try to get some roommates and live as cheaply as you can, I guess. Columbia Pike still has some affordable areas that are reasonably convenient to GM.
 
			
					
				Re: Got a Scholarship and In-State Tuition (What Else Can I do)
				Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2015 3:36 pm
				by ebailey1212
				TheSpanishMain wrote:ebailey1212 wrote:pancakes3 wrote:It's not about ticking off a box because you qualified for a scholarship. You have to analyze the situation in its totality and weigh the pros and cons of your decision (dollars and cents). Go make it happen captain.
I have done a ton of that which is why I am where I am ($12,000 a year tuition to go to a T40). My question is along the lines of hey I'm in a good position how can I make it even better.....
 
You could take a year off and retake. "T40" isn't really a thing, and over a $100,000 in the hole to go to George Mason isn't a great deal. Granted, it's better than sticker, but it's still pretty steep. What are your goals?
But if you won't do that, no, not really. You applied early decision, which is usually not a good move, so you can't really negotiate. Other than, just try to get some roommates and live as cheaply as you can, I guess. Columbia Pike still has some affordable areas that are reasonably convenient to GM.
 
Honestly I feel like a lot of you guys (who are uber negative towards anything except a full ride to Harvard) don't really have a realistic grasp on life after undergraduate school. There aren't exactly a lot of career paths these days that are a cakewalk to a great salary and job security. (most people already know that law school isn't a guaranteed job/good salary anymore) but the fact is I know recent graduates from far worse schools than George Mason that have good paying jobs including newly hired associates in the Firm I currently work as a paralegal in. 
Your not going to convince me that George Mason is a guaranteed path towards anything but your not going to convince me that with minimal tuition its better to just be a paralegal and cap out at 80,000 dollars a year either when I retire. Stop being so over-dramatic and find something better to do with your time.
 
			
					
				Re: Got a Scholarship and In-State Tuition (What Else Can I do)
				Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2015 3:39 pm
				by lymenheimer
				ebailey1212 wrote:
the fact is I know recent graduates from far worse schools than George Mason that have good paying jobs
Quoting for posterity.
 
			
					
				Re: Got a Scholarship and In-State Tuition (What Else Can I do)
				Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2015 3:39 pm
				by Hand
				ebailey1212 wrote:TheSpanishMain wrote:ebailey1212 wrote:pancakes3 wrote:It's not about ticking off a box because you qualified for a scholarship. You have to analyze the situation in its totality and weigh the pros and cons of your decision (dollars and cents). Go make it happen captain.
I have done a ton of that which is why I am where I am ($12,000 a year tuition to go to a T40). My question is along the lines of hey I'm in a good position how can I make it even better.....
 
You could take a year off and retake. "T40" isn't really a thing, and over a $100,000 in the hole to go to George Mason isn't a great deal. Granted, it's better than sticker, but it's still pretty steep. What are your goals?
But if you won't do that, no, not really. You applied early decision, which is usually not a good move, so you can't really negotiate. Other than, just try to get some roommates and live as cheaply as you can, I guess. Columbia Pike still has some affordable areas that are reasonably convenient to GM.
 
Honestly I feel like a lot of you guys (who are uber negative towards anything except a full ride to Harvard) don't really have a realistic grasp on life after undergraduate school. There aren't exactly a lot of career paths these days that are a cakewalk to a great salary and job security. (most people already know that law school isn't a guaranteed job/good salary anymore) but the fact is I know recent graduates from far worse schools than George Mason that have good paying jobs including newly hired associates in the Firm I currently work as a paralegal in. 
Your not going to convince me that George Mason is a guaranteed path towards anything but your not going to convince me that with minimal tuition its better to just be a paralegal and cap out at 80,000 dollars a year either when I retire. Stop being so over-dramatic and find something better to do with your time.
 
Nobody is saying that, rather, what's being suggested is that you wait a year, retake the LSAT, and -- since you seem to be set on wanting to stay in the area -- you could go to GULC, or GW at the very least, with a bigger scholarship, and your odds of a good outcome will have improved dramatically, at fairly little cost to you.
 
			
					
				Re: Got a Scholarship and In-State Tuition (What Else Can I do)
				Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2015 3:57 pm
				by ebailey1212
				Hand wrote:ebailey1212 wrote:TheSpanishMain wrote:ebailey1212 wrote:pancakes3 wrote:It's not about ticking off a box because you qualified for a scholarship. You have to analyze the situation in its totality and weigh the pros and cons of your decision (dollars and cents). Go make it happen captain.
I have done a ton of that which is why I am where I am ($12,000 a year tuition to go to a T40). My question is along the lines of hey I'm in a good position how can I make it even better.....
 
