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Applying to GW for leverage at Georgetown?
Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 12:33 pm
by feralinfant
Just got an acceptance to G-town. Was about to send out an app to George Washington when i got the letter. There's no way I would take GW over Georgetown but is it worth applying anyway in hopes of getting a scholarship for leverage in negotiations with Georgetown. Or will it not really carry very much weight? Basically, is it worth the 80 bucks?
Re: Applying to GW for leverage at Georgetown?
Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 12:34 pm
by Ruxin1
feralinfant wrote:Just got an acceptance to G-town. Was about to send out an app to George Washington when i got the letter. There's no way I would take GW over Georgetown but is it worth applying anyway in hopes of getting a scholarship for leverage in negotiations with Georgetown. Or will it not really carry very much weight? Basically, is it worth the 80 bucks?
Try to solicit a fee waiver from GW.
Re: Applying to GW for leverage at Georgetown?
Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 12:35 pm
by feralinfant
Asked and answered in different thread.
ChampagnePapi wrote:feralinfant wrote:I know the consensus is that G-town is stingy, but any thoughts on when we might be able to lock down some scholly info?
Prowling some threads makes it seem like applications for scholarships might start going out in Nov. with a deadline in February. Does this sound right?
Also is your only real shot at leverage an admission/money of some kind to a better school or do you guys think it's worth it to send an app to say, GW in the hopes of getting some money offered for some help in negotiations with Gtown.
No, they won't take a GW offer seriously. You'll need a peer or better.
Financial aid decisions wont' come out until March or April
Re: Applying to GW for leverage at Georgetown?
Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 12:36 pm
by Ruxin1
feralinfant wrote:Asked and answered in different thread.
ChampagnePapi wrote:feralinfant wrote:I know the consensus is that G-town is stingy, but any thoughts on when we might be able to lock down some scholly info?
Prowling some threads makes it seem like applications for scholarships might start going out in Nov. with a deadline in February. Does this sound right?
Also is your only real shot at leverage an admission/money of some kind to a better school or do you guys think it's worth it to send an app to say, GW in the hopes of getting some money offered for some help in negotiations with Gtown.
No, they won't take a GW offer seriously. You'll need a peer or better.
Financial aid decisions wont' come out until March or April
OTOH, that guy is an 0L I'd wait for people that have attempted to negotiate.
Re: Applying to GW for leverage at Georgetown?
Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 12:38 pm
by reasonable_man
Dear G-Town:
Please give me money to match an offer at a school ranked way lower than G-Town.
Signed,
Guy who doesn't get how negotiations work
Re: Applying to GW for leverage at Georgetown?
Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 12:46 pm
by feralinfant
reasonable_man wrote:Dear G-Town:
Please give me money to match an offer at a school ranked way lower than G-Town.
Signed,
Guy who doesn't get how negotiations work
i mean my only thought is you might be able to use a massive scholly to get a smaller one. There's a thread somewhere on here where a person had an almost full ride at GW and managed to get 10k a year at G-town but i wasn't sure how typical that was and whether they might have been able to get the 10k regardless.
Re: Applying to GW for leverage at Georgetown?
Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 12:47 pm
by alpa chino
FWIW, I was exactly in your position several cycles ago, except I had a $105k scholly to GW. I called G-Town and they flat-out told me that they consider their peer schools to be Virginia, Penn, Cornell, etc, NOT GW. They wouldn't budge them to give me a dime. I'd say don't bother.
But if you have a high LSAT you should seriously consider applying to GW for the Dean's Scholarship or whatever it's called now. If I remember, the money was very front-loaded (and included free first-year housing) so you could essentially take a debt-free shot at 2L OCI and then drop out/finish up/whatever depending on the results. That's way better in my opinion than paying sticker for Georgetown OCI.
Re: Applying to GW for leverage at Georgetown?
Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 12:56 pm
by feralinfant
alpa chino wrote:FWIW, I was exactly in your position several cycles ago, except I had a $105k scholly to GW. I called G-Town and they flat-out told me that they consider their peer schools to be Virginia, Penn, Cornell, etc, NOT GW. They wouldn't budge them to give me a dime. I'd say don't bother.
But if you have a high LSAT you should seriously consider applying to GW for the Dean's Scholarship or whatever it's called now. If I remember, the money was very front-loaded (and included free first-year housing) so you could essentially take a debt-free shot at 2L OCI and then drop out/finish up/whatever depending on the results. That's way better in my opinion than paying sticker for Georgetown OCI.
Thanks.
Re: Applying to GW for leverage at Georgetown?
Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 6:26 pm
by 2014
Yes worth it if you can get a fee waiver, not worth it if you can't.
Re: Applying to GW for leverage at Georgetown?
Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 12:56 pm
by Rahviveh
Ruxin1 wrote:feralinfant wrote:Asked and answered in different thread.
ChampagnePapi wrote:feralinfant wrote:I know the consensus is that G-town is stingy, but any thoughts on when we might be able to lock down some scholly info?
Prowling some threads makes it seem like applications for scholarships might start going out in Nov. with a deadline in February. Does this sound right?
Also is your only real shot at leverage an admission/money of some kind to a better school or do you guys think it's worth it to send an app to say, GW in the hopes of getting some money offered for some help in negotiations with Gtown.
No, they won't take a GW offer seriously. You'll need a peer or better.
Financial aid decisions wont' come out until March or April
OTOH, that guy is an 0L I'd wait for people that have attempted to negotiate.
I have attempted to negotiate and have had the unfortunate experience of dealing with GULC for merit aid. Don't make assumptions.
Re: Applying to GW for leverage at Georgetown?
Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 1:02 pm
by Rahviveh
alpa chino wrote:But if you have a high LSAT you should seriously consider applying to GW for the Dean's Scholarship or whatever it's called now. If I remember, the money was very front-loaded (and included free first-year housing) so you could essentially take a debt-free shot at 2L OCI and then drop out/finish up/whatever depending on the results. That's way better in my opinion than paying sticker for Georgetown OCI.
If he gets that scholarship he probably has numbers for a decent scholarship elsewhere in the T14. Not convinced GW would be a better option in that case - a school where you need to be in the top 20% to get biglaw and is employing 15% of its class.
Re: Applying to GW for leverage at Georgetown?
Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 1:17 pm
by senorhosh
reasonable_man wrote:Dear G-Town:
Please give me money to match an offer at a school ranked way lower than G-Town.
Signed,
Guy who doesn't get how negotiations work
Dude obviously he won't get 80k from gulc but 80k from gw is large enough to sway an applicant's decision. It wouldn't be unreasonable for gulc to offer some money, even if it's only 10k-20k. I'd say that's worth the app fee.