Columbia ($) vs. NYU ($$)
Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 10:04 pm
NYU offered me $75K while Columbia offered me $25K.
Which is the better option?
Which is the better option?
NYU.
CLS is not worth 50k over NYU
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DCfilterDC wrote:NYU.
CLS is not worth 50k over NYU
How soGlacial wrote:Money is important, but academically CLS is closer to HYS rather than Chi/NYU/Penn.
Rigo wrote:How soGlacial wrote:Money is important, but academically CLS is closer to HYS rather than Chi/NYU/Penn.
This is a meaningless statement. There isn't really an HYS and CLS and UChicago are basically exact peers (which are both very comparable to HLS in placement with some disadvantages, but less so to YLS).Glacial wrote:Money is important, but academically CLS is closer to HYS rather than Chi/NYU/Penn.
Although this post is wrong, I respect it for managing to fit pro-CLS and pro-Penn trolling in the same sentence.Glacial wrote:Money is important, but academically CLS is closer to HYS rather than Chi/NYU/Penn.
My statement was based on academic quality alone. CLS has an exceptional faculty, probably the third best in the nation overall, which gives it an edge over Chicago. Twenty years ago, it was the other way round thanks to highly influential Chicago law and economics school. But that's no longer the case, and there aren't many "rock star" professors left at Chicago or those who are still there are too old (with all due respect) to offer something new. I mean, even in the field of law and economics, you have much more vibrant schools like George Mason.jbagelboy wrote:This is a meaningless statement. There isn't really an HYS and CLS and UChicago are basically exact peers (which are both very comparable to HLS in placement with some disadvantages, but less so to YLS).Glacial wrote:Money is important, but academically CLS is closer to HYS rather than Chi/NYU/Penn.
Oooh wow, lots of interesting statements here. I'm tempted to say it's not worth it to go over them with you since you are probably an 0L and you will learn, but for posterity's sake, a few points on your entirely vacuous faculty and placement aspersions. First, last year Chicago produced a higher % of 9-mo federal clerks than Harvard (although Harvard produced more alumni clerks and CLS alumni clerk numbers were roughly Chi's average 9-mo due to post-plan hiring practices and heavier transactional preference at CLS and to a lesser extent HLS). It's extremely rare for HLS to send >20% clerk at 9-mo. HLS and CLS EIP's are the closest in result to any school, although HLS places better into non-NY selective firms. Take a look at summer class composition and you'll see H/C are always proportionally aligned to school class size, while Chi/SLS are more idiosyncratic. HLS always sends far more than 60% of its class into biglaw, and its EIP success rate figures are very similar to Chi/CLS (~90%+). So your rhetorical questions actually have answers to support the opposite premise, and the three schools have very comparable placement, but HLS has certain advantages over each in different ways.Glacial wrote:My statement was based on academic quality alone. CLS has an exceptional faculty, probably the third best in the nation overall, which gives it an edge over Chicago. Twenty years ago, it was the other way round thanks to highly influential Chicago law and economics school. But that's no longer the case, and there aren't many "rock star" professors left at Chicago or those who are still there are too old (with all due respect) to offer something new. I mean, even in the field of law and economics, you have much more vibrant schools like George Mason.jbagelboy wrote:This is a meaningless statement. There isn't really an HYS and CLS and UChicago are basically exact peers (which are both very comparable to HLS in placement with some disadvantages, but less so to YLS).Glacial wrote:Money is important, but academically CLS is closer to HYS rather than Chi/NYU/Penn.
What makes you say that CLS and Chicago are "very comparable" to HLS in placement? When was the last time Chicago placed 20% or more in clerkship? Or H placing 60% or more in Biglaw? If you look at the employment stats for the past several years, you'll see that CLS and Chicago are "very comparable" to NYU and Penn respectively. Would you say then that Chicago and Penn are "basically exact peers"? Why not? Yes, that's what I meant in the first place - the same logic applies to CLS>Chi.
Are you a student at CLS?Glacial wrote:
My statement was based on academic quality alone. CLS has an exceptional faculty, probably the third best in the nation overall, which gives it an edge over Chicago. Twenty years ago, it was the other way round thanks to highly influential Chicago law and economics school. But that's no longer the case, and there aren't many "rock star" professors left at Chicago or those who are still there are too old (with all due respect) to offer something new. I mean, even in the field of law and economics, you have much more vibrant schools like George Mason.
What makes you say that CLS and Chicago are "very comparable" to HLS in placement? When was the last time Chicago placed 20% or more in clerkship? Or H placing 60% or more in Biglaw? If you look at the employment stats for the past several years, you'll see that CLS and Chicago are "very comparable" to NYU and Penn respectively. Would you say then that Chicago and Penn are "basically exact peers"? Why not? Yes, that's what I meant in the first place - the same logic applies to CLS>Chi.
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I applied in November, got in around January/February.somethingelse55 wrote:I feel like you should have better options with those stats. When did you apply? And what are your career goals?