How does your Law School compare to its Undergrad? Forum
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How does your Law School compare to its Undergrad?
Law school prestige is often said to ride on the coattails of its undergrad. If judging prestige by US News rankings, I thought it might be interesting to see how law school rankings would look if they closely aligned with their corresponding undergrad's ranking.
So I took the rankings of the top 100 law schools and adjusted them to their undergrad (excluding colleges without law schools i.e. Princeton, MIT, etc). You'll find the adjusted rankings stop at 78, because the other 21 schools aren't ranked nationally by US News or they don't have a corresponding undergrad. I did this while bored at work so if there's a flaw/error in any of this point it out. Obviously one should not choose a law school based on this, but I thought some might find the listing interesting. It might disillusion some ideas about legal/undergrad comparisons.
Fictional Law school (adjusted w/undergrad) rankings:
1 Harvard
2 Yale
3 Stanford
3 Columbia
3 University of Chicago
6 Duke
7 University of Pennsylvania
8 Northwestern
9 Cornell
9 Vanderbilt
9 Washington University St. Louis
12 Notre Dame
13 University of California - Berkeley
14 Georgetown
14 Emory
16 UCLA
16 USC
17 UVA
18 Wake Forest
19 University of Michigan - Ann Arbor
20 Boston College
20 UNC
22 NYU
23 William and Mary
24 Case Western Reserve
25 UC Irvine
26 Boston University
26 UC Davis
26 University of Wisconsin
26 University of Illinois
26 Tulane
31 University of Florida
31 Northeastern University
31 Pennsylvania State University—University Park
34 University of Miami
35 UT
35 Ohio State
35 University of Washington
35 Pepperdine University
35 Yeshiva University (Cardozo)
40 George Washington
40 University of Connecticut
42 University of Georgia
42 SMU
42 Syracuse University
45 Fordham
46 BYU
46 University of Pittsburgh
48 University of Minnesota
49 Baylor
49 American University (Washington)
49 Indiana University-Bloomington
52 University of Iowa
53 University of Tulsa
54 University of Colorado
55 University of Alabama
55 Florida State
57 Loyola University Chicago
58 University of Nebraska
58 University of Tennessee—Knoxville
60 University of Oklahoma
60 Illinois Institute of Technology (Chicago-Kent)
60 University of South Carolina
63 University of Kansas
64 University of Arizona
65 Seton Hall University
66 Arizona State University
66 University of Kentucky
66 Louisiana State University—Baton Rouge
66 University of Arkansas—Fayetteville
70 George Mason
71 Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey
72 St. John's University
73 University of Hawaii—Manoa (Richardson)
74 West Virginia University
75 University of New Mexico
76 UH
77 University of Missouri
78 Indiana University—Indianapolis (McKinney)
Washington and Lee
University of Utah
University of Maryland
Temple University
UC Hastings
University of Richmond
Georgia State
University of Cinncinnati
Loyola Marymount
University of Denver (Sturm)
University of San Diego
Villanova University
University of Nevada—Las Vegas
University of Oregon
St. Louis University
University of New Hampshire School of Law
Pennsylvania State University
Lewis & Clark College
University of Louisville (Brandeis)
Brooklyn Law School
Wayne State University
Real Law School Rankings
1 Yale
2 Harvard
2 Stanford
4 Columbia
4 University of Chicago
6 NYU
7 University of Pennsylvania
8 University of California - Berkeley
8 University of Michigan - Ann Arbor
8 UVA
11 Duke
12 Northwestern
13 Cornell
14 Georgetown
15 UT
16 Vanderbilt
17 UCLA
18 Washington University St. Louis
19 USC
20 Boston University
21 University of Iowa
22 Emory
22 University of Minnesota
22 Notre Dame
25 Arizona State University
25 George Washington
25 Indiana University-Bloomington
28 University of Alabama
28 UC Irvine
30 Boston College
30 Ohio State
30 UC Davis
33 William and Mary
33 University of Georgia
33 University of Washington
33 University of Wisconsin
37 Fordham
38 BYU
38 UNC
40 University of Arizona
40 University of Colorado
40 University of Illinois
40 Wake Forest
40 Washington and Lee
45 George Mason
45 SMU
45 University of Utah
48 University of Florida
48 University of Maryland
50 Florida State
50 Temple University
50 Tulane
50 UC Hastings
