Really need help deciding!!!!!!! Driving myself nuts! Forum

[mogwli]

This is the best I have, and my parents/my situation dictates that I plan on starting law school this year.

A) You are an adult. .

If his parents are holding him back from law school he is just not mature enough for law school or this field. He said his brother + other family members all went to law school, so maybe his parents are "forcing" him to go. Taking LSAT twice means he probably hasn't spent a year or two working full time yet either. OP please correct me is this assumption is wrong.

This isn't a time to be shy here, what EXACTLY is the "situation" stopping you from taking the LSAT again. All of us on this forum are in law schools (from Harvard to TTTs) or already practicing law (from biglaw to shitlaw). You do not know more about this than us. You don't. You really really don't. There better be a damn good reason why you aren't listening to us and at least considering retaking. Two times is nothing.

Some of the most successful people at my law school are those who took the LSAT twice, tanked it, then decided to go do other work for a few years. After they retook and did fine, they got good schollys and went to good schools. It built character, showed maturity, and showed later legal employers that law wasn't just a fallback career for a K-JD history major.

Edit: to make it clear OP. If you are just too afraid to go out and find a job to live independently for a year outside of your parent's help, you are not ready for law school. A J.D. is a professional degree.

You have not told anyone here a good reason for saying "I'm not retaking" other than "personal situation". Either it is something really serious or you are way too immature to realize how little taking an extra year of matters in a career 40+ years long.

[Jordan Catalano]

Dude, imagine you're sitting on a couch with your future children...

Lmao @ this...but yeah, sometimes people don't have the time to study more due to work/family obligations...

[KissMyAxe]

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[LandMermaid]

Dude, imagine you're sitting on a couch with your future children...

Lmao @ this...but yeah, sometimes people don't have the time to study more due to work/family obligations...

Then how are they going to make time to study for law school? No one is saying spend hours every day burying your head into a prep book. If they have time to spend 3 years and thousands of dollars on law school, they can spend 40 minutes before bed and a couple hours on weekends doing LSAT prep for a few months.

[Jordan Catalano]

Dude, imagine you're sitting on a couch with your future children...

Lmao @ this...but yeah, sometimes people don't have the time to study more due to work/family obligations...

Then they won't have the time to study more in law school due to work/family obligations....

No, because (most) people use loans for COL and don't work while in law school. That frees up 40 hours a week to study.

Then how are they going to make time to study for law school? No one is saying spend hours every day burying your head into a prep book. If they have time to spend 3 years and thousands of dollars on law school, they can spend 40 minutes before bed and a couple hours on weekends doing LSAT prep for a few months.

Many people need to bury their head in a prep book for hours a day to get a great score on the LSAT. Spending 40 minutes a day before bed and a couple of weekends doing LSAT prep for a few months ain't gonna cut it for most people. If it was that easy, everyone would have a 169+. The advice on here by numerous posters makes retaking seem 1) easy to study for and 2) leading to an inevitable higher score. As a re-taker and serious studier both times around, I'd highly caution against putting all your eggs in the retake basket expecting a higher score, especially if your advice is to study so little...

[LandMermaid]

Dude, imagine you're sitting on a couch with your future children...

Lmao @ this...but yeah, sometimes people don't have the time to study more due to work/family obligations...

Then they won't have the time to study more in law school due to work/family obligations....

No, because (most) people use loans for COL and don't work while in law school. That frees up 40 hours a week to study.

Then how are they going to make time to study for law school? No one is saying spend hours every day burying your head into a prep book. If they have time to spend 3 years and thousands of dollars on law school, they can spend 40 minutes before bed and a couple hours on weekends doing LSAT prep for a few months.

Many people need to bury their head in a prep book for hours a day to get a great score on the LSAT. Spending 40 minutes a day before bed and a couple of weekends doing LSAT prep for a few months ain't gonna cut it for most people. If it was that easy, everyone would have a 169+. The advice on here by numerous posters makes retaking seem 1) easy to study for and 2) leading to an inevitable higher score. As a re-taker and serious studier both times around, I'd highly caution against putting all your eggs in the retake basket expecting a higher score, especially if your advice is to study so little...

Then study for a few years like that. If OP had even decent choices at decent prices people would not be advocating so heavily for a retake. Even a couple extra points could make a huge difference, at least in finances, in this case.

[crescentstars]

Look man, to your credit...

^ Congrats on the awesome outcome!

OP, I'm sorry if it seems like people are digging into you, but I just wanted to reiterate how good seagan823's post is. Read through the stats/threads he posted (and talk to a bunch of actual lawyers) so you know exactly what to expect before making your decision. I agree with the general advice people are giving - I also pushed myself to retake, and things ended up working out so much better for me. But in the end it really is your choice (and I don't mean that in a patronizing way). Good luck with your decision!

[HonestAdvice]

A. This belongs in the Choosing A Law School forum.

B. Dude, imagine you're sitting on a couch with your future children. It's from the local thrift store. It smells faintly of the previous owner's two-pack/day cigarette habit. Your 5 year old is watching the Maury Show with you on an old barely-color TV you picked up for a couple bucks at a yard sale down the street. It's 3 PM. Five minutes ago, your kid asked you for a snack and you said no. He's obviously hungry but you push that to the back of your mind while you focus on the poor sucker who's about to find out if his ex-gf's baby is his.

"Daddy, are we poor?" It's a tough question for anyone to hear from their kids. Your first instinct is to deny it but as you see Maury's guest leap around on stage when he finds out he is "NOT THE FATHER!!". This gives you momentary sense of joy and the cojones to answer your kid honestly.

"Yes buddy, we're poor."

"Why are we poor Daddy?"

"Because...because I didn't want to take the LSAT again little man."

"What's LSAT?"

"It's a test you take to get into law school. People give you a lot of money and let you go to the best school in the world if you do well on it."

"Oh." He sits for a minute pondering this information. "So, they didn't give you money?"

"No buddy, they didn't...or hardly enough anyway"

"Is that why you don't have a job right now?"

"No, I decided to go to a terrible law school anyway because I was too lazy to take the test again."

"And that made us poor?'

"Well little man, it made me unemployed...and...unemployable. But, the good news is I get to be with you right now as opposed to at work, ok?"

"Ok Daddy!"

"Good deal. I sure love you. Promise me you won't make Daddy's mistakes."

"Promise Daddy."

"Good boy. Now, go wash up, we'll eat dinner a little early tonight. I got hot dogs and kraft mac n' cheese. What would you prefer?"

Retake the fucking LSAT dude.

Before you jump to presumptive conclusions, you should ask questions. Laziness is not the reason for not retaking, it's personal circumstance.

I'll use this excuse. "I didn't not pay my student loan bill because I'm a deadbeat. It's personal circumstance." "Sleeping with somebody other than you, honey, doesn't make me a cheater. I'm a victim of personal circumstance." "I wasn't speeding, officer. It was personal circumstance."

[OutOfTheQuestion]

I got hot dogs and kraft mac n' cheese. What would you prefer?"

What kind of father would make their child choose between those two? The credited response is add chopped up hot dogs to the mac n' cheese.

[ponderingmeerkat]

I got hot dogs and kraft mac n' cheese. What would you prefer?"

What kind of father would make their child choose between those two? The credited response is add chopped up hot dogs to the mac n' cheese.

So much this. A clear oversight on my part.