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Nobody knows how much the boost is. It probably is different from school to school.willmarl wrote:My First score was 148. So idk about Top tier schools. But if I'm URM does that make it go to like 153??
Yea it's about a 7 point boost for AAsuhwrestler wrote:ive heard the average boost is about 7 points for urm aa males.....urm aa males get the highest boost
165 lsat with a gpa above 3.5 should make a contender everywhere barring yale and stanford
167 -170 should get you in everywhere with money
I can see that. GPA has a more significant impact.lnsl123 wrote:It seems to me that a majority of AA applicants who are admitted to top schools are admitted because of their GPAs vs. LSAT.
I think the average GPA for AA Males is sub 3.0. Average LSAT score is in the 140s.lnsl123 wrote:What do you mean by that? Like because they're more common than a high LSAT score?Mr_Chukes wrote:I can see that. GPA has a more significant impact.lnsl123 wrote:It seems to me that a majority of AA applicants who are admitted to top schools are admitted because of their GPAs vs. LSAT.
I am pretty sure this is not the case. Or at least there is a strong indication that is is not the case.lnsl123 wrote: and the LSAT is predictive of bar exam performance.
Probably not. GPA shows you are willing to work hard and learn all through college. The same dedication you can put towards law school. There are many variables that can mess you up on the LSAT.lnsl123 wrote:Perhaps I would use a word other than 'predictive', but I think as a 0L, your LSAT has a stronger relation to bar passage than GPA.usaorbust wrote:I am pretty sure this is not the case. Or at least there is a strong indication that is is not the case.lnsl123 wrote: and the LSAT is predictive of bar exam performance.
a 3.8 is a 3.8 anywhere. If the school is an accredited school. It doesn't matter.lnsl123 wrote:And there are many variables, perhaps far more, that can affect your GPA. For example, one's undergraduate experience varies greatly from school to school. Some schools have grade inflation. Some have grade deflation. The experience of being AA at the University of Chicago is very different from being AA at Morehouse.Mr_Chukes wrote:Probably not. GPA shows you are willing to work hard and learn all through college. The same dedication you can put towards law school. There are many variables that can mess you up on the LSAT.lnsl123 wrote:Perhaps I would use a word other than 'predictive', but I think as a 0L, your LSAT has a stronger relation to bar passage than GPA.usaorbust wrote:I am pretty sure this is not the case. Or at least there is a strong indication that is is not the case.lnsl123 wrote: and the LSAT is predictive of bar exam performance.
Also, your GPA is a reflection of what classes you took. Perhaps your coursework was generally more intense or challenging than someone else's. Perhaps your school has a core curriculum that includes subjects that you are particularly gifted or not gifted in. Perhaps your school is just notorious for being academically intense with grade deflation, on the quarter system in a city with brutally depressing winters.
My point is that the LSAT is pretty uniform, whereas GPA is not. What does it mean to have a 3.8 GPA from [insert school]? I don't know unless I went there. I know what a 168 on the LSAT means.
They might just look at it at 3.8 vs 3.8 when they have two people who have similar stats, but I don't think it would be a significant factor. Softs would probably take more priority.lnsl123 wrote:Yeah, you're right.Mr_Chukes wrote:a 3.8 is a 3.8 anywhere. If the school is an accredited school. It doesn't matter.lnsl123 wrote:And there are many variables, perhaps far more, that can affect your GPA. For example, one's undergraduate experience varies greatly from school to school. Some schools have grade inflation. Some have grade deflation. The experience of being AA at the University of Chicago is very different from being AA at Morehouse.Mr_Chukes wrote:Probably not. GPA shows you are willing to work hard and learn all through college. The same dedication you can put towards law school. There are many variables that can mess you up on the LSAT.lnsl123 wrote:Perhaps I would use a word other than 'predictive', but I think as a 0L, your LSAT has a stronger relation to bar passage than GPA.usaorbust wrote:I am pretty sure this is not the case. Or at least there is a strong indication that is is not the case.lnsl123 wrote: and the LSAT is predictive of bar exam performance.
Also, your GPA is a reflection of what classes you took. Perhaps your coursework was generally more intense or challenging than someone else's. Perhaps your school has a core curriculum that includes subjects that you are particularly gifted or not gifted in. Perhaps your school is just notorious for being academically intense with grade deflation, on the quarter system in a city with brutally depressing winters.
My point is that the LSAT is pretty uniform, whereas GPA is not. What does it mean to have a 3.8 GPA from [insert school]? I don't know unless I went there. I know what a 168 on the LSAT means.
While I would agree that *in general* the LSAT is a good indicator of your general capabilities (excluding the fact that someone who has no job/a semester off/still in school has way more time to prepare than someone working a full time job and that some are far better at standardized tests than others), I think my GPA is far more indicative of my ability to perform.lnsl123 wrote:And there are many variables, perhaps far more, that can affect your GPA. For example, one's undergraduate experience varies greatly from school to school. Some schools have grade inflation. Some have grade deflation. The experience of being AA at the University of Chicago is very different from being AA at Morehouse.Mr_Chukes wrote:Probably not. GPA shows you are willing to work hard and learn all through college. The same dedication you can put towards law school. There are many variables that can mess you up on the LSAT.lnsl123 wrote:Perhaps I would use a word other than 'predictive', but I think as a 0L, your LSAT has a stronger relation to bar passage than GPA.usaorbust wrote:I am pretty sure this is not the case. Or at least there is a strong indication that is is not the case.lnsl123 wrote: and the LSAT is predictive of bar exam performance.
Also, your GPA is a reflection of what classes you took. Perhaps your coursework was generally more intense or challenging than someone else's. Perhaps your school has a core curriculum that includes subjects that you are particularly gifted or not gifted in. Perhaps your school is just notorious for being academically intense with grade deflation, on the quarter system in a city with brutally depressing winters.
My point is that the LSAT is pretty uniform, whereas GPA is not. What does it mean to have a 3.8 GPA from [insert school]? I don't know unless I went there. I know what a 168 on the LSAT means.