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Money aside which of these schools would be better if I want to work in Atlanta?
Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2019 11:10 pm
by macejames7
Vandy, Emory, George Washington, and Notre Dame
Most of my family live near the Atlanta area so I want to move there after graduation. I'm not someone who has to work in big law, but if the opportunity presents itself I wouldn't turn it down. If all 4 of these would roughly cost 40,000 for all 3 years combined which one would be best?
I was on R/Lawschooladmissions early and it seems that UGA would be a great option, but unfortunately they have not got back to me yet?
Re: Money aside which of these schools would be better if I want to work in Atlanta?
Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2019 11:15 pm
by QContinuum
I'd plump for Vandy as the strongest overall option, but if you're dead-set on Atlanta and don't necessarily care about landing BigLaw or an A3 clerkship or the like, then Emory would also be a very strong option as it is actually in Atlanta so should help you networking-wise. I wouldn't recommend attending GWU or Notre Dame, neither of those two place particularly strongly in Atlanta.
Re: Money aside which of these schools would be better if I want to work in Atlanta?
Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2019 11:38 pm
by cavalier1138
Yeah, Vanderbilt or Emory (if you absolutely insist on going to school in Georgia). No reason you should be taking any school ranked lower than that if you're only taking out $40k in loans.
Re: Money aside which of these schools would be better if I want to work in Atlanta?
Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2019 12:01 am
by Wubbles
What do you want to do if you're not in biglaw? If those schools are that cheap, have you considered somewhere like Duke?
Re: Money aside which of these schools would be better if I want to work in Atlanta?
Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2019 12:32 am
by macejames7
Wubbles wrote:What do you want to do if you're not in biglaw? If those schools are that cheap, have you considered somewhere like Duke?
I don't really know what I'm going to do. I have interest in healthcare law and a few others. As for Duke I didn't apply because I thought my chance of getting in were basically 0. I'm a pretty extreme splitter, because of that I thought the 4 school above were my reach schools (was absolutely shocked when I got in to them).
Re: Money aside which of these schools would be better if I want to work in Atlanta?
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 12:03 am
by beinghuman
If you're not sure what you want to do then go to Vanderbilt. It would give you more options in my opinion.
macejames7 wrote:Wubbles wrote:What do you want to do if you're not in biglaw? If those schools are that cheap, have you considered somewhere like Duke?
I don't really know what I'm going to do. I have interest in healthcare law and a few others. As for Duke I didn't apply because I thought my chance of getting in were basically 0. I'm a pretty extreme splitter, because of that I thought the 4 school above were my reach schools (was absolutely shocked when I got in to them).
Re: Money aside which of these schools would be better if I want to work in Atlanta?
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:30 pm
by Sprinkler
Emory #1. UGA #2. Ga State #3. Surprising Mercer (Macon) places well in ATL. Outside of GA, bordering state grads in TN: FL do ok. Further out from GA, you’d have a good shot with Duke and UVA. Without a doubt, your GA family heritage is extremely beneficial.
Re: Money aside which of these schools would be better if I want to work in Atlanta?
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 4:38 pm
by gregfootball2001
Vandy definitely first, especially for biglaw. After that, if you're absolutely dead set on Georgia, and definitely will not be going outside the state, UGA and Emory are equal for Georgia outcomes.
Re: Money aside which of these schools would be better if I want to work in Atlanta?
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 4:59 pm
by cavalier1138
Sprinkler wrote:Emory #1. UGA #2. Ga State #3. Surprising Mercer (Macon) places well in ATL. Outside of GA, bordering state grads in TN: FL do ok. Further out from GA, you’d have a good shot with Duke and UVA. Without a doubt, your GA family heritage is extremely beneficial.
Why did you ignore Vanderbilt in your list? Surely they have decent placement in Georgia, especially with family ties.
Re: Money aside which of these schools would be better if I want to work in Atlanta?
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:21 am
by Sprinkler
cavalier1138 wrote:Sprinkler wrote:Emory #1. UGA #2. Ga State #3. Surprising Mercer (Macon) places well in ATL. Outside of GA, bordering state grads in TN: FL do ok. Further out from GA, you’d have a good shot with Duke and UVA. Without a doubt, your GA family heritage is extremely beneficial.
Why did you ignore Vanderbilt in your list? Surely they have decent placement in Georgia, especially with family ties.
That’s why I said, TN-FL grads do ok. Vandy, FSU and a few others are certainly in the mix.
Re: Money aside which of these schools would be better if I want to work in Atlanta?
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:54 pm
by Ohiobumpkin
If health law is your desired outcome, I vote Emory since they have a great health system you may be able to intern at while at school. Also they have a great MHA program.
Re: Money aside which of these schools would be better if I want to work in Atlanta?
