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Send more t14 apps, even if you wouldn't go you could use them to leverage scholarships

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narwhalsrfun wrote:Apply to more and still ED Penn or apply to more and don't ED? I'm scared I'd lose my only shot if I RD :s

I wouldn't ED. Penn likes to see people who want to go to their school, if you could write a great Why Penn essay about how it's your first choice I think you could get in.

I caution you not to become too attached to a particular school. I'm pretty sure debt at repayment for Penn at sticker would be over $300,000. Literally no school is worth that much money.

I'd blanket CCN on down if I were you and toss an app to H because why not.

lc39 wrote:
I'd blanket CCN on down if I were you and toss an app to H because why not.

This. Your GPA is really sweet. You're going to want to give yourself a chance at as many schools as possible. I'm definitely anti ED'ing at Penn. $300k is too much for any law school, and if you are serious about PI, you can forget it if you have that much debt to repay...you'll have to do BigLaw. Now, I don't know about Penn's LRAP, but I just wouldn't count on it. You might even want to include S in your apps (they do like high GPAs) and I know Berkeley loves those high GPAs and isn't so hooked to LSAT.

Either way, I definitely don't think you're in bad shape. Good luck!

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cc78 wrote:

lc39 wrote:
I'd blanket CCN on down if I were you and toss an app to H because why not.

This. Your GPA is really sweet. You're going to want to give yourself a chance at as many schools as possible. I'm definitely anti ED'ing at Penn. $300k is too much for any law school, and if you are serious about PI, you can forget it if you have that much debt to repay...you'll have to do BigLaw. Now, I don't know about Penn's LRAP, but I just wouldn't count on it. You might even want to include S in your apps (they do like high GPAs) and I know Berkeley loves those high GPAs and isn't so hooked to LSAT.

Either way, I definitely don't think you're in bad shape. Good luck!

I would blanket the entire T14. URM cycles are unpredictable, and you never know what might happen. Example MA cycle with similar stats: http://lawschoolnumbers.com/davee817

Obviously one cycle doesn't mean you're going to get in, but it at least tells you that you might have a shot. Apply to the entire T14 and see what happens.

Edit: Haha, scooped. Since sesto already linked that guy, here's another MA: http://lawschoolnumbers.com/anthony1027

If you don't get one of HYS or a t-14 for free, then I would strongly advise you against going this cycle and retaking or applying earlier next cycle.

That GPA is too good, don't sell yourself short.

Here's another MA example: http://lawschoolnumbers.com/zer0

hello, person who is kinda like me! (MA/3.9/168)

see above. i applied to every t14 and nothing else. most(?) schools are, at bottom, amenable to negotiations, especially if they really like you. hence, apply broadly to maximize leverage.

excited to see what happens with us. of course, if you don't like your options, pass, retake, and reapply.

edit: yeah, that school list is whack imo; don't bother with GW or UCLA.

Yeah, I just re-read your background and it would be a CRIME if you didn't apply to NYU, I'm rapidly learning its the home of the PI-minded set.

cc78 wrote:Yeah, I just re-read your background and it would be a CRIME if you didn't apply to NYU, I'm rapidly learning its the home of the PI-minded set.

Subtle Berkeley trolling right here.

OP if you do apply to NYU and you're also 1st gen then apply to AnBryce as well. If you're PI then apply to the RTK program too.

sesto elemento wrote:
Subtle Berkeley trolling right here.

going to go learn more about Berkeley right now.

you're in at middle of pack of t14 with $ and in lower t14 $$, $$$

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narwhalsrfun wrote:Do you all really think that I have a chance at at least one RD? I know lawyers shouldn't be risk adverse, but I contribute a lot to household expenses and the app fees are kind of scary when the median LSAT is so daunting :s To the person who suggested that lower schools might give some scholarship money, where would you suggest applying and do you think the lateness of this cycle would hurt a lot?

Thank you all so much--these are uncharted waters for me and I really don't have anyone to ask these questions to. To the person who mentioned NYU, I am not first generation--one parent has a GED and the other is a school nurse. To the person who asked if I was committed to PI, I am--most of my work has been in international and domestic organizing of migrant workers, which relates to my family situation, and is why I want to go into labor law.

Sorry meant 1st gen professional. You qualify for Anbryce as long as your parents don't have a JD, MBA, PhD.
Don't pay for fee waivers, email schools and let them know you're MA and give them your numbers and ask for fee waivers. You should only be paying for LSAC reports with those numbers. PM if you have other questions.

Also check out the URM forum.

narwhalsrfun wrote:Do you all really think that I have a chance at at least one RD? I know lawyers shouldn't be risk adverse, but I contribute a lot to household expenses and the app fees are kind of scary when the median LSAT is so daunting :s To the person who suggested that lower schools might give some scholarship money, where would you suggest applying and do you think the lateness of this cycle would hurt a lot?

Thank you all so much--these are uncharted waters for me and I really don't have anyone to ask these questions to. To the person who mentioned NYU, I am not first generation--one parent has a GED and didn't have the means to go further but the other went to college to be a school nurse. To the person who asked if I was committed to PI, I am--most of my work has been in international and domestic organizing of migrant workers, which relates to my immediate family situation, and is why I want to go into labor law.

Most lawyers I know are VERY risk-averse...that's why you want them around.

narwhalsrfun wrote: Three majors

Was this all at once? If so how many hours of classes did you take each semester and how many years did that take you?

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narwhalsrfun wrote:The three majors were all at once and in 4 years and most semesters were max credit load-- I came into college with a lot of credits and tested out of some classes, which helped a lot. Also, all of the majors were challenging, but none was a hard science, which would have made that impossible.

Well, superb job then. My most sincere best wishes to you.

Apply early but I think applying right now is early enough and just advise the schools that another score will be forth coming and it the score is better, that will help them further evaluate your app in January when the new score is available. I am just saying that I think it is to your benefit to submit your apps now and then submit the December score when it is available.

You asked a question about lower ranked schools with dollars. Look at the geographic area where you want to practice. Look at the schools reputation/placement ability in that geographic area. If you there is a lower ranked school that places well in your chosen area and they give you big dollars, this may as good or better than T14 for your especially when you may have to take on more debt at a T14 to get the same job you could have gotten out of the lower ranked school

What makes it a difficult decision is the fact that you don't know if you can get the job you want out of the lower ranked school that you chose because of the better scholarship offer. So there are risks either way.

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