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Rand M. wrote:The only URMs for the purpose of Law School Admissions are African-Americans, Native Americans, Puerto Ricans, and Mexicans. Anyone who says anything different is just wrong. Other groups are minorities and may be able to write interesting diversity statements, but they don't receive systematic bump-like advantages in the admissions process.

jeremydc wrote:There seems to be no definite answer still.

jeremydc wrote:Lol, should have known that was comming................

You see I heard some admissions would say yes and others would say no.

So I guess my qquestion is whether or not to mark down as a URM or just to the DS instead and hope for the best?

savetheturtles wrote:Assuming the OP means native Hawaiian, wouldn't this fall under Native American?

Mr. Matlock wrote:

jeremydc wrote:Lol, should have known that was comming................

You see I heard some admissions would say yes and others would say no.

So I guess my qquestion is whether or not to mark down as a URM or just to the DS instead and hope for the best?

You heard some admissions????

Here's a test for you. If you pass it, feel free to move on with the process.

Who's advice should you take:

A: LSAC's. The people who run the whole law school admissions show.

B: Someone who told you they thought some admissions might consider you URM.

Good luck!

GAIAtheCHEERLEADER wrote:

savetheturtles wrote:Assuming the OP means native Hawaiian, wouldn't this fall under Native American?

That's right! A native Texan would also fall under Native American, as Texans and Hawaiians are both Americans.

Mr. Matlock wrote: It's all spelled out in black and white via the LSAC website:
http://www.lsac.org/specialinterests/mi ... cation.asp

Also, they seem to have taken out Mexican American and replaced it with "Latino". I wonder if they are opening up the pool?

savetheturtles wrote:

GAIAtheCHEERLEADER wrote:

savetheturtles wrote:Assuming the OP means native Hawaiian, wouldn't this fall under Native American?

That's right! A native Texan would also fall under Native American, as Texans and Hawaiians are both Americans.

There were indigenous peoples in Hawaii before it became a part of America.

savetheturtles wrote:Assuming the OP means native Hawaiian, wouldn't this fall under Native American?

American Samoa is considered “unincorporated” because the US Constitution does not apply in full. The primacy of Samoan custom over all sources of traditional law is recognized by the Samoan Constitution (enacted in 1967), by the Tripartite Convention of 1899 that created the territory and by subsequent amendments and authority. Article 1, Section 3 of the Bill of Rights of the Constitution of American Samoa states: “It shall be the policy of the government of American Samoa to protect persons of Samoan Ancestry against alienation of their lands and the destruction of the Samoan way of life and language, contrary to their best interests. Such legislation as may be necessary may be enacted to protect the lands, customs, culture and traditional Samoan family organization of persons of Samoan ancestry, and to encourage business enterprises by such persons. No change in the law respecting the alienation or transfer of land or any interest therein, shall be effective unless the same be approved by two successive legislatures by a two-thirds vote of the entire membership of each house and by the Governor.”

American Samoan natives born in the Territory are US nationals and not American citizens. American Samoans are categorized as native Americans by the US government. The Territory is represented by a non-voting member in US House of Representatives. The US Department of the Interior, Office of Insular Affairs, provides technical assistance, represents territorial views to the federal government and oversees federal expenditures and operations.

The Governor is the head of the American Samoa government. There are two legislative chambers and an independent judiciary. Administratively, the Territory is divided into three districts and two unorganized atolls, which are subdivided into 74 villages. The protocols of the Fa`amatai (chiefly system) and the Fono (council made of chiefs, or matais) operate at the family, village, regional and national levels. They decide on distribution of family exchanges and tenancy of communal lands.

rv11 wrote:

Mr. Matlock wrote:

jeremydc wrote:Lol, should have known that was comming................

You see I heard some admissions would say yes and others would say no.

So I guess my qquestion is whether or not to mark down as a URM or just to the DS instead and hope for the best?

You heard some admissions????

Here's a test for you. If you pass it, feel free to move on with the process.

Who's advice should you take:

A: LSAC's. The people who run the whole law school admissions show.

B: Someone who told you they thought some admissions might consider you URM.

Good luck!

Neither. Both of those options aren't the people who are actually evaluating applications.

jeremydc wrote:IDK what to say. I dont want to start anything I just want to know if I can check that I am a URM.

My best guess would be that each school's admissions council has thier own individual definition of a URM. Some might not see Native Hawaiian as a URM and others might.

Mr. Matlock wrote:

rv11 wrote:

Mr. Matlock wrote:

jeremydc wrote:Lol, should have known that was comming................

You see I heard some admissions would say yes and others would say no.

So I guess my qquestion is whether or not to mark down as a URM or just to the DS instead and hope for the best?

You heard some admissions????

Here's a test for you. If you pass it, feel free to move on with the process.

Who's advice should you take:

A: LSAC's. The people who run the whole law school admissions show.

B: Someone who told you they thought some admissions might consider you URM.

Good luck!

Neither. Both of those options aren't the people who are actually evaluating applications.

Aha, BUT LSAC sets the URM standard.

GAIAtheCHEERLEADER wrote:

savetheturtles wrote:

GAIAtheCHEERLEADER wrote:

savetheturtles wrote:Assuming the OP means native Hawaiian, wouldn't this fall under Native American?

That's right! A native Texan would also fall under Native American, as Texans and Hawaiians are both Americans.

There were indigenous peoples in Hawaii before it became a part of America.

*sigh*....Hawaiian =/= Native American. I don't really know what else to say without sounding like a condescending enema.

rv11 wrote:

Mr. Matlock wrote:

rv11 wrote:

Mr. Matlock wrote: You heard some admissions????

Here's a test for you. If you pass it, feel free to move on with the process.

Who's advice should you take:

A: LSAC's. The people who run the whole law school admissions show.

B: Someone who told you they thought some admissions might consider you URM.

Good luck!

Neither. Both of those options aren't the people who are actually evaluating applications.

Aha, BUT LSAC sets the URM standard.

No they don't. Applications have a different way of asking for race/ethnicity and it's ultimately up to the schools if they personally want to give that individual a boost in the admissions process. I believe the only reason people ever ask if they fall under the URM category is to see if they will receive this benefit.