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I was going to ask if you had been accepted at Harvard before I saw you posted recently about negotiating a NW scholarship after being accepted to Northwestern through binding ED. If you have been admitted to NW ED, you should withdraw all other applications now if you have not already.sarahpp99 wrote:Hi, tlsers. My career orientation is biglaw. So, I'm wondering which school is the best for biglaw jobs? Harvard at sticker vs NU 150k,which one should I choose?
Thanks in advance. Any input would be tremendously appreciated.
You haven't started law school yet and you are thinking of transferring to Harvard after a year at NU? Or you are already at NU and have done well enough to transfer to Harvard?sarahpp99 wrote:I was thinking about transferring...EnderWiggin wrote:I was going to ask if you had been accepted at Harvard before I saw you posted recently about negotiating a NW scholarship after being accepted to Northwestern through binding ED. If you have been admitted to NW ED, you should withdraw all other applications now if you have not already.sarahpp99 wrote:Hi, tlsers. My career orientation is biglaw. So, I'm wondering which school is the best for biglaw jobs? Harvard at sticker vs NU 150k,which one should I choose?
Thanks in advance. Any input would be tremendously appreciated.
Huh? The same as everyone else in biglaw....which is not enough to service your $300k in loanssarahpp99 wrote:Money is really that important? How much would a really competent,top of the class student earn at a biglaw?whysoseriousbiglaw wrote:Harvard obviously gives you a better shot for biglaw, but paying sticker for Harvard unless you are loaded is retarded.
Terrible answer. The difference in firm placement between Northwestern and Harvard is roughly 15% among those who want it. Harvard doesn't "open[] so many doors" (lol at that butchered idiom) that Northwestern doesn't, it just provides security for a greater number of students in the class and the same opportunities to a larger slice.GreatBraffsby wrote:If you desperately want to be in Chicago or are very debt averse, go with NU. Otherwise Harvard is your best shot. It opens so many doors.
Wrong question, because they'd make the same from NU or HLS. If you have the grades to transfer up from NU than you can get nearly any biglaw you'd want.sarahpp99 wrote:Money is really that important? How much would a really competent,top of the class student earn at a biglaw?whysoseriousbiglaw wrote:Harvard obviously gives you a better shot for biglaw, but paying sticker for Harvard unless you are loaded is retarded.
First off, before you made biglaw your career goal you should have done a little more market research.sarahpp99 wrote:Do people make the same from NU or hls? Is a 160k salary the median? I think a better school may make me better prepared for the biglaw, thus earning more? I just wonder if Harvard has an edge over NU when it comes to a good corporate law education and whatever law areas that are crucial to a successful biglaw practice?jbagelboy wrote:Wrong question, because they'd make the same from NU or HLS. If you have the grades to transfer up from NU than you can get nearly any biglaw you'd want.sarahpp99 wrote:Money is really that important? How much would a really competent,top of the class student earn at a biglaw?whysoseriousbiglaw wrote:Harvard obviously gives you a better shot for biglaw, but paying sticker for Harvard unless you are loaded is retarded.
Yes. First year associates make 160k regardless of whether they went to Yale or Uncle Chuckle's School of Legal Learnin'.sarahpp99 wrote: Do people make the same from NU or hls? Is a 160k salary the median? I think a better school may make me better prepared for the biglaw, thus earning more? I just wonder if Harvard has an edge over NU when it comes to a good corporate law education and whatever law areas that are crucial to a successful biglaw practice?
Even if true, maybe somebody with a genuine decision to make will view this.Hand wrote:Why people keep responding like this is a serious thread after OP made clear they ED'd to NU and their only path to Harvard is by transferring, on the basis of grades yet to be earned, is one of those typical TLS mysteries.
