AA Male 3.70 GPA advise?
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Is a 3.70 really good enough for HYS?AfrocentricAsian wrote:Aim for 180, its doable. Use the LSAT prep section of the forum for advice on how to improve. Kill the test and then go to HYS
Yale probably not unless you get a 180. But for Stanford and especially HLS yes it's good enough.AlexanderJordan wrote:Is a 3.70 really good enough for HYS?AfrocentricAsian wrote:Aim for 180, its doable. Use the LSAT prep section of the forum for advice on how to improve. Kill the test and then go to HYS
You have a very good GPA (good job!). So, you're looking at 160 minimum in general for any of the schools you're targeting. More specifically...AlexanderJordan wrote:I currently have a 3.70 GPA and have been studying for the LSAT for around a month now. I have taken 4 practice exams thus far and improved from a 148 on my first to a 157 on my fourth. I am curious about what I would have to achieve on the actual test for the schools I wish to attend. Time for studying is not much of a factor as I am taking the test June 2016. I will of course be aiming for the highest possible score, but I just wanted some insight on where I could feel confident in my results. Thanks!
Schools I am hopeful for:
1) Top 14 (especially Stanford, Berkley, Northwestern, NYU, Chicago, Columbia)
2) UCLA
3) USC
4) Emory
I should also note that I am aiming for a 164 by the end of may!
Yea...as a black applicant with that gpa, the only thing that's stopping you from getting into those schools is the LSAT. Put all of your time and energy into it.AlexanderJordan wrote:Is a 3.70 really good enough for HYS?AfrocentricAsian wrote:Aim for 180, its doable. Use the LSAT prep section of the forum for advice on how to improve. Kill the test and then go to HYS
Definitely good enough for H. 3.7+/165+ gives you a better than coin flip's chance at H.AlexanderJordan wrote:Is a 3.70 really good enough for HYS?AfrocentricAsian wrote:Aim for 180, its doable. Use the LSAT prep section of the forum for advice on how to improve. Kill the test and then go to HYS
Aim as high as you can. No short circuiting. If you get a 164 you will have stats almost identical to mine and I've cracked schools in the T-14 and some in the T-6AlexanderJordan wrote:I currently have a 3.70 GPA and have been studying for the LSAT for around a month now. I have taken 4 practice exams thus far and improved from a 148 on my first to a 157 on my fourth. I am curious about what I would have to achieve on the actual test for the schools I wish to attend. Time for studying is not much of a factor as I am taking the test June 2016. I will of course be aiming for the highest possible score, but I just wanted some insight on where I could feel confident in my results. Thanks!
Schools I am hopeful for:
1) Top 14 (especially Stanford, Berkley, Northwestern, NYU, Chicago, Columbia)
2) UCLA
3) USC
4) Emory
I should also note that I am aiming for a 164 by the end of may!
A 167+ would get me good money in top 6?Barack O'Drama wrote:3.7 with URM can get you any of CCN and H with $ with the right LSAT. Get it to a 167+ and shoot of course for 180. You got it!
Folks in the 3.7/167+ range have gotten $90-$105 from Columbia in the past, so yes. Chicago is very stingy and I haven't seen much from NYU other than AnBryce/RTK folks. I don't remember seeing many URMs in these parts who take NYU with just your standard merit scholarship.AlexanderJordan wrote:A 167+ would get me good money in top 6?Barack O'Drama wrote:3.7 with URM can get you any of CCN and H with $ with the right LSAT. Get it to a 167+ and shoot of course for 180. You got it!
No chance at T-14. Apply only to Nova Southeastern or Barry. Maybe a Hail Mary at Cooley if you're feeling confident.ConLaw2017 wrote:Hi All,
I will be applying to law schools later this year. However, I am quite concerned about my job prospects which I have been told (either rightly or wrongly) is more or less indexed to the quality of the school one attends. Would anyone be willing to give me advice on the LSAT score I would need in order to have a chance at Yale, Harvard, Stanford, Columbia, Chicago, UVA, Texas, and Penn? Full disclosure - I know that YHS tend to be a black boxs but I am simply seeking a well informed estimate at this point. Here are my stats
UGPA: 4.06; Rank x<3%
Institution: HYPS
Ethnicity: AA
Sex: Male
LSAT: Unknown but projected to be between 160-170 (yes, I know that this does not provide much guidance)
Major: Political Science/Minor History
Extracurricular Activities: Debate, Black Pre-Law Association, NAACP, ACLU, Undergrad History Journal, SLS Law Review (no questions - please), Investments Club, Political Science Honor Society, History Honor Society, American Criminal Justice Honor Society, FEDSOC, ACS, ABA, and Texas Notary Public, Two mid level positions in student government
Publications: Academic Papers in 4 different journals and political articles in 3 different publications
Letters of recommendation: These guys: https://law.stanford.edu/directory/mich ... cconnell/; https://law.stanford.edu/directory/nathaniel-persily/
Work Experience: RA for 4 different law professors working in 4 different disciplines and worked for a presidential candidate in the current cycle (I will not name him)
Softs: Undergraduate transcript has 10 law school classes on it and counting (will this hurt me?), single parent household and the whole nine yards in terms of hard upbringing in an urban area
Thanks Again!
