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NYU v GULC
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 5:21 pm
by dc_diva
Hi everyone! Hoping for some insight here...any thoughts are appreciated!
I've been offered 97.5k at GULC and 60k at NYU. Originally I was interested in direct representation/child advocacy, but I've expanded my interests a bit recently. Still pretty PI oriented but I'm now also looking at gov positions (congressional committees/big fed), and am not totally opposed to doing a few years Big Law. Clerking is also something that's interesting, but I'm not dead set on it. Basically, I want to keep my options open for now.
Pros for GULC:
If you can't tell from the name, I currently live in DC. I worked for 3 years as a paralegal at the DC branch of a top NY firm, so I have a ton of connections here if I want to tap into them. My significant other is in the military and is based in DC until 2019. Because we live together cost of living would be considerably cheaper for better than what I'd get near NYU. I definitely want to work in DC after graduation, so would it be better to keep working the connections I already have here?
Pros for NYU:
Obviously, it's an objectively better program/more prestigious. Definitely the place to be for PI, if I keep going down that route. Close to DC so I could probably make that work better with the SO (rather than west coast schools for example). Although I have little interest in working in NYC long term, it could be a cool experience to live there for a few years.
I've heard a lot about the DC market being too saturated for GULC students to have any home-city advantage, but I'm not sure how much I buy that from what I've seen here in DC. Either school isn't going to get me a "unicorn" PI job, and both seem to be okay at placement with DC Big Law (I'm not looking for NY placement), and it seems that either would be fine for direct representation too.
I'm not sure how to weigh prestige/rankings against current connections/SO/lower cost of living.
Numbers, if they matter: 3.6/168
Either way, I'm waitlisted at HLS and will ride that until August.
Sorry if this is rambling, just trying to get some initial thoughts out there but have to run back to work!
Re: NYU v GULC
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 5:33 pm
by cavalier1138
NYU is by far the better option between the two.
That said, it's still pretty damn expensive. You didn't have any other offers?
Re: NYU v GULC
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 5:56 pm
by dc_diva
cavalier1138 wrote:NYU is by far the better option between the two.
That said, it's still pretty damn expensive. You didn't have any other offers?
I did, but based on geographical factors they aren't really in the running.
Re: NYU v GULC
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 5:57 pm
by grades??
dc_diva wrote:cavalier1138 wrote:NYU is by far the better option between the two.
That said, it's still pretty damn expensive. You didn't have any other offers?
I did, but based on geographical factors they aren't really in the running.
Well can you please tell us? It is relevant.
Re: NYU v GULC
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:01 pm
by jbagelboy
You were WL'd at H with a 168/3.6?
Re: NYU v GULC
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:07 pm
by dc_diva
grades?? wrote:dc_diva wrote:cavalier1138 wrote:NYU is by far the better option between the two.
That said, it's still pretty damn expensive. You didn't have any other offers?
I did, but based on geographical factors they aren't really in the running.
Well can you please tell us? It is relevant.
Michigan with 105k, Berkeley with 60k, and Cornell with 60k...also got USC, GW, and UCLA with some money but not enough for them to be relevant.
Re: NYU v GULC
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:08 pm
by dc_diva
jbagelboy wrote:You were WL'd at H with a 168/3.6?
Yep! Waitlisted after an interview.
Re: NYU v GULC
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:11 pm
by grades??
dc_diva wrote:grades?? wrote:dc_diva wrote:cavalier1138 wrote:NYU is by far the better option between the two.
That said, it's still pretty damn expensive. You didn't have any other offers?
I did, but based on geographical factors they aren't really in the running.
Well can you please tell us? It is relevant.
Michigan with 105k, Berkeley with 60k, and Cornell with 60k...also got USC, GW, and UCLA with some money but not enough for them to be relevant.
I mean this is clearly Michigan being the right choice. Cheaper than GT, much better options, and NYU isn't worth that much more than Michigan.
Re: NYU v GULC
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:24 pm
by Alexandros
I know it's irritating to be told C when you ask A or B, but Michigan is clearly the right choice here.
Re: NYU v GULC
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:54 pm
by lakers180
michigan's the best option if you can get past the location issue
Re: NYU v GULC
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:56 pm
by SmokeytheBear
Alexandros wrote:I know it's irritating to be told C when you ask A or B, but Michigan is clearly the right choice here.
