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I hwould help. If someone was in a similar situation - what did you do?
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Re: Moral dilemma -I believe I am an URM, would you consider me?
Hispanic does not denote a race but a culture. Roughly 50 percent or more of South America is racially white if I remember correctly.t0wlie wrote:I have always somewhat identified proudly as Hispanic and Mexican-American. My grandmother was born in Mexico, my dad's last name before he was adopted legally by his step father was Quezada, and I am nearly 1/4 Mexican. My grandpa on the other side was born in Spain, my mom's maiden name is Rubio, and I am more than 1/4 Spanish (some from my dads side as well.)
I know there is a major URM minority boost, but because many would identify me outwardly as a Caucasian female (although I am somewhat dark complected) I do not know if it would be morally right to identify myself as an URM on my law school applications.
Any advice you have would help. If someone was in a similar situation - what did you do?
In other words, you are URM.
PS-Even Spanish people who are white are Hispanic, and therefore URM.
Enjoy.
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Re: Moral dilemma -I believe I am an URM, would you consider me?
No, being Spanish does not make someone URM. Being "Hispanic" doesn't matter for URM. Being Mexican or Puerto Rican is what matters. OP, if you are 1/4 Mexican it is fine to say you're URM.Helicio wrote:Hispanic does not denote a race but a culture. Roughly 50 percent or more of South America is racially white if I remember correctly.t0wlie wrote:I have always somewhat identified proudly as Hispanic and Mexican-American. My grandmother was born in Mexico, my dad's last name before he was adopted legally by his step father was Quezada, and I am nearly 1/4 Mexican. My grandpa on the other side was born in Spain, my mom's maiden name is Rubio, and I am more than 1/4 Spanish (some from my dads side as well.)
I know there is a major URM minority boost, but because many would identify me outwardly as a Caucasian female (although I am somewhat dark complected) I do not know if it would be morally right to identify myself as an URM on my law school applications.
Any advice you have would help. If someone was in a similar situation - what did you do?
In other words, you are URM.
PS-Even Spanish people who are white are Hispanic, and therefore URM.
Enjoy.
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Re: Moral dilemma -I believe I am an URM, would you consider me?
Ah, my bad. Anyway OP, you are still URM so put it down and don't feel guilty.aekea wrote:No, being Spanish does not make someone URM. Being "Hispanic" doesn't matter for URM. Being Mexican or Puerto Rican is what matters. OP, if you are 1/4 Mexican it is fine to say you're URM.Helicio wrote:Hispanic does not denote a race but a culture. Roughly 50 percent or more of South America is racially white if I remember correctly.t0wlie wrote:I have always somewhat identified proudly as Hispanic and Mexican-American. My grandmother was born in Mexico, my dad's last name before he was adopted legally by his step father was Quezada, and I am nearly 1/4 Mexican. My grandpa on the other side was born in Spain, my mom's maiden name is Rubio, and I am more than 1/4 Spanish (some from my dads side as well.)
I know there is a major URM minority boost, but because many would identify me outwardly as a Caucasian female (although I am somewhat dark complected) I do not know if it would be morally right to identify myself as an URM on my law school applications.
Any advice you have would help. If someone was in a similar situation - what did you do?
In other words, you are URM.
PS-Even Spanish people who are white are Hispanic, and therefore URM.
Enjoy.
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Re: Moral dilemma -I believe I am an URM, would you consider me?
Check the boxHelicio wrote: don't feel guilty.
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Re: Moral dilemma -I believe I am an URM, would you consider me?
Have you identified yourself as Mexican/Hispanic on prior forms? If you have done that as well, you are definitely fine. But, if you haven't, there may be some problems.
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Re: Moral dilemma -I believe I am an URM, would you consider me?
I am Charizard.Nova wrote:Check the boxHelicio wrote: don't feel guilty.
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Re: Moral dilemma -I believe I am an URM, would you consider me?
ROARHelicio wrote:I am Charizard.Nova wrote:Check the boxHelicio wrote: don't feel guilty.
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Re: Moral dilemma -I believe I am an URM, would you consider me?
Charizard uses *body slam* -200 HP! KONova wrote:ROARHelicio wrote:I am Charizard.Nova wrote:Check the boxHelicio wrote: don't feel guilty.
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Re: Moral dilemma -I believe I am an URM, would you consider me?
I think people overestimate the boost the URMs receive.t0wlie wrote:I know there is a major URM minority boost
Anywho... if you consider yourself a minority, you should mark yourself as one. I do have issues with people "becoming" a minority when its convenient for them, but if you say you've always identified as Mexican-American/Spanish (though I don't know if Spanish counts as a URM), then go for it.
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Re: Moral dilemma -I believe I am an URM, would you consider me?
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Re: Moral dilemma -I believe I am an URM, would you consider me?
That's strange. You've always identified with being Mexican-American but from what you're saying you're only a 1/4 MA and you've got more Spanish-American lineage than Mexican-American.
I don't think it'd be disingenuous to put down URM if you've self-identified with being Mexican-American in the past moreso than you've identified with being Spanish-American but I personally wouldn't consider you to be a URM so I voted "No".
I've always self-identified as Puerto Rican but I also know that my biological grandfather on my father's side is Cuban making me about 7/8 Puerto Rican and 1/8 Cuban. (Or something like that. My math is horrendous.)
I don't think it'd be disingenuous to put down URM if you've self-identified with being Mexican-American in the past moreso than you've identified with being Spanish-American but I personally wouldn't consider you to be a URM so I voted "No".
I've always self-identified as Puerto Rican but I also know that my biological grandfather on my father's side is Cuban making me about 7/8 Puerto Rican and 1/8 Cuban. (Or something like that. My math is horrendous.)
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Re: Moral dilemma -I believe I am an URM, would you consider me?
News Flash: You don't have to be dark to be hispanic.
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Re: Moral dilemma -I believe I am an URM, would you consider me?
I wasn't saying that she's not "Hispanic". I'm just saying that she's only 1/4 Mexican and she's presumably over 1/3 Spanish, so I personally believe that she shouldn't be considered a URM.chimp wrote:News Flash: You don't have to be dark to be hispanic.
If one of her parents was Mexican, then I think there'd be a much stronger case for claiming URM on law school apps.
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Re: Moral dilemma -I believe I am an URM, would you consider me?
My comment was in reference to OP's "many would identify me outwardly as a Caucasian female" statement.DaRascal wrote:I wasn't saying that she's not "Hispanic". I'm just saying that she's only 1/4 Mexican and she's presumably over 1/3 Spanish, so I personally believe that she shouldn't be considered a URM.chimp wrote:News Flash: You don't have to be dark to be hispanic.
If one of her parents was Mexican, then I think there'd be a much stronger case for claiming URM on law school apps.