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Rank the T25 -- Most liberal to most conservative

Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 4:54 pm
by kv05
Curious to see what you all think.

Re: Rank the T25 -- Most liberal to most conservative

Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 5:22 pm
by LucasHumble
I'll bite. This is just based on what I have heard/ geographical and cultural reputation.

1. Berkeley
2. UCLA
3. USC
4. NYU
5. Georgetown
6. Boston
7. Stanford
8. Columbia
9. Yale
10. George Washington
11. Washington and Lee
12. Penn
13. Harvard
14. Virginia
15. Cornell
16. Minnesota
17. WUSTL
18. Emory
19. Michigan
20. Chicago
21. Northwestern
22. Vanderbilt
23. Duke
24. Texas
25. Notre Dame

Anyone who wants to disagree, go for it.

Re: Rank the T25 -- Most liberal to most conservative

Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 5:24 pm
by badlydrawn
I heard W&L was rather conservative. Could just be the student pop., though.

Re: Rank the T25 -- Most liberal to most conservative

Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 5:25 pm
by neskerdoo
anyone who asks people to try and rank 25 schools based on this criterion is roughly as useful to society as those who will doubtless spend time responding

Re: Rank the T25 -- Most liberal to most conservative

Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 5:37 pm
by badlydrawn
neskerdoo wrote:anyone who asks people to try and rank 25 schools based on this criterion is roughly as useful to society as those who will doubtless spend time responding
I admit my own uselessness at the moment. Technically, your post is a response as well. So...

snark fail.

Re: Rank the T25 -- Most liberal to most conservative

Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 5:39 pm
by Ancitter
All I know is that Texas is pretty liberal.

Re: Rank the T25 -- Most liberal to most conservative

Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 5:43 pm
by scott82
Ancitter wrote:All I know is that Austin, Texas is pretty liberal.
Fixed.

Re: Rank the T25 -- Most liberal to most conservative

Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 5:55 pm
by SoxyPirate
neskerdoo wrote:anyone who asks people to try and rank 25 schools based on this criterion is roughly as useful to society as those who will doubtless spend time responding
Why so serious?

Re: Rank the T25 -- Most liberal to most conservative

Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 5:57 pm
by dbt
I don't think anyone has the information to be able to provide a ranking like this. It'd probably be more beneficial and reliable if people just stated what they thought were the more liberal/more conservative schools within the T25.

Re: Rank the T25 -- Most liberal to most conservative

Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 6:03 pm
by Gargon
neskerdoo wrote:anyone who asks people to try and rank 25 schools based on this criterion is roughly as useful to society as those who will doubtless spend time responding
Neskerdoo's Law

Re: Rank the T25 -- Most liberal to most conservative

Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 6:04 pm
by MYKONOS
SoxyPirate wrote:
neskerdoo wrote:anyone who asks people to try and rank 25 schools based on this criterion is roughly as useful to society as those who will doubtless spend time responding
Why so serious?


LOL!

Re: Rank the T25 -- Most liberal to most conservative

Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 6:06 pm
by SoxyPirate
MYKONOS wrote:
SoxyPirate wrote:
neskerdoo wrote:anyone who asks people to try and rank 25 schools based on this criterion is roughly as useful to society as those who will doubtless spend time responding
Why so serious?


LOL!
Damn YOU!!!! Now that I've seen your avatar I have to break out the Arrested Development DVD's and start from the beginning again! I'm not going to get anything done this weekend!

Re: Rank the T25 -- Most liberal to most conservative

Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 6:12 pm
by MYKONOS
SoxyPirate wrote:
MYKONOS wrote:
SoxyPirate wrote:
neskerdoo wrote:anyone who asks people to try and rank 25 schools based on this criterion is roughly as useful to society as those who will doubtless spend time responding
Why so serious?


LOL!
Damn YOU!!!! Now that I've seen your avatar I have to break out the Arrested Development DVD's and start from the beginning again! I'm not going to get anything done this weekend!


Now that sounds like a well spent weekend to me :wink:

Re: Rank the T25 -- Most liberal to most conservative

Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 6:35 pm
by gannak
LucasHumble wrote:
1. Berkeley


it's that intense out there? worse than nyu? :|

Re: Rank the T25 -- Most liberal to most conservative

Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 10:08 pm
by rainmaker614
LucasHumble wrote:I'll bite. This is just based on what I have heard/ geographical and cultural reputation.

1. Berkeley
2. UCLA
3. USC
4. NYU
5. Georgetown
6. Boston
7. Stanford
8. Columbia
9. Yale
10. George Washington
11. Washington and Lee
12. Penn
13. Harvard
14. Virginia
15. Cornell
16. Minnesota
17. WUSTL
18. Emory
19. Michigan
20. Chicago
21. Northwestern
22. Vanderbilt
23. Duke
24. Texas
25. Notre Dame

Anyone who wants to disagree, go for it.
I know for a fact that Michigan should be much higher in this list. I went there for early undergrad and Ann Arbor in general is one of the most liberal towns around. The school has a hash bash every year on 4/20? I know of few student bodies more liberal than the one at U of M.

