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Sorry for doing this again!
Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 6:24 pm
by DaRascal
Ok I never thought I'd have to make another law school related thread until the week before my first exams so I could ask TLS for studying advice.
Anyway, I do apologize for this, but I've cleaned up my act, so no more trolling on the on topic forums because I can see how that could annoy and mislead people coming here to gather information.
I was all set to attend Seton Hall Law this fall before I got an e-mail from IU Maurer yesterday saying they had more scholarship money available because of people who had withdrawn their applications. They want to reallocate that money to students who had previously withdrawn because they did not receive enough money to sway them into attending before going to the waitlist. I replied expressing interest, and since I had negotiated up to $120k in February, I have to believe that it can now be bumped up to a full ride or at least very close to it.
I'm making this thread in advance because I would like some feedback because I can't imagine I'd have a long turnaround to get back to them once I find out.
Attending IU Maurer would force me to do some scrambling and my mother was really sad when I told her about this and my potentially not going to SH. Additionally, I have never been to Indiana nor do I have any ties out there; I'm from NJ and I'm completely familiar with North Jersey and what kinds of jobs are up here. The commute to SH will be a little bit of a drag and will take an hour and change one way on the train. I have no real preference when it comes to where I'd like to work, but I'm really concerned with the 2014 LST score report for SH:
http://www.lstscorereports.com/compare/ ... l/indiana/
I wouldn't want to work in biglaw anyway, but to see SHU's large firm score dip from 9% to 4% makes me think that everything everyone on here has been saying about Seton Hall since I've been on TLS has been correct and that it really isn't a school where you can bank on getting anything that pays over $45k/year out of school. On the other hand, while IUB has a 16% large firm score, the rest of the employment numbers look suspect for a "T30".
Anyone want to guide me along here? Am I better off just staying in NJ and going to SH? No need for a poll I think haha, just tell me your thoughts.
COA:
Indiana: ~$30k
Seton Hall: ~$21k
Re: Sorry for doing this again!
Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 6:33 pm
by 071816
you're weird
Re: Sorry for doing this again!
Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 6:40 pm
by DaRascal
chimp wrote:you're weird
Wow, so many people have told me that. Is it true or just a coincidence?

Re: Sorry for doing this again!
Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 6:55 pm
by rpupkin
DaRascal's back, baby!
I missed you, bro. Does COA estimate include estimated gained/lost income from gambling?
Re: Sorry for doing this again!
Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 6:58 pm
by DaRascal
rpupkin wrote:DaRascal's back, baby!
I missed you, bro. Does COA estimate include estimated gained/lost income from gambling?
Haha nope. I'm only going to gamble during the summer if I get mediocre grades after 1L, but I'll have a friend manage my credit and bank cards so I don't do anything crazy because I've been known to put myself in some holes.
Re: Sorry for doing this again!
Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 7:23 pm
by pancakes3
DaRascal wrote:I've been known to put myself in some holes.
Or die trying. Or at least get court ordered to stop trying.
Re: Sorry for doing this again!
Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 11:35 pm
by Nebby
Seton Hall if you must.
Re: Sorry for doing this again!
Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 11:39 pm
by rinkrat19
You should be prepping for 1L exams for more than a week.
Re: Sorry for doing this again!
Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 11:53 pm
by yomisterd
i mean, i would lean towards a thomas jefferson full ride because san diego is gorgeous.
Re: Sorry for doing this again!
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 12:00 am
by KMart
I thought you decided on Iowa?
Re: Sorry for doing this again!
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 12:03 am
by smaug
open a gambling school da rascal
it'll be more fun than law school
Re: Sorry for doing this again!
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 12:57 am
by chuckbass
Nebby wrote:Seton Hall if you must.
Re: Sorry for doing this again!
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 9:05 am
by BigZuck
rinkrat19 wrote:You should be prepping for 1L exams for more than a week.
You've gotta wake up
pretty early in the morning to get a joke past ol' rinkrat here
Re: Sorry for doing this again!
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 9:10 am
by OhBoyOhBortles
Jason Taverner wrote:open a gambling school da rascal
it'll be more fun than law school
I'll attend.
Re: Sorry for doing this again!
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 9:11 am
by Mack.Hambleton
Do you just cut and paste different TTTs in your threads
Re: Sorry for doing this again!
