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Fordham ($) Vs. Cardozo ($$) Vs. St John's (Full)
Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 4:22 pm
by mhassan72
St. John's Full Scholly
Cardozo (27k/ year)
Fordham (10k/ year)
Never considered St. Johns, but with a full scholarship I now have to. While I don't want to chose a school based on what the financial situation will be, I cannot just ignore it. I really want to attend fordham, I believe my opportunities over there will be better. I just really don't know what to do. Can I even negotiate scholarships, and how can I go about that.
UGPA: 3.7
LSAT: 160
Re: Fordham ($) Vs. Cardozo ($$) Vs. St John's (Full)
Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 4:36 pm
by Npret
Can you post what the COA of each school will be? I'm not interested in calculating it for you.LST has handy spreadsheets and Georgetown also has a calculator.
You should know that with your GPA people are going to tell you to retake.
Re: Fordham ($) Vs. Cardozo ($$) Vs. St John's (Full)
Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 4:53 pm
by Mikey
What are you goals?
I think you got low balled by Cardozo, they should be giving you a lot more than that.
Re: Fordham ($) Vs. Cardozo ($$) Vs. St John's (Full)
Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 5:42 pm
by chicagoburger
mhassan72 wrote:St. John's Full Scholly
Cardozo (27k/ year)
Fordham (10k/ year)
Never considered St. Johns, but with a full scholarship I now have to. While I don't want to chose a school based on what the financial situation will be, I cannot just ignore it. I really want to attend fordham, I believe my opportunities over there will be better. I just really don't know what to do. Can I even negotiate scholarships, and how can I go about that.
UGPA: 3.7
LSAT: 160
St. John's is famous for killing their conditional scholarship at 2L. If the stipulation is to get top 60% or worse, don't go.
Re: Fordham ($) Vs. Cardozo ($$) Vs. St John's (Full)
Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 9:30 pm
by cavalier1138
Yeah, we need to know your career goals here. You say that Fordham gives you better opportunities. Opportunities for what?
Re: Fordham ($) Vs. Cardozo ($$) Vs. St John's (Full)
Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:06 pm
by Rigo
Mikey wrote:I think you got low balled by Cardozo, they should be giving you a lot more than that.
Yeah seems way low. Definitely negotiate more out of them.
Re: Fordham ($) Vs. Cardozo ($$) Vs. St John's (Full)
Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 11:31 pm
by Dcc617
What are your career goals?
Re: Fordham ($) Vs. Cardozo ($$) Vs. St John's (Full)
Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2017 12:07 am
by mhassan72
chicagoburger wrote:mhassan72 wrote:St. John's Full Scholly
Cardozo (27k/ year)
Fordham (10k/ year)
Never considered St. Johns, but with a full scholarship I now have to. While I don't want to chose a school based on what the financial situation will be, I cannot just ignore it. I really want to attend fordham, I believe my opportunities over there will be better. I just really don't know what to do. Can I even negotiate scholarships, and how can I go about that.
UGPA: 3.7
LSAT: 160
St. John's is famous for killing their conditional scholarship at 2L. If the stipulation is to get top 60% or worse, don't go.
they said all I have to do is maintain a 2.15 GPA, seems very reasonable
Re: Fordham ($) Vs. Cardozo ($$) Vs. St John's (Full)
Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2017 12:08 am
by mhassan72
Dcc617 wrote:What are your career goals?
To be honest nothing specific, going in with a very open mind.
Re: Fordham ($) Vs. Cardozo ($$) Vs. St John's (Full)
Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2017 12:13 am
by UVA2B
mhassan72 wrote:Dcc617 wrote:What are your career goals?
To be honest nothing specific, going in with a very open mind.
Not a great starting point, but I'll keep an open mind. Do you see yourself working for a firm? As a public defender? What draws you to law school to begin with?
An open mind is dangerous without any direction with these schools, you should better define your goals before making this decision. From all of these schools minimizing debt is the goal, since you have little control over your outcome.
Figure out what type of attorney you want to be, go from there.
Re: Fordham ($) Vs. Cardozo ($$) Vs. St John's (Full)
Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2017 6:18 am
by cavalier1138
mhassan72 wrote:
they said all I have to do is maintain a 2.15 GPA, seems very reasonable
According to their 509, over half of students with scholarships lose them. So you might want to ask a current student just how reasonable keeping that GPA is at that school.
And to echo the above: you need to be at least a smidge more specific about your career goals. Do you want to be a lawyer at all? Private or public practice? What kind of salary do you envision getting after school?
Re: Fordham ($) Vs. Cardozo ($$) Vs. St John's (Full)
Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2017 6:54 pm
by potus
Apparently St. John's is arguing that their ABA Required Disclosures currently don't reflect their top 60% conditional scholarship for incoming 2017 folks:
Please note that the retention statistics in the ABA Required Disclosures are for a different retention policy than the one above. Under the old policy, students had to remain in the top 40% of the class (above 60%) in order to retain their entire scholarship.
http://www.stjohns.edu/law/admissions/t ... ancial-aid
But obviously all conditional scholarships should be taken with a grain of salt.