NU vs. UVA vs. Michigan vs. Penn
Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2017 3:44 pm
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Do you have any proof of this beyond thinking it's logical? It's entirely possible some of, or even most of those JD/MBA candidates end up going BL and doing clerkships. I'm sure a non-zero number go to the business side, but I think it's probably a logical leap to say JD/MBA=Not BL/Art. III.votebuilder1 wrote:I'm curious why you think Chicago BL with Chicago ties would make Penn more appealing? The "10% more students in BL/Clerkships" don't mean anything if they all go to NY/DC.guybourdin wrote:Need to know goals and ties. This post is way too thin on details even if you want to not talk about money.
For generic Chicago BL with Chicago ties, I might consider Penn over NU - they place like 10% more students in BL/Clerkships, which is significant. If you want a clerkship and have Chicago ties, I would probably choose UVA over NU. If you are interested in PI, I would probably at least consider Mich over NU.
Long term goal is to be in the Chicago government scene, but I went to school near DC and have a lot of connection there, as well. I would consider a clerkship for a few years out of law school.
I want to clarify something else -- 10% of NU law students are JDA/MBA'ers, many of whom do not have the goal to do BL, Clerkship, etc. In essence, wouldn't that mean that those of us wanting to do Clerkship (or big law) may actually have a better chance at a school like NU because there may actually be less competition?
Thanks for the answer. I appreciate your insights.UVA2B wrote: Do you have any proof of this beyond thinking it's logical?
http://www.law.northwestern.edu/profess ... ts/jd-mba/UVA2B wrote: Do you have any proof of this beyond thinking it's logical?
UVA makes the least sense...it doesn't even really place into Chicago.guybourdin wrote:Need to know goals and ties. This post is way too thin on details even if you want to not talk about money.
For generic Chicago BL with Chicago ties, I might consider Penn over NU - they place like 10% more students in BL/Clerkships, which is significant. If you want a clerkship and have Chicago ties, I would probably choose UVA over NU. If you are interested in PI, I would probably at least consider Mich over NU.
Correlation/causation assumption here. UVA has equal ability to place in Chicago as Penn/NU/Michigan. Just because not many UVA students go there doesn't mean the school can't place in that market.whysooseriousbiglaw wrote:UVA makes the least sense...it doesn't even really place into Chicago.guybourdin wrote:Need to know goals and ties. This post is way too thin on details even if you want to not talk about money.
For generic Chicago BL with Chicago ties, I might consider Penn over NU - they place like 10% more students in BL/Clerkships, which is significant. If you want a clerkship and have Chicago ties, I would probably choose UVA over NU. If you are interested in PI, I would probably at least consider Mich over NU.
The correlation matters though because when you don't have students choosing to go to a market fewer firms from that market will attend OCI. You want to make sure a healthy number of Chicago offices are attending OCI wherever you end up going.UVA2B wrote:Correlation/causation assumption here. UVA has equal ability to place in Chicago as Penn/NU/Michigan. Just because not many UVA students go there doesn't mean the school can't place in that market.whysooseriousbiglaw wrote:UVA makes the least sense...it doesn't even really place into Chicago.guybourdin wrote:Need to know goals and ties. This post is way too thin on details even if you want to not talk about money.
For generic Chicago BL with Chicago ties, I might consider Penn over NU - they place like 10% more students in BL/Clerkships, which is significant. If you want a clerkship and have Chicago ties, I would probably choose UVA over NU. If you are interested in PI, I would probably at least consider Mich over NU.
ETA: that being said, if the goal is exclusively Chicago, at equal cost UVA shouldn't be the target
Yeah, thought my edit confirmed my thinking on this. I just wanted to push back that placement power in general in Chicago at these schools are equal.Tiago Splitter wrote:The correlation matters though because when you don't have students choosing to go to a market fewer firms from that market will attend OCI. You want to make sure a healthy number of Chicago offices are attending OCI wherever you end up going.UVA2B wrote:Correlation/causation assumption here. UVA has equal ability to place in Chicago as Penn/NU/Michigan. Just because not many UVA students go there doesn't mean the school can't place in that market.whysooseriousbiglaw wrote:UVA makes the least sense...it doesn't even really place into Chicago.guybourdin wrote:Need to know goals and ties. This post is way too thin on details even if you want to not talk about money.
For generic Chicago BL with Chicago ties, I might consider Penn over NU - they place like 10% more students in BL/Clerkships, which is significant. If you want a clerkship and have Chicago ties, I would probably choose UVA over NU. If you are interested in PI, I would probably at least consider Mich over NU.
ETA: that being said, if the goal is exclusively Chicago, at equal cost UVA shouldn't be the target