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Cardozo v. Emory for BIGLAW NYC

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 2:29 pm
by dayanam
I'm trying to figure out the best school based on biglaw placement in NYC. I got a 10k scholarship from Cardozo. However, I'm not factoring that into my decision. I would love to go down south so relocating for 3 years isn't an issue. Cardozo told me that plenty of grads get biglaw jobs... but the statistics show like 20%. However, many Emory grads get biglaw in Atlanta and DC. So I'm not sure how many actually get Biglaw jobs in NYC. I'm trying to make a decision and just don't know what's best.

I want to work in BIGLAW in NYC after law school.
I don't mind paying sticker. And I'm not factoring in COL.

Anyone have any thoughts on what would be a better option?

Thanks in advance!!

Re: Cardozo v. Emory for BIGLAW NYC

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 2:35 pm
by lymenheimer

Re: Cardozo v. Emory for BIGLAW NYC

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 2:40 pm
by TLSDookie
dayanam wrote: I got a 10k scholarship from Cardozo.
retake

Re: Cardozo v. Emory for BIGLAW NYC

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 2:43 pm
by dayanam
TLSDookie wrote:
dayanam wrote: I got a 10k scholarship from Cardozo.
retake
I took it twice ... both times close family members were in the hospital so I did poorly... however the rest of my app is strong so I honestly don't want to retake.

Re: Cardozo v. Emory for BIGLAW NYC

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 2:45 pm
by jrass
You need to run the #'s and measure the risk. If 20% get it, you carry the 2, and multiply that by 5 to get 10, and then multiply 20 (the % of students who get it) by 4 to correspond with the four seasons of the NYC year to get 80, then you add the 10 to the 80, and you have a 90% shot so as long as you believe you can finish out of the bottom 10%, this is the right decision.

Worst case scenario - if you are in the bottom 10% you can always get a federal clerkship for a year or two, and go the judicial route after you finish. You'll start off as a judge in SDNY or another state court, which isn't great, but if you survive for 9 months, your baby will be born, which means you'll satisfy the Article 4 8(b)(2) requirement of having a child, which is a prerequisite to becoming a judge in NY and most of the second circuit. Then all you have to do is do a few CNN interviews and meet politicians, and you can get a supreme court seat before you're 30, then transition to big law thereafter.

Re: Cardozo v. Emory for BIGLAW NYC

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 3:11 pm
by ponderingmeerkat
jrass wrote:You need to run the #'s and measure the risk. If 20% get it, you carry the 2, and multiply that by 5 to get 10, and then multiply 20 (the % of students who get it) by 4 to correspond with the four seasons of the NYC year to get 80, then you add the 10 to the 80, and you have a 90% shot so as long as you believe you can finish out of the bottom 10%, this is the right decision.

Worst case scenario - if you are in the bottom 10% you can always get a federal clerkship for a year or two, and go the judicial route after you finish. You'll start off as a judge in SDNY or another state court, which isn't great, but if you survive for 9 months, your baby will be born, which means you'll satisfy the Article 4 8(b)(2) requirement of having a child, which is a prerequisite to becoming a judge in NY and most of the second circuit. Then all you have to do is do a few CNN interviews and meet politicians, and you can get a supreme court seat before you're 30, then transition to big law thereafter.
:lol: "I want your best advice dudemanbros"

"You need to retake."

"Don't wanna."

"K well...that's the only right answer here."

"Don't wanna!"

"Dude."

"DON'T FUCKING WANNA!"

Re: Cardozo v. Emory for BIGLAW NYC

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 3:13 pm
by heythatslife
dayanam wrote:
TLSDookie wrote:
dayanam wrote: I got a 10k scholarship from Cardozo.
retake
I took it twice ... both times close family members were in the hospital so I did poorly... however the rest of my app is strong so I honestly don't want to retake.
If anything, that's a stronger argument for retake than the other way round

Re: Cardozo v. Emory for BIGLAW NYC

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 3:16 pm
by lymenheimer
heythatslife wrote: If anything, that's a stronger argument for retake than the other way round
Well, maybe his Logical Reasoning skills are wonky. Perhaps he's seeing it as "Take the LSAT >> family member gets hospitalized". and if he sees it like that, then indeed statement 1 is true (LR is wonky), and he will do miserably, same as before.

Re: Cardozo v. Emory for BIGLAW NYC

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 3:29 pm
by kaiser
dayanam wrote:
TLSDookie wrote:
dayanam wrote: I got a 10k scholarship from Cardozo.
retake
I took it twice ... both times close family members were in the hospital so I did poorly... however the rest of my app is strong so I honestly don't want to retake.
I'm confused. If circumstances ever justified a retake, surely these would be the circumstances. Of course you aren't going to perform well with a family member in the hospital. So wouldn't it be worthwhile to take the exam without having to worry about a hospitalized family member?

Re: Cardozo v. Emory for BIGLAW NYC

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 3:40 pm
by Mikey
That's basically paying sticker at Cardozo which is NOT something you want to do. Either way, who ever told you that plenty of students from dozo get biglaw is a liar. 20% is WAY too generous, more like 8-10%.

"I don't mind paying sticker". This is a very very bad decision for both Emory and Cardozo (10k/yr is practically sticker imo..).

If you're only getting 10k from Cardozo, you really should retake.

Re: Cardozo v. Emory for BIGLAW NYC

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 3:41 pm
by TLSDookie
lymenheimer wrote:
heythatslife wrote: If anything, that's a stronger argument for retake than the other way round
Well, maybe his Logical Reasoning skills are wonky. Perhaps he's seeing it as "Take the LSAT >> family member gets hospitalized". and if he sees it like that, then indeed statement 1 is true (LR is wonky), and he will do miserably, same as before.
/thread :lol:

Re: Cardozo v. Emory for BIGLAW NYC

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 4:19 pm
by jrass
dayanam wrote:
TLSDookie wrote:
dayanam wrote: I got a 10k scholarship from Cardozo.
retake
I took it twice ... both times close family members were in the hospital so I did poorly... however the rest of my app is strong so I honestly don't want to retake.
In The Usual Suspects when Kaiser Soze's close family members' well being affected his ability to succeed, he terminated them. Walmart, aisle 12, a photo ID, $300 cash and a shovel, and Fordham could be yours.