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 12:43 am
by QContinuum
Sprinkler wrote:cavalier1138 wrote:Sprinkler wrote:Emory #1. UGA #2. Ga State #3. Surprising Mercer (Macon) places well in ATL. Outside of GA, bordering state grads in TN: FL do ok. Further out from GA, you’d have a good shot with Duke and UVA. Without a doubt, your GA family heritage is extremely beneficial.
Why did you ignore Vanderbilt in your list? Surely they have decent placement in Georgia, especially with family ties.
That’s why I said, TN-FL grads do ok. Vandy, FSU and a few others are certainly in the mix.
But your original post suggests Vandy (which you don't even mention by name) is at most "ok"; hardly a riveting endorsement, especially when you highlight Emory as "#1", UGA as "#2", "Ga State #3", and even flog Macon as "plac[ing] well in ATL." Your post suggests that
at best, Vandy is a distant fifth. If that is indeed your conclusion, I disagree strongly. OP has family ties to Georgia and Vandy is, overall, an extremely strong law school. OP should absolutely not attend Georgia State or Mercer over Vandy.
Re: Money aside which of these schools would be better if I want to work in Atlanta?
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 7:01 am
by cavalier1138
QContinuum wrote:Sprinkler wrote:cavalier1138 wrote:Sprinkler wrote:Emory #1. UGA #2. Ga State #3. Surprising Mercer (Macon) places well in ATL. Outside of GA, bordering state grads in TN: FL do ok. Further out from GA, you’d have a good shot with Duke and UVA. Without a doubt, your GA family heritage is extremely beneficial.
Why did you ignore Vanderbilt in your list? Surely they have decent placement in Georgia, especially with family ties.
That’s why I said, TN-FL grads do ok. Vandy, FSU and a few others are certainly in the mix.
But your original post suggests Vandy (which you don't even mention by name) is at most "ok"; hardly a riveting endorsement, especially when you highlight Emory as "#1", UGA as "#2", "Ga State #3", and even flog Macon as "plac[ing] well in ATL." Your post suggests that
at best, Vandy is a distant fifth. If that is indeed your conclusion, I disagree strongly. OP has family ties to Georgia and Vandy is, overall, an extremely strong law school. OP should absolutely not attend Georgia State or Mercer over Vandy.
I was also confused by the characterization of Vandy grads as "TN grads." It's kind of like referring to Duke grads as "NC grads" (though that would obviously be even less accurate).
Re: Money aside which of these schools would be better if I want to work in Atlanta?
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 2:22 pm
by notrub14
I’m not sure there is a big difference between Emory and Vandy for Atlanta big law. I would probably go to whichever of the two is cheaper. But be aware that for top Atlanta firms you will probably need to be top 10% from either or have some other sterling credential.
Re: Money aside which of these schools would be better if I want to work in Atlanta?
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 7:33 pm
by The_Lorax
notrub14 wrote:I’m not sure there is a big difference between Emory and Vandy for Atlanta big law. I would probably go to whichever of the two is cheaper. But be aware that for top Atlanta firms you will probably need to be top 10% from either or have some other sterling credential.
This isn't true at least for Vandy. Source: me, a current 3L at Vandy.
Re: Money aside which of these schools would be better if I want to work in Atlanta?
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 12:09 am
by QContinuum
The_Lorax wrote:notrub14 wrote:I’m not sure there is a big difference between Emory and Vandy for Atlanta big law. I would probably go to whichever of the two is cheaper. But be aware that for top Atlanta firms you will probably need to be top 10% from either or have some other sterling credential.
This isn't true at least for Vandy. Source: me, a current 3L at Vandy.
Thanks for chiming in. Further, Vandy gives its students much, much better options outside Atlanta/Georgia. I feel like from UGA or even Emory, it'd be challenging to land a good job outside Georgia.
Re: Money aside which of these schools would be better if I want to work in Atlanta?
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 9:19 pm
by notrub14
The_Lorax wrote:notrub14 wrote:I’m not sure there is a big difference between Emory and Vandy for Atlanta big law. I would probably go to whichever of the two is cheaper. But be aware that for top Atlanta firms you will probably need to be top 10% from either or have some other sterling credential.
This isn't true at least for Vandy. Source: me, a current 3L at Vandy.
If you know people that are going to K&S, A+B, or Bondurant who aren’t top 10% then I will stand corrected. I’m an associate at one of these firms and I don’t know anyone, except people who I know have other hooks.
Re: Money aside which of these schools would be better if I want to work in Atlanta?
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 9:24 pm
by cavalier1138
notrub14 wrote:If you know people that are going to K&S, A+B, or Bondurant who aren’t top 10% then I will stand corrected. I’m an associate at one of these firms and I don’t know anyone, except people who I know have other hooks.
Honest question: Are those the only big firms in Atlanta, excluding satellite offices?
Re: Money aside which of these schools would be better if I want to work in Atlanta?