Re: Rank the T25 -- Most liberal to most conservative

Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 10:38 pm
by neskerdoo
LucasHumble wrote:
bizzlemywizzle wrote:No idea what NYU is like, but not at all that intense...I doubt Lucas has even stepped foot in Berkeley. (Read my response above.) I think this is a stupid and pointless thread since nobody can accurately gauge this without attending all the schools.
Wow, you would be right. Maybe you should read my original post: This is just based on what I have heard/ geographical and cultural reputation. :roll:

the problem is that you have heard no such thing

Re: Rank the T25 -- Most liberal to most conservative

Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 10:56 pm
by Snooker
I think she meant UT - Austin is pretty liberal, just as the city there is. My theory about the region is that the University's liberals have an effect on the surrounding area, turning Austin into a pool of blue. About a tenth of the city's residents are University students or staff when it's in session and town-gown relations are spectacular.

Conservatism in Texas is rather unique for the south, owing to the state's strong oil economy and nature as a boom town. Lots of entrepreneurs moved to Texas these past fifty years and made big money while mostly ignoring religion, ethics, and politics and they'll throw their lot in with any party that lowers their taxes. Compared to Texas, the economies of most conservative states is extremely weak and culture is much more important to their brand of conservatism than Texas.

Since academia is more or less divorced from the industrial economy, the University is more or less separated from the central pillar of Texas conservatism.

Re: Rank the T25 -- Most liberal to most conservative

Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 11:07 pm
by Ancitter
Snooker wrote:I think she meant UT - Austin is pretty liberal, just as the city there is. My theory about the region is that the University's liberals have an effect on the surrounding area, turning Austin into a pool of blue. About a tenth of the city's residents are University students or staff when it's in session and town-gown relations are spectacular.

Conservatism in Texas is rather unique for the south, owing to the state's strong oil economy and nature as a boom town. Lots of entrepreneurs moved to Texas these past fifty years and made big money while mostly ignoring religion, ethics, and politics and they'll throw their lot in with any party that lowers their taxes. Compared to Texas, the economies of most conservative states is extremely weak and culture is much more important to their brand of conservatism than Texas.

Since academia is more or less divorced from the industrial economy, the University is more or less separated from the central pillar of Texas conservatism.
Mhmm. I meant UT.

Re: Rank the T25 -- Most liberal to most conservative

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 2:27 am
by countbizaller
Snooker wrote:Conservatism in Texas is rather unique for the south, owing to the state's strong oil economy and nature as a boom town. Lots of entrepreneurs moved to Texas these past fifty years and made big money while mostly ignoring religion, ethics, and politics and they'll throw their lot in with any party that lowers their taxes. Compared to Texas, the economies of most conservative states is extremely weak and culture is much more important to their brand of conservatism than Texas.
Wow. You've never been here.

Re: Rank the T25 -- Most liberal to most conservative

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 2:30 am
by Ancitter
countbizaller wrote:
Snooker wrote:Conservatism in Texas is rather unique for the south, owing to the state's strong oil economy and nature as a boom town. Lots of entrepreneurs moved to Texas these past fifty years and made big money while mostly ignoring religion, ethics, and politics and they'll throw their lot in with any party that lowers their taxes. Compared to Texas, the economies of most conservative states is extremely weak and culture is much more important to their brand of conservatism than Texas.
Wow. You've never been here.
+1

Re: Rank the T25 -- Most liberal to most conservative

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 2:31 am
by dbt
I'd agree that Texas is less conservative than the rest of the south, if that's your point. And it's also booming in a way that attracts people from across the country, rather than scrounging by with the same old populace.

It's still way too conservative for me, but it's not Alabama.

Re: Rank the T25 -- Most liberal to most conservative

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 2:32 am
by Neko83
Snooker wrote:
Conservatism in Texas is rather unique for the south, owing to the state's strong oil economy and nature as a boom town. Lots of entrepreneurs moved to Texas these past fifty years and made big money while mostly ignoring religion, ethics, and politics and they'll throw their lot in with any party that lowers their taxes. Compared to Texas, the economies of most conservative states is extremely weak and culture is much more important to their brand of conservatism than Texas.

Since academia is more or less divorced from the industrial economy, the University is more or less separated from the central pillar of Texas conservatism.
Absolutely ridiculous. Texas is extremely culturally/socially conservative. Obviously, Austin is much less so.

Re: Rank the T25 -- Most liberal to most conservative

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 4:55 am
by ksimon2007
These conservative and liberal threads seem to be useless...I would venture to say that all noteworthy law schools like all higher education institutions are made up of majority liberal faculty (democrats) and liberal students (democrats) so in essence what you all are doing is a ranking of most to least liberal....whenever liberty university law school makes it to the top 30 I will give this notion of conservative v. liberal some validity...

Re: Rank the T25 -- Most liberal to most conservative

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 10:37 am
by 20160810
USC should be one of the 5 most conservative, not one of the 5 most liberal.

Re: Rank the T25 -- Most liberal to most conservative

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 12:05 pm
by ezpar
ksimon2007 wrote:whenever liberty university law school makes it to the top 30
When is that going to happen?