50 UH
55 Baylor
55 University of Richmond
57 Case Western Reserve
57 Georgia State
57 University of Nebraska
60 University of Cinncinnati
60 University of Kentucky
60 University of Miami
60 University of New Mexico
60 University of Oklahoma
65 Loyola Marymount
65 Pepperdine University
65 Seton Hall University
65 University of Connecticut
65 University of Kansas
65 University of Missouri
65 University of Tennessee—Knoxville
72 Loyola University Chicago
72 University of Denver (Sturm)
74 St. John's University
74 University of San Diego
74 Villanova University
74 Yeshiva University (Cardozo)
78 American University (Washington)
78 University of Nevada—Las Vegas
78 University of Oregon
78 University of Pittsburgh
82 Louisiana State University—Baton Rouge
82 Northeastern University
82 St. Louis University
82 University of New Hampshire School of Law
86 Illinois Institute of Technology (Chicago-Kent)
86 Pennsylvania State University
86 Pennsylvania State University—University Park
86 Syracuse University
86 University of Arkansas—Fayetteville
86 University of Tulsa
92 Lewis & Clark College
92 Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey
92 University of Hawaii—Manoa (Richardson)
92 University of Louisville (Brandeis)
92 University of South Carolina
97 Brooklyn Law School
97 Wayne State University
97 West Virginia University
100 Indiana University—Indianapolis (McKinney)
Real Undergrad (w/law schools) Rankings
2 Harvard
3 Yale
4 Stanford
4 Columbia
4 University of Chicago
8 Duke
9 University of Pennsylvania
12 Northwestern
15 Cornell
15 Vanderbilt
15 Washington University St. Louis
18 Notre Dame
20 University of California - Berkeley
21 Georgetown
21 Emory
23 UCLA
23 USC
26 UVA
27 Wake Forest
29 University of Michigan - Ann Arbor
30 Boston College
30 UNC
32 NYU
34 William and Mary
37 Case Western Reserve
39 UC Irvine
41 Boston University
41 UC Davis
41 University of Wisconsin
41 University of Illinois
41 Tulane
47 University of Florida
47 Northeastern University
47 Pennsylvania State University—University Park
51 University of Miami
52 UT
52 Ohio State
52 University of Washington
52 Pepperdine University
52 Yeshiva University (Cardozo)
57 George Washington
57 University of Connecticut
61 University of Georgia
61 SMU
61 Syracuse University
66 Fordham
66 BYU
66 University of Pittsburgh
69 University of Minnesota
72 Baylor
72 American University (Washington)
75 Indiana University-Bloomington
82 University of Iowa
86 University of Tulsa
89 University of Colorado
96 University of Alabama
96 Florida State
99 Loyola University Chicago
103 University of Nebraska
103 University of Tennessee—Knoxville
108 University of Oklahoma
108 Illinois Institute of Technology (Chicago-Kent)
108 University of South Carolina
115 University of Kansas
121 University of Arizona
123 Seton Hall University
129 Arizona State University
129 University of Kentucky
129 Louisiana State University—Baton Rouge
129 University of Arkansas—Fayetteville
135 George Mason
140 Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey
153 St. John's University
161 University of Hawaii—Manoa (Richardson)
175 West Virginia University
180 University of New Mexico
187 UH
194 University of Missouri
199 Indiana University—Indianapolis (McKinney)
Washington and Lee
University of Utah
University of Maryland
Temple University
UC Hastings
University of Richmond
Georgia State
University of Cinncinnati
Loyola Marymount
University of Denver (Sturm)
University of San Diego
Villanova University
University of Nevada—Las Vegas
University of Oregon
St. Louis University
University of New Hampshire School of Law
Pennsylvania State University
Lewis & Clark College
University of Louisville (Brandeis)
Brooklyn Law School
Wayne State University
So I took the rankings of the top 100 law schools and adjusted them to their undergrad (excluding colleges without law schools i.e. Princeton, MIT, etc). You'll find the adjusted rankings stop at 78, because the other 21 schools aren't ranked nationally by US News or they don't have a corresponding undergrad. I did this while bored at work so if there's a flaw/error in any of this point it out. Obviously one should not choose a law school based on this, but I thought some might find the listing interesting. It might disillusion some ideas about legal/undergrad comparisons.
