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Fordham (sticker) vs Cardozo ($$$$) vs Seton Hall ($$)
Posted: Wed May 06, 2015 3:22 am
by mm1989
I received a 50k/yr scholarship from Cardozo, a 35k/yr scholarship from Seton Hall and would have no scholarship from Fordham. I am interested in studying International Law or Corporate Law and would like to work in NYC.
COA for Cardozo would be 300k - 150k = 150k over three years
COA for Seton Hall would be 270k - 75k = 195k over three years
COA for Fordham would be 300k over three years
From a financial perspective i'm leaning towards the offer from Cardozo or trying to leverage Seton Hall for an increase in scholarship, however the employment statistics at Fordham make me wonder if i'm not thinking long term.
Class of 2014 statistics from LST:
Jobs Data:
Fordham-67.8% in full time/long term legal jobs (74% when you include school funded jobs)-83% overall full time employment
Seton Hall-72.3% in full time/long term legal jobs -90% overall full time employment
Cardozo-56.6% in full time/long term legal jobs (60.7% when you include school funded jobs)-73% overall full time employment
Class of 2013 statistics from LST:
Salary Data (Private Sector)- 25%/50%/75%/Mean
Fordham - 83k/160k/160k/127k
Seton Hall - 65k/100k/145k/104k
Cardozo - (does not disclose full salary data) according to US News 50% = 83k
Re: Fordham (sticker) vs Cardozo ($$$$) vs Seton Hall ($$)
Posted: Wed May 06, 2015 5:03 am
by TheDogWhisperer
none of fhis options are viable unless they come in at less than 75k coa total IMO at most
Re: Fordham (sticker) vs Cardozo ($$$$) vs Seton Hall ($$)
Posted: Wed May 06, 2015 6:45 am
by BrazilBandit
What's your GPA and LSAT? None of these options are good enough...
Re: Fordham (sticker) vs Cardozo ($$$$) vs Seton Hall ($$)
Posted: Wed May 06, 2015 7:32 am
by PeanutsNJam
Your COA calculations are wrong. 300k includes interest over 3 years. Your debt at repayment with 150k scholarship is significantly less than 300k - 150k.
Unless you plan to take out around 40k in loans/year just for living costs.
Private sector salary data is useless without also knowing the % of grads who land jobs in the private sector.
You probably got all the stats based LSAT questions wrong, huh.
Of these 3 choices, Cardozo.
Re: Fordham (sticker) vs Cardozo ($$$$) vs Seton Hall ($$)
Posted: Wed May 06, 2015 7:36 am
by OhBoyOhBortles
BrazilBandit wrote:What's your GPA and LSAT? None of these options are good enough...
Re: Fordham (sticker) vs Cardozo ($$$$) vs Seton Hall ($$)
Posted: Wed May 06, 2015 7:57 am
by dixiecupdrinking
Don't take this personally, but it sounds like you need to do a LOT more research about what your realistic outcomes are here.
You won't do international law from these schools. You won't do "corporate" law either, which is almost exclusively done by big law firms, where these schools don't place well.
Fordham gives you the best shot at these goals but it's not a good one, and that is too much money to borrow.
To be blunt, you have T14 aspirations and T50 (generously) options.
Re: Fordham (sticker) vs Cardozo ($$$$) vs Seton Hall ($$)
Posted: Wed May 06, 2015 8:05 am
by DaRascal
Seton Hall, my g.
Re: Fordham (sticker) vs Cardozo ($$$$) vs Seton Hall ($$)
Posted: Wed May 06, 2015 8:15 am
by Traynor Brah
dixiecupdrinking wrote:Don't take this personally, but it sounds like you need to do a LOT more research about what your realistic outcomes are here.
Don't do this OP. +1 to everything in this thread but DaRascal (who is a noted troll)
Re: Fordham (sticker) vs Cardozo ($$$$) vs Seton Hall ($$)
Posted: Wed May 06, 2015 8:55 am
by Kinky John
Is it just me or does 35 * 3 = 105?
Re: Fordham (sticker) vs Cardozo ($$$$) vs Seton Hall ($$)
Posted: Wed May 06, 2015 10:16 am
by usn26
Run away OP. Three pairs of Bad Idea Jeans here.
Re: Fordham (sticker) vs Cardozo ($$$$) vs Seton Hall ($$)
Posted: Wed May 06, 2015 10:42 am
by TasmanianToucan
You need to be more realistic about your expectations here. Seton Hall does not place well in either big law or NY, and certainly not both. Cardozo's outcomes do not justify three years spent there, never mind any money at all. Fordham at sticker meets the perfect definition of what Paul Campos calls "trap schools." Look it up!
Please understand that no one here is trying to be mean. BSing you with sunshine up the pooper only to have you crash and burn in three years (mixing metaphors like crazy here) would actually be mean.
Re: Fordham (sticker) vs Cardozo ($$$$) vs Seton Hall ($$)
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 8:09 pm
by Baltimore0924
None of these are good options. To be honest, I'd rather go to a lower ranked school and graduate with no debt. At least you have an option to do what you want with your life.
Re: Fordham (sticker) vs Cardozo ($$$$) vs Seton Hall ($$)
Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 2:48 pm
by Mr.Scoops
Don't go
Re: Fordham (sticker) vs Cardozo ($$$$) vs Seton Hall ($$)
Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 2:55 pm
by Kinky John
Mr.Scoops wrote:Don't go
Why are you necroing all these month old choosing threads
Re: Fordham (sticker) vs Cardozo ($$$$) vs Seton Hall ($$)
Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 4:27 pm
by FirmBiz
mm1989 wrote:I received a 50k/yr scholarship from Cardozo, a 35k/yr scholarship from Seton Hall and would have no scholarship from Fordham. I am interested in studying International Law or Corporate Law and would like to work in NYC.
COA for Cardozo would be 300k - 150k = 150k over three years
COA for Seton Hall would be 270k - 75k = 195k over three years
COA for Fordham would be 300k over three years
From a financial perspective i'm leaning towards the offer from Cardozo or trying to leverage Seton Hall for an increase in scholarship, however the employment statistics at Fordham make me wonder if i'm not thinking long term.
Class of 2014 statistics from LST:
Jobs Data:
Fordham-67.8% in full time/long term legal jobs (74% when you include school funded jobs)-83% overall full time employment
Seton Hall-72.3% in full time/long term legal jobs -90% overall full time employment
Cardozo-56.6% in full time/long term legal jobs (60.7% when you include school funded jobs)-73% overall full time employment
Class of 2013 statistics from LST:
Salary Data (Private Sector)- 25%/50%/75%/Mean
Fordham - 83k/160k/160k/127k
Seton Hall - 65k/100k/145k/104k
Cardozo - (does not disclose full salary data) according to US News 50% = 83k
Doze if ur also getting financial aid money