Regrettably, your softs are lacking. The top schools are really only looking for 3+ years partner experience at a V5.Iam3hunna wrote:No chance at T-14. Apply only to Nova Southeastern or Barry. Maybe a Hail Mary at Cooley if you're feeling confident.ConLaw2017 wrote:Hi All,
I will be applying to law schools later this year. However, I am quite concerned about my job prospects which I have been told (either rightly or wrongly) is more or less indexed to the quality of the school one attends. Would anyone be willing to give me advice on the LSAT score I would need in order to have a chance at Yale, Harvard, Stanford, Columbia, Chicago, UVA, Texas, and Penn? Full disclosure - I know that YHS tend to be a black boxs but I am simply seeking a well informed estimate at this point. Here are my stats
UGPA: 4.06; Rank x<3%
Institution: HYPS
Ethnicity: AA
Sex: Male
LSAT: Unknown but projected to be between 160-170 (yes, I know that this does not provide much guidance)
Major: Political Science/Minor History
Extracurricular Activities: Debate, Black Pre-Law Association, NAACP, ACLU, Undergrad History Journal, SLS Law Review (no questions - please), Investments Club, Political Science Honor Society, History Honor Society, American Criminal Justice Honor Society, FEDSOC, ACS, ABA, and Texas Notary Public, Two mid level positions in student government
Publications: Academic Papers in 4 different journals and political articles in 3 different publications
Letters of recommendation: These guys: https://law.stanford.edu/directory/mich ... cconnell/; https://law.stanford.edu/directory/nathaniel-persily/
Work Experience: RA for 4 different law professors working in 4 different disciplines and worked for a presidential candidate in the current cycle (I will not name him)
Softs: Undergraduate transcript has 10 law school classes on it and counting (will this hurt me?), single parent household and the whole nine yards in terms of hard upbringing in an urban area
Thanks Again!
You're good almost everywhere you go +165 or above, with maybe the exception of Yale. These guys are just giving you a hard time.ConLaw2017 wrote:Hi All,
I will be applying to law schools later this year. However, I am quite concerned about my job prospects which I have been told (either rightly or wrongly) is more or less indexed to the quality of the school one attends. Would anyone be willing to give me advice on the LSAT score I would need in order to have a chance at Yale, Harvard, Stanford, Columbia, Chicago, UVA, Texas, and Penn? Full disclosure - I know that YHS tend to be a black boxs but I am simply seeking a well informed estimate at this point. Here are my stats
UGPA: 4.06; Rank x<3%
Institution: HYPS
Ethnicity: AA
Sex: Male
LSAT: Unknown but projected to be between 160-170 (yes, I know that this does not provide much guidance)
Major: Political Science/Minor History
Extracurricular Activities: Debate, Black Pre-Law Association, NAACP, ACLU, Undergrad History Journal, SLS Law Review (no questions - please), Investments Club, Political Science Honor Society, History Honor Society, American Criminal Justice Honor Society, FEDSOC, ACS, ABA, and Texas Notary Public, Two mid level positions in student government
Publications: Academic Papers in 4 different journals and political articles in 3 different publications
Letters of recommendation: These guys: https://law.stanford.edu/directory/mich ... cconnell/; https://law.stanford.edu/directory/nathaniel-persily/
Work Experience: RA for 4 different law professors working in 4 different disciplines and worked for a presidential candidate in the current cycle (I will not name him)
Softs: Undergraduate transcript has 10 law school classes on it and counting (will this hurt me?), single parent household and the whole nine yards in terms of hard upbringing in an urban area
Thanks Again!
I probably should have included Arizona State as well since I am from Arizona. Do you mind if I ask the same question about that school as well? As well as what score it would take to get a scholarship there? Thanks again!fliptrip wrote:You have a very good GPA (good job!). So, you're looking at 160 minimum in general for any of the schools you're targeting. More specifically...AlexanderJordan wrote:I currently have a 3.70 GPA and have been studying for the LSAT for around a month now. I have taken 4 practice exams thus far and improved from a 148 on my first to a 157 on my fourth. I am curious about what I would have to achieve on the actual test for the schools I wish to attend. Time for studying is not much of a factor as I am taking the test June 2016. I will of course be aiming for the highest possible score, but I just wanted some insight on where I could feel confident in my results. Thanks!
Schools I am hopeful for:
1) Top 14 (especially Stanford, Berkley, Northwestern, NYU, Chicago, Columbia)
2) UCLA
3) USC
4) Emory
I should also note that I am aiming for a 164 by the end of may!