You could take a year off and retake. "T40" isn't really a thing, and over a $100,000 in the hole to go to George Mason isn't a great deal. Granted, it's better than sticker, but it's still pretty steep. What are your goals?
But if you won't do that, no, not really. You applied early decision, which is usually not a good move, so you can't really negotiate. Other than, just try to get some roommates and live as cheaply as you can, I guess. Columbia Pike still has some affordable areas that are reasonably convenient to GM.
 
Honestly I feel like a lot of you guys (who are uber negative towards anything except a full ride to Harvard) don't really have a realistic grasp on life after undergraduate school. There aren't exactly a lot of career paths these days that are a cakewalk to a great salary and job security. (most people already know that law school isn't a guaranteed job/good salary anymore) but the fact is I know recent graduates from far worse schools than George Mason that have good paying jobs including newly hired associates in the Firm I currently work as a paralegal in. 
Your not going to convince me that George Mason is a guaranteed path towards anything but your not going to convince me that with minimal tuition its better to just be a paralegal and cap out at 80,000 dollars a year either when I retire. Stop being so over-dramatic and find something better to do with your time.
 
Nobody is saying that, rather, what's being suggested is that you wait a year, retake the LSAT, and -- since you seem to be set on wanting to stay in the area -- you could go to GULC, or GW at the very least, with a bigger scholarship, and your odds of a good outcome will have improved dramatically, at fairly little cost to you.
 
I'm sorry, but his comment took a negative tone and it deserved a response. As for the suggestion its just not for me, now is the time for me to make this transition in my life for a number of reasons.
P.S. take a close look at the employment statistics at GW vs GMU. The price I would likely pay at GW would probably be too much ground to make up to justify it.
 
			
					
				Re: Got a Scholarship and In-State Tuition (What Else Can I do)
				Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:11 pm
				by TheSpanishMain
				ebailey1212 wrote:
Honestly I feel like a lot of you guys (who are uber negative towards anything except a full ride to Harvard) don't really have a realistic grasp on life after undergraduate school. 
I started law school at 30 and by then I had served in Iraq and Afghanistan, lived in six states, and worked in the federal civil service. I'm not a 22 year old with a Harvard fetish. 
I'm sorry if you felt I was attacking you. That wasn't my intention. But I emphasize that I'm not a K-JD to make a point: waiting a year is 
not a big deal. And it can dramatically change your career trajectory. Best of luck in whatever you decide, I sincerely hope it all goes well.
 
			
					
				Re: Got a Scholarship and In-State Tuition (What Else Can I do)
				Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:43 pm
				by pancakes3
				ebailey1212 wrote:pancakes3 wrote:It's not about ticking off a box because you qualified for a scholarship. You have to analyze the situation in its totality and weigh the pros and cons of your decision (dollars and cents). Go make it happen captain.
I have done a ton of that which is why I am where I am ($12,000 a year tuition to go to a T40). My question is along the lines of hey I'm in a good position how can I make it even better.....
 
It's not about ticking off a box that you've nominally analyzed the situation in its totality and weighed the pros and cons of your decision. You need to have actually analyzed the situation in its totality and weigh the pros and cons of your decision.
Hope that clears it up.
 
			
					
				Re: Got a Scholarship and In-State Tuition (What Else Can I do)
				Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2015 6:05 pm
				by dabigchina
				I don't think anybody is saying you need to go to T14 full ride.
But you should be getting a full ride from George Mason. Because you applied for early decision that's probably not going to happen for you this year.
ebailey1212 wrote:
Honestly I feel like a lot of you guys (who are uber negative towards anything except a full ride to Harvard) don't really have a realistic grasp on life after undergraduate school. There aren't exactly a lot of career paths these days that are a cakewalk to a great salary and job security. (most people already know that law school isn't a guaranteed job/good salary anymore) but the fact is I know recent graduates from far worse schools than George Mason that have good paying jobs including newly hired associates in the Firm I currently work as a paralegal in. 
Your not going to convince me that George Mason is a guaranteed path towards anything but your not going to convince me that with minimal tuition its better to just be a paralegal and cap out at 80,000 dollars a year either when I retire. Stop being so over-dramatic and find something better to do with your time.