Fictional Law school (adjusted w/undergrad) rankings:
1 Harvard
2 Yale
3 Stanford
3 Columbia
3 University of Chicago
6 Duke
7 University of Pennsylvania
8 Northwestern
9 Cornell
9 Vanderbilt
9 Washington University St. Louis
12 Notre Dame
13 University of California - Berkeley
14 Georgetown
14 Emory
16 UCLA
16 USC
17 UVA
18 Wake Forest
19 University of Michigan - Ann Arbor
20 Boston College
20 UNC
22 NYU
23 William and Mary
24 Case Western Reserve
25 UC Irvine
26 Boston University
26 UC Davis
26 University of Wisconsin
26 University of Illinois
26 Tulane
31 University of Florida
31 Northeastern University
31 Pennsylvania State University—University Park
34 University of Miami
35 UT
35 Ohio State
35 University of Washington
35 Pepperdine University
35 Yeshiva University (Cardozo)
40 George Washington
40 University of Connecticut
42 University of Georgia
42 SMU
42 Syracuse University
45 Fordham
46 BYU
46 University of Pittsburgh
48 University of Minnesota
49 Baylor
49 American University (Washington)
49 Indiana University-Bloomington
52 University of Iowa
53 University of Tulsa
54 University of Colorado
55 University of Alabama
55 Florida State
57 Loyola University Chicago
58 University of Nebraska
58 University of Tennessee—Knoxville
60 University of Oklahoma
60 Illinois Institute of Technology (Chicago-Kent)
60 University of South Carolina
63 University of Kansas
64 University of Arizona
65 Seton Hall University
66 Arizona State University
66 University of Kentucky
66 Louisiana State University—Baton Rouge
66 University of Arkansas—Fayetteville
70 George Mason
71 Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey
72 St. John's University
73 University of Hawaii—Manoa (Richardson)
74 West Virginia University
75 University of New Mexico
76 UH
77 University of Missouri
78 Indiana University—Indianapolis (McKinney)
Washington and Lee
University of Utah
University of Maryland
Temple University
UC Hastings
University of Richmond
Georgia State
University of Cinncinnati
Loyola Marymount
University of Denver (Sturm)
University of San Diego
Villanova University
University of Nevada—Las Vegas
University of Oregon
St. Louis University
University of New Hampshire School of Law
Pennsylvania State University
Lewis & Clark College
University of Louisville (Brandeis)
Brooklyn Law School
Wayne State University
Real Law School Rankings
1 Yale
2 Harvard
2 Stanford
4 Columbia
4 University of Chicago
6 NYU
7 University of Pennsylvania
8 University of California - Berkeley
8 University of Michigan - Ann Arbor
8 UVA
11 Duke
12 Northwestern
13 Cornell
14 Georgetown
15 UT
16 Vanderbilt
17 UCLA
18 Washington University St. Louis
19 USC
20 Boston University
21 University of Iowa
22 Emory
22 University of Minnesota
22 Notre Dame
25 Arizona State University
25 George Washington
25 Indiana University-Bloomington
28 University of Alabama
28 UC Irvine
30 Boston College
30 Ohio State
30 UC Davis
33 William and Mary
33 University of Georgia
33 University of Washington
33 University of Wisconsin
37 Fordham
38 BYU
38 UNC
40 University of Arizona
40 University of Colorado
40 University of Illinois
40 Wake Forest
40 Washington and Lee
45 George Mason
45 SMU
45 University of Utah
48 University of Florida
48 University of Maryland
50 Florida State
50 Temple University
50 Tulane
50 UC Hastings
50 UH
55 Baylor
55 University of Richmond
57 Case Western Reserve
57 Georgia State
57 University of Nebraska
60 University of Cinncinnati
60 University of Kentucky
60 University of Miami
60 University of New Mexico
60 University of Oklahoma
65 Loyola Marymount
65 Pepperdine University
65 Seton Hall University
65 University of Connecticut
65 University of Kansas
65 University of Missouri
65 University of Tennessee—Knoxville
72 Loyola University Chicago
72 University of Denver (Sturm)
74 St. John's University
74 University of San Diego
74 Villanova University
74 Yeshiva University (Cardozo)
78 American University (Washington)
78 University of Nevada—Las Vegas
78 University of Oregon
78 University of Pittsburgh
82 Louisiana State University—Baton Rouge
82 Northeastern University
82 St. Louis University
82 University of New Hampshire School of Law
86 Illinois Institute of Technology (Chicago-Kent)
86 Pennsylvania State University
86 Pennsylvania State University—University Park
86 Syracuse University
86 University of Arkansas—Fayetteville
