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Re: t14 or die?

Post by Gifted Hands » Thu Jun 02, 2016 11:01 am

say you have 500 students, 250 of them get BL. 50%

But if only 400 students are competing and 250 get them, 62.5 %

Either way, vandy is at 40%

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Re: t14 or die?

Post by TLSModBot » Thu Jun 02, 2016 11:02 am

Can we just agree they're both terrible options?

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Re: t14 or die?

Post by Goldchain » Sat Jun 04, 2016 4:51 pm

Gifted Hands wrote:
Goldchain wrote:Id take VANDY over Georgetown at same price for any market (Georgetown's class is massive and Vanderbilts hiring numbers are just as good)

I'd take UCLA over Duke, Cornell, and Georgetown if I wanted California

I'd take U of Texas with money over Cornell if I wanted Texas...

T-17 is solid imo

~(I'm someone with a top 10 acceptance who will be attending one of the above schools for the stated reasons plus $$$)
No no no no... do you realize how many ppl from gtown go straight to fed gov work that vandy kids couldn't dream of. Go recalculate the stats taking gov't jobs into consideration. Recommending vandy over gtown at same price is ban worthy advice,
How is this ban-worthy advice? Both schools have similar employment numbers, are ranked only 1 spot apart, and have a similar student body according to LSAT and gpa comparisons.

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Re: t14 or die?

Post by jnwa » Sun Jun 05, 2016 12:26 am

Goldchain wrote:
Gifted Hands wrote:
Goldchain wrote:Id take VANDY over Georgetown at same price for any market (Georgetown's class is massive and Vanderbilts hiring numbers are just as good)

I'd take UCLA over Duke, Cornell, and Georgetown if I wanted California

I'd take U of Texas with money over Cornell if I wanted Texas...

T-17 is solid imo

~(I'm someone with a top 10 acceptance who will be attending one of the above schools for the stated reasons plus $$$)
No no no no... do you realize how many ppl from gtown go straight to fed gov work that vandy kids couldn't dream of. Go recalculate the stats taking gov't jobs into consideration. Recommending vandy over gtown at same price is ban worthy advice,
How is this ban-worthy advice? Both schools have similar employment numbers, are ranked only 1 spot apart, and have a similar student body according to LSAT and gpa comparisons.
BL+FC numbers aren't neccessarily reflective of placement power because of the afformentioned self selection. Claiming that Vanderbilt is the better choice with equal money seems flat out wrong. I mean if I asked you whether you'd rather lose $500 or $510, there's a wrong choice. Factoring in some level of self selection to govt jobs it's fairly clear that Gtown has better placement power so arguing the contrary seems silly.

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Re: t14 or die?

Post by lawschoolletsgo » Sun Jun 05, 2016 11:20 pm

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Re: t14 or die?

Post by 84651846190 » Fri Jun 17, 2016 11:18 am

If you're okay with being poor, non-T14s are fine.

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Re: t14 or die?

Post by 84651846190 » Fri Jun 17, 2016 11:19 am

lawschoolletsgo wrote:I'll play devils advocate here. Going off of 2015 ABA data.

Georgetown's school funded/ unemployed-seeking is 19% .Vanderbilt's school funded/ unemployed-seeking is 9%.

Georgetown's BL +FC is 44%. Vanderbilt's BL+FC is 47%.

Georgetown's Gov't/PI is 19%. Vanderbilt's Gov't/PI is 12%.

Arguing that Georgetown is Heads and shoulders a better option than Vanderbilt seems "silly". Nothing about the above numbers make me think that G'town or Vandy is the ABSOLUTE better option. I think the schools are pretty comparable. Sure, there may be more people pushing for PI at G'town, but lets not assume that 100% of the Vanderbilt class is gunning for BL+FC.

IMO, there is no definite right or wrong here, the choice would most likely come down to geography preference. Would you rather work in the Southeast or D.C.?

Both schools are good options at a discount.
Gotta draw the line somewhere

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