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GLBT is a URM

Posted: Sun May 01, 2011 8:13 pm
by upyours
Why are GLBT people not URM?

Re: GLBT is a URM

Posted: Sun May 01, 2011 8:15 pm
by Bildungsroman
What evidence do you have that GLBT people are underrepresented in the legal field?

Re: GLBT is a URM

Posted: Sun May 01, 2011 8:15 pm
by bk1
Because schools say so.

/thread

Re: GLBT is a URM

Posted: Sun May 01, 2011 8:18 pm
by dr123
Probably because its harder to verify

Re: GLBT is a URM

Posted: Sun May 01, 2011 8:48 pm
by JG Hall
I'd say the L and the T, not so much the G or the B.

Re: GLBT is a URM

Posted: Sun May 01, 2011 8:49 pm
by paulinaporizkova
because we're still rich and white

/thread

Re: GLBT is a URM

Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 4:49 pm
by subtle
paulinaporizkova wrote:because we're still rich and white

/thread
Speak for yourself. ;)

Re: GLBT is a URM

Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 5:02 pm
by Upton Sinclair
dr123 wrote:Probably because its harder to verify
This. I would absolutely pull a Chuck and Larry if it got me into HYS.

Re: GLBT is a URM

Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 5:07 pm
by ResolutePear
Upton Sinclair wrote:
dr123 wrote:Probably because its harder to verify
This. I would absolutely pull a Chuck and Larry if it got me into HYS.
Sup.

Re: GLBT is a URM

Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 6:15 pm
by whirledpeas86
paulinaporizkova wrote:because we're still rich and white

/thread
No.

Re: GLBT is a URM

Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 8:06 pm
by johnnyutah
paulinaporizkova wrote:because we're still rich and white

/thread
Tell that to the black trans female sex workers I had for clients last summer.

Re: GLBT is a URM

Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 8:07 pm
by DoubleChecks
Bildungsroman wrote:What evidence do you have that GLBT people are underrepresented in the legal field?
+1, and prob the verification issue adds to that

Re: GLBT is a URM

Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 8:09 pm
by Cupidity
1. GBLT are over-represented, at least at my school and in my market.

Re: GLBT is a URM

Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 8:13 pm
by Corwin
johnnyutah wrote:
paulinaporizkova wrote:because we're still rich and white

/thread
Tell that to the black trans female sex workers I had for clients last summer.
Well that's the point isn't it. The disadvantaged people within LGBT are usually URMs. Rich white gay people on the other hand really don't have that many problems. Trans people might be the only exception to this rule. Not sure if we have enough data to say whether they are underrepresented in the legal field though.

Re: GLBT is a URM

Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 8:13 pm
by BrianGriffintheDog
GLBT is a sexual orientation, not a racial background. Apparently, in law school, race > sexual orientation.

Re: GLBT is a URM

Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 8:14 pm
by Corwin
paulinaporizkova wrote:because we're still rich and white

/thread
This is pretty narrow minded. The most disadvantaged people in the group you subscribe to are poor and minorities.

Re: GLBT is a URM

Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 8:16 pm
by 071816
ResolutePear wrote:
Upton Sinclair wrote:
dr123 wrote:Probably because its harder to verify
This. I would absolutely pull a Chuck and Larry if it got me into HYS.
Sup.
LOL

Re: GLBT is a URM

Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 8:18 pm
by johnnyutah
Corwin wrote:
johnnyutah wrote:
paulinaporizkova wrote:because we're still rich and white

/thread
Tell that to the black trans female sex workers I had for clients last summer.
Well that's the point isn't it. The disadvantaged people within LGBT are usually URMs. Rich white gay people on the other hand really don't have that many problems. Trans people might be the only exception to this rule. Not sure if we have enough data to say whether they are underrepresented in the legal field though.
(1) My point was just that not all LGBT folks are rich and white.
(2) There are most certainly white LGBT individuals who suffer a great deal of disadvantage because of their LGBT status - they just don't live in the upper-middle-class coastal neighborhoods that most law students come from.

Re: GLBT is a URM

Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 8:20 pm
by Corwin
johnnyutah wrote:
Corwin wrote:
johnnyutah wrote:
paulinaporizkova wrote:because we're still rich and white

/thread
Tell that to the black trans female sex workers I had for clients last summer.
Well that's the point isn't it. The disadvantaged people within LGBT are usually URMs. Rich white gay people on the other hand really don't have that many problems. Trans people might be the only exception to this rule. Not sure if we have enough data to say whether they are underrepresented in the legal field though.
(1) My point was just that not all LGBT folks are rich and white.
(2) There are most certainly white LGBT individuals who suffer a great deal of disadvantage because of their LGBT status - they just don't live in the upper-middle-class coastal neighborhoods that most law students come from.
I hear ya. You didn't work at SRLP last summer did you?

Re: GLBT is a URM

Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 8:33 pm
by johnnyutah
Corwin wrote: I hear ya. You didn't work at SRLP last summer did you?
No, but I've heard that they do good work.

Re: GLBT is a URM

Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 8:44 pm
by ImpatientlyWaiting
The whole point of giving boosts to URMs is that they're underrepresented and disadvantaged as a group. There is no reason to think that sexual minorities would have a harder time getting into law school than straight people, and they aren't underrepresented. There is no need for a boost.

Re: GLBT is a URM

Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 8:48 pm
by ResolutePear
GLBT shouldn't be a URM, because sexual orientation should not come up in school or hiring.

Re: GLBT is a URM

Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 8:59 pm
by johnnyutah
ImpatientlyWaiting wrote:There is no reason to think that sexual minorities would have a harder time getting into law school than straight people
I can think of some reasons that sexual minorities would have a harder time getting in to law school than straight people.

Re: GLBT is a URM

Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 9:01 pm
by ImpatientlyWaiting
johnnyutah wrote:
ImpatientlyWaiting wrote:There is no reason to think that sexual minorities would have a harder time getting into law school than straight people
I can think of some reasons that sexual minorities would have a harder time getting in to law school than straight people.

Again, there's no evidence to suggest that they actually do have a harder time.

Re: GLBT is a URM

Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 9:07 pm
by MrPapagiorgio
ResolutePear wrote:GLBT shouldn't be a URM, because sexual orientation should not come up in school or hiring.
And race should?