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 1:07 pm
by The_Lorax
notrub14 wrote:The_Lorax wrote:notrub14 wrote:I’m not sure there is a big difference between Emory and Vandy for Atlanta big law. I would probably go to whichever of the two is cheaper. But be aware that for top Atlanta firms you will probably need to be top 10% from either or have some other sterling credential.
This isn't true at least for Vandy. Source: me, a current 3L at Vandy.
If you know people that are going to K&S, A+B, or Bondurant who aren’t top 10% then I will stand corrected. I’m an associate at one of these firms and I don’t know anyone, except people who I know have other hooks.
It may be surprising, but I'm pretty sure actually none of the kids my year who are going to those firms are top 10%.
Re: Money aside which of these schools would be better if I want to work in Atlanta?
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 2:45 pm
by gregfootball2001
cavalier1138 wrote:notrub14 wrote:If you know people that are going to K&S, A+B, or Bondurant who aren’t top 10% then I will stand corrected. I’m an associate at one of these firms and I don’t know anyone, except people who I know have other hooks.
Honest question: Are those the only big firms in Atlanta, excluding satellite offices?
IMO, biglaw in Atlanta has K&S and Bondurant at the top (doing very different things), with A&B in third. The next tier are the large satellite offices of biglaw firms, such as Troutman, Kilpatrick, Jones Day, Dentons, and Eversheds. Then you have the smaller offices of large firms, like Paul Hastings and Bryan Cave, or the bigger regionals like Nelson Mullins, Morris Manning, and a host of other firms on the midlaw bubble.
Re: Money aside which of these schools would be better if I want to work in Atlanta?
Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 4:13 pm
by macejames7
Thanks for the information everyone, I am now deciding on only between Vandy and Emory. Quick update on my situation though, honestly I was leaning toward Vandy bc of the fact that their placement were quite a bit better than Emory's, but my parents are offering to pay for Emory (roughly $43,000 for all 3 years)/my living expense if I stay in Georgia. Combine that with the fact that Vandy still haven't given me a scholarship package yet leads me to believe I'm not going to be getting that much. So I am now leaning heavily Emory. Are Vandy's chance that much better that I should turn down my parents offer?
Re: Money aside which of these schools would be better if I want to work in Atlanta?
Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 4:16 pm
by macejames7
Ohiobumpkin wrote:If health law is your desired outcome, I vote Emory since they have a great health system you may be able to intern at while at school. Also they have a great MHA program.
Health law is currently what I am most interested in. Honestly I don't know much about networking in law school. If I go to Emory how would I take advantage of their health system (getting internships and such)?
thank you.
Re: Money aside which of these schools would be better if I want to work in Atlanta?
Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 6:03 pm
by Ohiobumpkin
macejames7 wrote:Ohiobumpkin wrote:If health law is your desired outcome, I vote Emory since they have a great health system you may be able to intern at while at school. Also they have a great MHA program.
Health law is currently what I am most interested in. Honestly I don't know much about networking in law school. If I go to Emory how would I take advantage of their health system (getting internships and such)?
thank you.
Yes, especially after 1L. Emory has a joint JD/MPH program already designed for students to do who are interested in health law. Neither has a health law journal. My thoughts are that if you are really interested in Atlanta as the area you want to live and work in, and you want to practice health law, Emory is a pretty good option. Vanderbilt is a close second, however, so you won't go wrong if you go that route either.
Re: Money aside which of these schools would be better if I want to work in Atlanta?
Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 11:42 am
by HillandHollow
macejames7 wrote:Thanks for the information everyone, I am now deciding on only between Vandy and Emory. Quick update on my situation though, honestly I was leaning toward Vandy bc of the fact that their placement were quite a bit better than Emory's, but my parents are offering to pay for Emory (roughly $43,000 for all 3 years)/my living expense if I stay in Georgia. Combine that with the fact that Vandy still haven't given me a scholarship package yet leads me to believe I'm not going to be getting that much. So I am now leaning heavily Emory. Are Vandy's chance that much better that I should turn down my parents offer?
If you are really going to stay in Atlanta, then Emory for free is a much better option than Vandy for any money.
Re: Money aside which of these schools would be better if I want to work in Atlanta?
Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 5:18 pm
by notrub14
macejames7 wrote:Thanks for the information everyone, I am now deciding on only between Vandy and Emory. Quick update on my situation though, honestly I was leaning toward Vandy bc of the fact that their placement were quite a bit better than Emory's, but my parents are offering to pay for Emory (roughly $43,000 for all 3 years)/my living expense if I stay in Georgia. Combine that with the fact that Vandy still haven't given me a scholarship package yet leads me to believe I'm not going to be getting that much. So I am now leaning heavily Emory. Are Vandy's chance that much better that I should turn down my parents offer?
Why are your parents willing to pay for Emory but not Vandy? Just curious