Re: NYU v GULC
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:56 pm
by kingpin101
Are you URM or something? How do you have these options with those numbers? (Also Michigan)
Re: NYU v GULC
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 7:06 pm
by existentialcrisis
I guess it's not a huge deal, because you don't seem dead set on biglaw, but if you're a median student at either of these schools, going all in on D.C. puts you at serious risk of striking out. Unless your connections are the kind that can get you a job regardless of your grades.
Re: NYU v GULC
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 7:27 pm
by dc_diva
kingpin101 wrote:Are you URM or something? How do you have these options with those numbers? (Also Michigan)
Not a conventional URM, but I did write a diversity statement so that may have been a factor. I worked hard to make sure the rest of my application package made up for the numbers, but what specifically made things go the way they did is hard to tell!
Re: NYU v GULC
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 7:37 pm
by Pure Applesauce
Michigan
Re: NYU v GULC
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 7:49 pm
by dc_diva
Thanks to everyone who responded! I know Michigan is objectively the best option, but if anyone has input/factors to consider on the original question of NYU/GULC it would be much appreciated. No worries if not!
Re: NYU v GULC
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 7:52 pm
by Pure Applesauce
dc_diva wrote:Thanks to everyone who responded! I know Michigan is objectively the best option, but if anyone has input/factors to consider on the original question of NYU/GULC it would be much appreciated. No worries if not!
Michigan. That is my response to the original question. NYU and GULC are both too expensive at those prices.
Re: NYU v GULC
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 7:52 pm
by Npret
dc_diva wrote:Thanks to everyone who responded! I know Michigan is objectively the best option, but if anyone has input/factors to consider on the original question of NYU/GULC it would be much appreciated. No worries if not!
How much debt at repayement will you have from each school?
If you really want D.C. and your SO is there, go to Georgetown. You don't seem clear what you want so just go for the cheaper, happier option.
Re: NYU v GULC
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 7:53 pm
by Npret
Pure Applesauce wrote:dc_diva wrote:Thanks to everyone who responded! I know Michigan is objectively the best option, but if anyone has input/factors to consider on the original question of NYU/GULC it would be much appreciated. No worries if not!
Michigan. That is my response to the original question. NYU and GULC are both too expensive at those prices.
OP has already rejected Michigan most likely because of the SO relationship which makes sense to me.
Re: NYU v GULC
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 7:59 pm
by grades??
dc_diva wrote:Thanks to everyone who responded! I know Michigan is objectively the best option, but if anyone has input/factors to consider on the original question of NYU/GULC it would be much appreciated. No worries if not!
Literally the answer is Michigan. GT has significantly worse employment options and will be significantly more expensive. This is a no-brainer and you would be silly to take that option. But do what you want, its just a stupid idea
Re: NYU v GULC
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 8:01 pm
by jbagelboy
Between NYU and GULC, the answer is obviously NYU. It's definitely worth $35k over any non-T13 or regional school. These schools are in different categories. There is no question.
Re: NYU v GULC
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 8:02 pm
by jbagelboy
dc_diva wrote:jbagelboy wrote:You were WL'd at H with a 168/3.6?
Yep! Waitlisted after an interview.
URM?
Re: NYU v GULC
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 8:03 pm
by Npret
No retake option?
Re: NYU v GULC
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 8:04 pm
by Pure Applesauce
jbagelboy wrote:dc_diva wrote:jbagelboy wrote:You were WL'd at H with a 168/3.6?
Yep! Waitlisted after an interview.
URM?
dc_diva wrote:
Not a conventional URM, but I did write a diversity statement so that may have been a factor. I worked hard to make sure the rest of my application package made up for the numbers, but what specifically made things go the way they did is hard to tell!
Re: NYU v GULC
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 8:06 pm
by jbagelboy
Pure Applesauce wrote:jbagelboy wrote:dc_diva wrote:jbagelboy wrote:You were WL'd at H with a 168/3.6?
Yep! Waitlisted after an interview.
URM?
dc_diva wrote:
Not a conventional URM, but I did write a diversity statement so that may have been a factor. I worked hard to make sure the rest of my application package made up for the numbers, but what specifically made things go the way they did is hard to tell!
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