1. Stanford-165
2. Columbia-160
3. Chicago-161
4. Berkeley-160
5. UCLA (these guys are weird)-165
6. Emory-155, yup, folks get in there with a 155. They are paying sticker no doubt, so you don't want to be them.
7. NYU-160
8. NW-160
9. USC-160
Keep studying! Get that score as high as you can!
For Arizona State with a 3.7 anything above a 160 should be a safe bet to get some $$ What are your goals post law school? If you're looking to work in Arizona then that may be an option with a fully scholly. However, with that GPA you have the potential to go to a much higher ranked school with better national recognition...AlexanderJordan wrote:I probably should have included Arizona State as well since I am from Arizona. Do you mind if I ask the same question about that school as well? As well as what score it would take to get a scholarship there? Thanks again!fliptrip wrote:You have a very good GPA (good job!). So, you're looking at 160 minimum in general for any of the schools you're targeting. More specifically...AlexanderJordan wrote:I currently have a 3.70 GPA and have been studying for the LSAT for around a month now. I have taken 4 practice exams thus far and improved from a 148 on my first to a 157 on my fourth. I am curious about what I would have to achieve on the actual test for the schools I wish to attend. Time for studying is not much of a factor as I am taking the test June 2016. I will of course be aiming for the highest possible score, but I just wanted some insight on where I could feel confident in my results. Thanks!
Schools I am hopeful for:
1) Top 14 (especially Stanford, Berkley, Northwestern, NYU, Chicago, Columbia)
2) UCLA
3) USC
4) Emory
I should also note that I am aiming for a 164 by the end of may!
1. Stanford-165
2. Columbia-160
3. Chicago-161
4. Berkeley-160
5. UCLA (these guys are weird)-165
6. Emory-155, yup, folks get in there with a 155. They are paying sticker no doubt, so you don't want to be them.
7. NYU-160
8. NW-160
9. USC-160
Keep studying! Get that score as high as you can!
Thanks for the reply. I am from Arizona and have lived there my entire life so I wouldn't be opposed to working there after school. I know the big law appeal isn't the greatest and the average salary isn't at 160k, but it's where I grew up and all of my family is lol. If I did want to practice in Arizona then ASU on a full scholarship doesn't sound too bad.Barack O'Drama wrote:For Arizona State with a 3.7 anything above a 160 should be a safe bet to get some $$ What are your goals post law school? If you're looking to work in Arizona then that may be an option with a fully scholly. However, with that GPA you have the potential to go to a much higher ranked school with better national recognition...AlexanderJordan wrote:I probably should have included Arizona State as well since I am from Arizona. Do you mind if I ask the same question about that school as well? As well as what score it would take to get a scholarship there? Thanks again!fliptrip wrote:You have a very good GPA (good job!). So, you're looking at 160 minimum in general for any of the schools you're targeting. More specifically...AlexanderJordan wrote:I currently have a 3.70 GPA and have been studying for the LSAT for around a month now. I have taken 4 practice exams thus far and improved from a 148 on my first to a 157 on my fourth. I am curious about what I would have to achieve on the actual test for the schools I wish to attend. Time for studying is not much of a factor as I am taking the test June 2016. I will of course be aiming for the highest possible score, but I just wanted some insight on where I could feel confident in my results. Thanks!
Schools I am hopeful for:
1) Top 14 (especially Stanford, Berkley, Northwestern, NYU, Chicago, Columbia)
2) UCLA
3) USC
4) Emory
I should also note that I am aiming for a 164 by the end of may!
1. Stanford-165
2. Columbia-160
3. Chicago-161
4. Berkeley-160
5. UCLA (these guys are weird)-165
6. Emory-155, yup, folks get in there with a 155. They are paying sticker no doubt, so you don't want to be them.
7. NYU-160
8. NW-160
9. USC-160
Keep studying! Get that score as high as you can!
I'm a little late, but I still want to put my two cents in! Ok, your current stats are similar to mine (3.8, 155) and I got into some pretty good schools. I'd say you have a shot at all T14, even with the 157, except HYS. Very small chances at CCN, but a chance nonetheless. UCLA is very unpredictable. You're good, with money, at Emory and USC for sure (woohoo, that's where I'm going! lol). If you can crack a 165, you'll be in a great place!AlexanderJordan wrote:I currently have a 3.70 GPA and have been studying for the LSAT for around a month now. I have taken 4 practice exams thus far and improved from a 148 on my first to a 157 on my fourth. I am curious about what I would have to achieve on the actual test for the schools I wish to attend. Time for studying is not much of a factor as I am taking the test June 2016. I will of course be aiming for the highest possible score, but I just wanted some insight on where I could feel confident in my results. Thanks!
Schools I am hopeful for:
1) Top 14 (especially Stanford, Berkley, Northwestern, NYU, Chicago, Columbia)
2) UCLA
3) USC
4) Emory
I should also note that I am aiming for a 164 by the end of may!