86 University of Tulsa
92 Lewis & Clark College
92 Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey
92 University of Hawaii—Manoa (Richardson)
92 University of Louisville (Brandeis)
92 University of South Carolina
97 Brooklyn Law School
97 Wayne State University
97 West Virginia University
100 Indiana University—Indianapolis (McKinney)
Real Undergrad (w/law schools) Rankings
2 Harvard
3 Yale
4 Stanford
4 Columbia
4 University of Chicago
8 Duke
9 University of Pennsylvania
12 Northwestern
15 Cornell
15 Vanderbilt
15 Washington University St. Louis
18 Notre Dame
20 University of California - Berkeley
21 Georgetown
21 Emory
23 UCLA
23 USC
26 UVA
27 Wake Forest
29 University of Michigan - Ann Arbor
30 Boston College
30 UNC
32 NYU
34 William and Mary
37 Case Western Reserve
39 UC Irvine
41 Boston University
41 UC Davis
41 University of Wisconsin
41 University of Illinois
41 Tulane
47 University of Florida
47 Northeastern University
47 Pennsylvania State University—University Park
51 University of Miami
52 UT
52 Ohio State
52 University of Washington
52 Pepperdine University
52 Yeshiva University (Cardozo)
57 George Washington
57 University of Connecticut
61 University of Georgia
61 SMU
61 Syracuse University
66 Fordham
66 BYU
66 University of Pittsburgh
69 University of Minnesota
72 Baylor
72 American University (Washington)
75 Indiana University-Bloomington
82 University of Iowa
86 University of Tulsa
89 University of Colorado
96 University of Alabama
96 Florida State
99 Loyola University Chicago
103 University of Nebraska
103 University of Tennessee—Knoxville
108 University of Oklahoma
108 Illinois Institute of Technology (Chicago-Kent)
108 University of South Carolina
115 University of Kansas
121 University of Arizona
123 Seton Hall University
129 Arizona State University
129 University of Kentucky
129 Louisiana State University—Baton Rouge
129 University of Arkansas—Fayetteville
135 George Mason
140 Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey
153 St. John's University
161 University of Hawaii—Manoa (Richardson)
175 West Virginia University
180 University of New Mexico
187 UH
194 University of Missouri
199 Indiana University—Indianapolis (McKinney)
Washington and Lee
University of Utah
University of Maryland
Temple University
UC Hastings
University of Richmond
Georgia State
University of Cinncinnati
Loyola Marymount
University of Denver (Sturm)
University of San Diego
Villanova University
University of Nevada—Las Vegas
University of Oregon
St. Louis University
University of New Hampshire School of Law
Pennsylvania State University
Lewis & Clark College
University of Louisville (Brandeis)
Brooklyn Law School
Wayne State University
- theconsigliere
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Re: How does your Law School compare to its Undergrad?
Still better than ATL rankings
- Nachoo2019
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Re: How does your Law School compare to its Undergrad?
That's not saying muchtheconsigliere wrote:Still better than ATL rankings
- pancakes3
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Re: How does your Law School compare to its Undergrad?
get a better hobby
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Re: How does your Law School compare to its Undergrad?
I've determined OP goes to Wake Forest. Will ya look at that..
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- Pomeranian
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Re: How does your Law School compare to its Undergrad?
I did some investigating. He's a self-described URM applicant going to Notre Dame (see link). Also, this ranking make no sense no offense <3.flawedargument wrote:I've determined OP goes to Wake Forest. Will ya look at that..
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 6#p9255846
Woof!
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Re: How does your Law School compare to its Undergrad?
its this kind of thing that sends me back to 4chan for my legal advice and analysis
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Re: How does your Law School compare to its Undergrad?
pancakes3 wrote:get a better hobby
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Re: How does your Law School compare to its Undergrad?
You forgot to rank Princeton Law School (Yes many lay people think Princeton has a law school) between Yale and Stanford.