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Cornell (0$) vs. USC (full $)

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 12:01 pm
by Lawstudent95
Should I go to Cornell or USC?
I don't want to leave my boyfriend and I do hope to end up in LA, but Cornell's a much better school overall. Also, I'm very young (19) so I don't know how serious the boyfriend is.
Also I want to end up in big law.

Re: Cornell (0$) vs. USC (full $)

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 12:04 pm
by snagglepuss
Can your parents afford to foot the Cornell bill, or what do you expect your debt to be?
Do you want to start your career in a CA city?

Re: Cornell (0$) vs. USC (full $)

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 12:09 pm
by Clemenceau
How are you possibly facing this decision right now? It's August

Re: Cornell (0$) vs. USC (full $)

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 12:10 pm
by gnomgnomuch
Can you try to negotiate? Cornell isn't worth that kind of debt when you have a full ride at USC. Unless there are some other factors such as your parent's paying for Cornell I'd say USC.

What are your goals - if you are set on on big-law, then neither is a good option, USC doesn't guarantee it by any means, whereas Cornell is too huge a gamble, considering you'll basically have 250+ thousand in loans afterwards, and therefore you HAVE to get it otherwise you're massively screwed. In that case, I'd consider sitting out the cycle and reapplying with a higher LSAT (if that's a possibility).

That's a really strange position to be in... what are your stats and when did you apply?

Re: Cornell (0$) vs. USC (full $)

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 12:12 pm
by Lawstudent95
I had a 171/4.0

My parents would pay for Cornell

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Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 12:13 pm
by urbanist11
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Re: Cornell (0$) vs. USC (full $)

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 12:13 pm
by Lawstudent95
I applied in early March 2015. I'm set on big law, but (this might be because I'm immature) just really don't want to end up alone at 30

Re: Cornell (0$) vs. USC (full $)

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 12:18 pm
by Clemenceau
Lawstudent95 wrote:I applied in early March 2015. I'm set on big law, but (this might be because I'm immature) just really don't want to end up alone at 30
Did you apply to other schools? And how are you still deciding this late in the summer? This thread is confusing.

Reapply this cycle is the only reasonable choice here.

Re: Cornell (0$) vs. USC (full $)

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 12:19 pm
by snagglepuss
You have to reapply. Have your parents pay for Berkeley or Columbia or, hopefully, Stanford.

Re: Cornell (0$) vs. USC (full $)

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 12:19 pm
by KMart
Lawstudent95 wrote:I applied in early March 2015. I'm set on big law, but (this might be because I'm immature) just really don't want to end up alone at 30
You may want to apply August 2015 for the next cycle. You're young anyway and that might hold you back a bit at OCI. Your cycle, chances at big law, and scholarship offers will massively improve. Take a year to travel, relax, do something, or work. Be a 19 year old.

Re: Cornell (0$) vs. USC (full $)

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 12:20 pm
by Lawstudent95
I got in off the wait list at Cornell. So now I need to decide whether to go to Cornell at full price or USC at zero cost

Re: Cornell (0$) vs. USC (full $)

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 12:21 pm
by hairbear7
You're 19? Did you just graduate college? Go experience life first. And reapply with those numbers because you should have much better options.

Re: Cornell (0$) vs. USC (full $)

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 12:22 pm
by Lawstudent95
Why should I reapply? I'm just too young right now? Would that really hurt my career prospects?

Re: Cornell (0$) vs. USC (full $)

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 12:23 pm
by gnomgnomuch
Lawstudent95 wrote:I had a 171/4.0

My parents would pay for Cornell

Yea, don't even bother going this year. Your numbers are great, have your parents pay for Columbia or NYU, with an outside shot at H or S instead of Cornell.

Re: Cornell (0$) vs. USC (full $)

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 12:26 pm
by snagglepuss
Lawstudent95 wrote:Why should I reapply? I'm just too young right now? Would that really hurt my career prospects?
Probably a bit. You could probably do something really cool for the next year, then go into OCI two years from now with more experiences to talk about. But the biggest thing would be that you can get into higher ranked schools that may make more sense geographically (where do you want to work?) and offer you some scholarship money.

