Is barry a decent law school?
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oh my lord....
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zeezoo wrote:did someone actually decide to go to barry over UF?
oh my lord....
They'd be nuts if they did...
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At this level, considering "rank" or anything other than location/price is a waste of time. It'd be great if someone could link this, but there was an article that really described why the USNWR rankings are not really the same between groupings. So for instance... the difference between the #5 Columbia and #25 William and Mary (this was at the time) is tremendously different than from the #25 to the #45. Whereas 20 rankings spots when you're going to COLUMBIA is huge and can't be over stated... the difference between the #25 and #45 programs are significantly less noticeable.
When you're talking about T3/T4, you need to be looking at cost of tuition/cost to get that degree in hand. Most of these programs prove to be a bad financial plan for their graduates, so proceed with caution. There really isn't much room for T3 graduates in the market unless you're at the very top of your class.
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It was never stripped of its ABA accredation, that was a false statement. They got full accred over a year ago and they are making it harder to get in and theyre paying for $$$ top professors from great schools to fill spots. The trial team keeps winning national championships- BUT its very expensive for a no name. I do think in a few years theyre gonna be much better recognized, but its still new and has a ways to go- but they are making huge strides so quickly.
But for "coreyalan23" to think hes gonna be top 10% automatically, i laugh at that LOLOL. so you know how many UF go to that school-?? tons. I know a girl that went to Columbia (well that was weird) actually) and lots of great school undergrads. You dont think that people with 3.6 and higher and have always done well in undergrad dont go here? Its still law school and competative- your a jerkoff to think not. I had a 3.4 at University at Bufallo and im pretty sure it was a better school than yours. People go because It might be close to home, because they get a full ride or a big scholarship (like me), because theyre older and want to work full time while going to school close. My study partner was a doctor making $250K and wanted another degree for some reason.
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TITCR. He could potentially go to law school immediately and die.His choice isn't go to law school immediately or die though.
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True, there are trailers behind the faculty building. However, when I sat before Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia last year in a study abroad class, he didn't care about that. When I clerked for a judge in Tampa this summer, he didn't ask me about the trailers behind my school. While I am currently interning for an international software company, the attorneys in the legal department don't care about the facilities at my law school. The quality of my work and my professionalism concern these people. Barry prepared me well. This is the bottom line: If you are a determined, hard-working, and intelligent person, you will do very well at Barry. The cost will be lower because the school will provide you with great scholarships. You will have similar opportunities that have been available to many other students. Barry will make you a strong and ethical lawyer. But, if you do not do well and don't take law school seriously, it will be a very expensive education.
However, Barry is not Harvard. Nobody is going to offer a BMW as a sign on bonus. Now I am just rambling. http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/p ... 54bf3cb062#
:lol:But really, I have heard stories about that. Does that really happen to first tier law students when they graduate?
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Only a certain percentage are going to get merit scholarships... I don't think it's realistic to assume that only people that are not determined, hard-working, and intelligent won't get these scholarships. Most rational people who understand the legal job market would not choose a school like Barry unless they thought they could be near the top of the class. Anyone on this board can tell anecdotes about going to a poorly-ranked school, doing well, getting a scholarship, getting a great job, etc., but for every story like this there is at least one story about someone who can't find a legal job and is struggling to make their student loan payments. No one goes into law school planning on being the second story, but at any law school (and especially non-public tier 4s), people need to know that it could happen to them regardless of how smart they think they are or how they did in undergrad.BarryGirl wrote:I am a very proud Barry Law student going into my third year. I had numerous other options, including second and third tier law schools. I do not regret my decision to stay at Barry for certain reasons. First, Barry is a great school and it has some very brilliant and talented students. The only drawback within the institution is that they have a very political administration that needs to be a little more organized. However, in the two years that I have attended already, I have seen progression in that area. The professors are excellent, Trial team and Moot Court are recognized nationally, and the bar passage rate is increasing. Also, Orlando ROCKS!!!!
True, there are trailers behind the faculty building. However, when I sat before Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia last year in a study abroad class, he didn't care about that. When I clerked for a judge in Tampa this summer, he didn't ask me about the trailers behind my school. While I am currently interning for an international software company, the attorneys in the legal department don't care about the facilities at my law school. The quality of my work and my professionalism concern these people. Barry prepared me well. This is the bottom line: If you are a determined, hard-working, and intelligent person, you will do very well at Barry. The cost will be lower because the school will provide you with great scholarships. You will have similar opportunities that have been available to many other students. Barry will make you a strong and ethical lawyer. But, if you do not do well and don't take law school seriously, it will be a very expensive education.
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Ok here we go. I'm a 1L, 1st year law student at Barry. If you want a history of Barry Law, go to Wikipedia. But the story is that basically Barry University is based out of Miami, and bought out the current campus which was a regional law school and had tried and failed to get accredidation several times. Barry University bought the school in 1999, kicked off all the trustees and the dean, and basically started from scratch. They achieved provisional accreditation in 2003, and full in 2006.
I went to Hofstra University, which someone said was a 4th tier, ummm try 1st tier somewhere around the 70's or 80's. Anyway thier campus consisted of two buildings. With that said, theres a reason why there are "trailers" for some of the classrooms (there's really only three of them and they look just like regular classrooms). Barry University didn't build the campus--they bought it. And just 10 years into a law school they are more concerned about teaching law then making it look good (despite the water fountains and palm trees). Just three years after full accredidation, I'm being taught by a professor who was editor in chief of Yale law review, a professor who wrote the rules of evidence for the military and was a Fulbright scholar---and i'm in my first year.
So if you want to know whether Barry is a good law school, well, it depends. If you're asking if you're going to get a good education, then yes. If you want to get a job doing corporate law, well then you're S.O.L with ANY 3rd or 4th tier school.
So really, the best advice is rather to ask yourself first; what do you want out of a law school and what do you want to do with your degree?
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Thanks, homey. In other news, the world is round. Back to you.So really, the best advice is rather to ask yourself first; what do you want out of a law school and what do you want to do with your degree?
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Barry vs FAMU??
I graduated from UF with a 3.16 GPA in Computer Engineering, and I am taking the LSAT in December. I have about 5 years experience as a professional software engineer, and I will have about 10 by the time I graduate from a part time law program.
I have a house and job in Orlando, meaning that I can't move, so I have 2 choices for law school: FAMU and Barry.
I have a few questions about how all of this works:
1) I know my GPA is kind of low but its an engineering degree and I have a good bit of professional experience, will that help me in the app process?
2) What type of LSAT scores should I shoot for to get into these programs? Both seem to be lower tier, and I dont think admissions standards are that great. If I choose Barry I will def be going for some scholarship money tho, b/c that is a big chunk of change. I will be busting my tail the next 3 months to pass the test, but a number to shoot for would be nice.
3) Both schools are accredited, but FAMU has a really low Bar passage rate, while Barry's is pretty nice. However, FAMU has much better facilities. Are Bar passage rates really that much of a determining factor when looking for jobs that it would be worthwhile for me to pay the extra money to go to Barry?
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