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 9:19 am
by pancakes3
OhBoyOhBortles wrote:Jason Taverner wrote:open a gambling school da rascal
it'll be more fun than law school
I'll attend.
Can't commit to a full semester but if there's some sort of 2-week DR fantasy camp, I'm all in.
Re: Sorry for doing this again!
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 9:21 am
by Eastboundndown
DaRascal wrote:rpupkin wrote:DaRascal's back, baby!
I missed you, bro. Does COA estimate include estimated gained/lost income from gambling?
Haha nope. I'm only going to gamble during the summer if I get mediocre grades after 1L, but I'll have a friend manage my credit and bank cards so I don't do anything crazy because I've been known to put myself in some holes.
I like this guy
Re: Sorry for doing this again!
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 9:25 am
by DaRascal
rinkrat19 wrote:You should be prepping for 1L exams for more than a week.
Please tell me you're joking. I want to work hard, but that's a bit excessive.

Re: Sorry for doing this again!
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 9:34 am
by DaRascal
Jason Taverner wrote:open a gambling school da rascal
it'll be more fun than law school
I don't know if you're a mind reader, but I was actually planning on doing this! I'm just worried that I'll have former students who didn't learn the craft properly because they were playing with their galaxy iPhone 4 "tinder" apps during classes and lost all their money on a futures bet for the Cleveland Browns to win the Super Bowl and they'll come back to the school looking to beat me up, which is why I'm going to have to hire good security guards.
Re: Sorry for doing this again!
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 6:33 pm
by NorCalLaw
DaRascal wrote:I'll have a friend manage my credit and bank cards so I don't do anything crazy because I've been known to put myself in some holes.
If you don't have the self-control to manage your own credit cards, I don't think you'll have the self-control required to do well enough in law school to be worth going.
Re: Sorry for doing this again!
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 6:40 pm
by Cicero76
DaRascal wrote:Jason Taverner wrote:open a gambling school da rascal
it'll be more fun than law school
I don't know if you're a mind reader, but I was actually planning on doing this! I'm just worried that I'll have former students who didn't learn the craft properly because they were playing with their galaxy iPhone 4 "tinder" apps during classes and lost all their money on a futures bet for the Cleveland Browns to win the Super Bowl and they'll come back to the school looking to beat me up, which is why I'm going to have to hire good security guards.
Already been done, sorry
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN0HH2SY20140922
Re: Sorry for doing this again!
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 11:48 pm
by DaRascal
Nebby wrote:Seton Hall if you must.
Gonna be hard to pass up that T30 prestige though. I'm not prestigious myself, so I figure I could use it as a disguise for a while.
Re: Sorry for doing this again!
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 12:54 am
by lavarman84
Cicero76 wrote:DaRascal wrote:Jason Taverner wrote:open a gambling school da rascal
it'll be more fun than law school
I don't know if you're a mind reader, but I was actually planning on doing this! I'm just worried that I'll have former students who didn't learn the craft properly because they were playing with their galaxy iPhone 4 "tinder" apps during classes and lost all their money on a futures bet for the Cleveland Browns to win the Super Bowl and they'll come back to the school looking to beat me up, which is why I'm going to have to hire good security guards.
Already been done, sorry
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN0HH2SY20140922
Dude sounds crazy (and based on his history is full of it) but honestly, this place would make a pretty awesome college:
http://www.casino.org/news/wp-content/u ... ainimg.jpg
Re: Sorry for doing this again!
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 3:09 pm
by jingosaur
Seton Hall because you can gamble online in New Jersey. Also, make sure you are okay with making $30k-$40k in some NJ state court because that is by far your most likely employment outcome.
Re: Sorry for doing this again!
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 6:07 pm
by DaRascal
$30-40k? Do you know how hard it is for a single 28 year old law school grad to live on a $35k salary up here?
Leaning toward Indiana, but I need them to get back to me on the updated scholarship info. I am going to miss the online poker scene and the plan to spend summers in AC and Vegas though. Seems at Indiana the average outcome will be 2x better than the average one from SH, even with my not being from the area. Seriously how hard will it be to spend my summers in the Midwest and get a Midwestern girlfriend lol. Ties schmies pies.
Why is Indiana not a good idea? Seems like a really solid school.