Re: Cornell (0$) vs. USC (full $)

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 12:32 pm
by rnoodles
hairbear7 wrote:reapply with those numbers because you should have much better options.
This. Your best offer with a 171/4.0 should not be sticker at Cornell, or settling for SC (full scholly or not).

Re: Cornell (0$) vs. USC (full $)

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 12:36 pm
by Clemenceau
Lawstudent95 wrote:Why should I reapply? I'm just too young right now? Would that really hurt my career prospects?
You should reapply so you can go to a better school for what you want to do.

Are you too young? Well you did apply in March, which was foolish, and therefore suggests you haven't done your homework on this decision.

It seems like you don't know what you're getting yourself into.

Re: Cornell (0$) vs. USC (full $)

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 12:37 pm
by stego
Clemenceau wrote:How are you possibly facing this decision right now? It's August

Re: Cornell (0$) vs. USC (full $)

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 12:38 pm
by KMart
stasg wrote:
Clemenceau wrote:How are you possibly facing this decision right now? It's August
WL offer. OP said it a bit down (after Clemenceau).

Re: Cornell (0$) vs. USC (full $)

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 1:17 pm
by FirmBiz
Lawstudent95 wrote:Should I go to Cornell or USC?
I don't want to leave my boyfriend and I do hope to end up in LA, but Cornell's a much better school overall. Also, I'm very young (19) so I don't know how serious the boyfriend is.
Also I want to end up in big law.
Lol, 200k in debt for love



Take the free money

Re: Cornell (0$) vs. USC (full $)

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 1:21 pm
by KMart
FirmBiz wrote:
Lawstudent95 wrote:Should I go to Cornell or USC?
I don't want to leave my boyfriend and I do hope to end up in LA, but Cornell's a much better school overall. Also, I'm very young (19) so I don't know how serious the boyfriend is.
Also I want to end up in big law.
Lol, 200k in debt for love



Take the free money
I got the understanding the bf was in CA?

Re: Cornell (0$) vs. USC (full $)

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 1:23 pm
by FirmBiz
KMart wrote:
FirmBiz wrote:
Lawstudent95 wrote:Should I go to Cornell or USC?
I don't want to leave my boyfriend and I do hope to end up in LA, but Cornell's a much better school overall. Also, I'm very young (19) so I don't know how serious the boyfriend is.
Also I want to end up in big law.
Lol, 200k in debt for love



Take the free money
I got the understanding the bf was in CA?
Oh, I thought the BF was closer to Cornell

Re: Cornell (0$) vs. USC (full $)

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 1:28 pm
by chuckbass
Lawstudent95 wrote:I applied in early March 2015. I'm set on big law, but (this might be because I'm immature) just really don't want to end up alone at 30
Not choosing to settle at 19 ≠ ending up alone at 30 hth

Re: Cornell (0$) vs. USC (full $)

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 1:30 pm
by rnoodles
FirmBiz wrote:
KMart wrote:
FirmBiz wrote:
Lawstudent95 wrote:Should I go to Cornell or USC?
I don't want to leave my boyfriend and I do hope to end up in LA, but Cornell's a much better school overall. Also, I'm very young (19) so I don't know how serious the boyfriend is.
Also I want to end up in big law.
Lol, 200k in debt for love



Take the free money
I got the understanding the bf was in CA?
Oh, I thought the BF was closer to Cornell
If your bf is 19 or so as well, I would just cut your losses and do what's best for you. It's way too early to think about being alone forever. Seriously, OP. Do what's best for you and your family in the long run.

Also, I have to ask because I think this is important. Are you a Rothman (I think that's what SC calls it) scholar with a full-ride and guaranteed employment at whatever firm they say? If so, I'd go to SC given your goals, the 0 debt, and the guaranteed job. No debt + ending up in LA + staying w/ BF + not having to worry about employment = happy OP and happy parents.

Re: Cornell (0$) vs. USC (full $)

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 1:48 pm
by ndirish2010
If you do either of these with 4.0/171, you're legitimately crazy.