This makes absolutely no sense to me, what offers would really be better? Harvard's aid is need-based, so no amount of money is guaranteed. It's not like a retake would change this. Plus NU outperforms its rank in regards to biglaw, so going somewhere else (even with the assumption that you can get the same amount of aid) doesn't really scream a better outcome to me. And while Harvard gives a better chance at biglaw, it doesn't guarantee it either. OP, It sounds like you are H or bust, and should likely reapply to H next year instead of trying to transfer (something you could easily fail to do).Otunga wrote:I would say neither, but if you must, then Harvard. 150k is an enormous amount of debt and considering that a significant amount of NW students don't get biglaw, it's not an amount you should be comfortable with. Granted, sticker at Harvard is even worse debt-wise, but you're more likely to get a job that would ultimately pay it off, so I'd suggest there if you must go to one.
What's your GPA/LSAT combo? If not a splitter, then retake for t14 at less than 100k debt - that would be a justifiable decision. If a splitter, then really make sure you want to be a lawyer. But I just want to emphasize that law school with these options is something you shouldn't consider.
Transferring from Northwestern to Harvard is dumb. The same firms interview at Northwestern and Harvard and even if you do end up getting into Harvard, it doesn't really change anything except the amount of debt you'll have. The firms pay the same to everyone.sarahpp99 wrote:I was thinking about transferring...EnderWiggin wrote:I was going to ask if you had been accepted at Harvard before I saw you posted recently about negotiating a NW scholarship after being accepted to Northwestern through binding ED. If you have been admitted to NW ED, you should withdraw all other applications now if you have not already.sarahpp99 wrote:Hi, tlsers. My career orientation is biglaw. So, I'm wondering which school is the best for biglaw jobs? Harvard at sticker vs NU 150k,which one should I choose?
Thanks in advance. Any input would be tremendously appreciated.
Pretty sure the OP meant they were getting $150k in merit aid at NU - that's what the ED admission comes with.Otunga wrote:I would say neither, but if you must, then Harvard. 150k is an enormous amount of debt and considering that a significant amount of NW students don't get biglaw, it's not an amount you should be comfortable with. Granted, sticker at Harvard is even worse debt-wise, but you're more likely to get a job that would ultimately pay it off, so I'd suggest there if you must go to one.
What's your GPA/LSAT combo? If not a splitter, then retake for t14 at less than 100k debt - that would be a justifiable decision. If a splitter, then really make sure you want to be a lawyer. But I just want to emphasize that law school with these options is something you shouldn't consider.
I can't tell if OP applied yet. I can't tell if OP is an international applicant. I can't tell if OP knows about need based aid at Harvard.A. Nony Mouse wrote:Pretty sure the OP meant they were getting $150k in merit aid at NU - that's what the ED admission comes with.Otunga wrote:I would say neither, but if you must, then Harvard. 150k is an enormous amount of debt and considering that a significant amount of NW students don't get biglaw, it's not an amount you should be comfortable with. Granted, sticker at Harvard is even worse debt-wise, but you're more likely to get a job that would ultimately pay it off, so I'd suggest there if you must go to one.
What's your GPA/LSAT combo? If not a splitter, then retake for t14 at less than 100k debt - that would be a justifiable decision. If a splitter, then really make sure you want to be a lawyer. But I just want to emphasize that law school with these options is something you shouldn't consider.
That's quite different then. If the debt total at Northwestern would be less than 100k, that's undoubtedly the better choice over Harvard sticker/minimal scholarship.A. Nony Mouse wrote:Pretty sure the OP meant they were getting $150k in merit aid at NU - that's what the ED admission comes with.Otunga wrote:I would say neither, but if you must, then Harvard. 150k is an enormous amount of debt and considering that a significant amount of NW students don't get biglaw, it's not an amount you should be comfortable with. Granted, sticker at Harvard is even worse debt-wise, but you're more likely to get a job that would ultimately pay it off, so I'd suggest there if you must go to one.
What's your GPA/LSAT combo? If not a splitter, then retake for t14 at less than 100k debt - that would be a justifiable decision. If a splitter, then really make sure you want to be a lawyer. But I just want to emphasize that law school with these options is something you shouldn't consider.